IFX Indonesian Fighter Experiment (KF21/IFX program)
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SiliconBit (silicon0000)
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When you are able to develop and flying 5th Gen minus aircraft than I don't think internal weapon bay is big task (in comparision) and shouldn't take long time. Unless you are not allowed to do so.
Indos
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The weapon bay is already there, I mean only the space as it is already design with weapon bay. The team lately think that they prefer using it to store electronic device to control wingman stealth drones with weapon bay.
The team wants to develop the plane gradually, starting with AA attack capable first (block 1), then multirole by adding ground attack capability (block 2), then block 3 with full stealth capabilities.
These is upgradable as well as the plane is also made by modul system, the belly where the Weapon Bay is located is made from separate modul airframe structure.
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Indos
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The F-16 fighter jet was stunned by the ability of the F-22 Raptor to turn 180 degrees in the air in less than three seconds: The aircraft is also difficult to detect at close range.
Indonesian Air Force
AIRSPACE REVIEW – Valuable experience was gained by the Indonesian Air Force F-16 aviators while training with the US Air Force's (USAF) F-22 Raptor stealth fighter jet at Exercise Pitch Black 2024 at RAAF Base Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia.
The exercise was held on the fourth day of the Air Maneuver Exercise (AMX) on July 18.
In the exercise, two F-16 Fighting Falcons of the Indonesian Air Force carried out air combat maneuvers with two USAF F-22 Raptors.
Previously, in the morning training session, four TNI F-16s conducted air combat exercises with Gripen fighter jets belonging to the Royal Thailand Air Force (RTAF).
The training does not only focus on mastering flying techniques, but also includes Dissimilar Air Combat Training (DACT) and Dissimilar Air Combat Manuever (DACM), wrote the Indonesian Air Force in its release.
After carrying out the training, Pnb Captain Hangga "Rocket" praised the maneuverability of the F-22 Raptor in low speed combat conditions and the implementation of the Super High Angle of Attack maneuver.
With this maneuver, he said, the F-22 was able to turn around 180 degrees in less than three seconds.
Meanwhile, Captain Pnb Didik "Frigate" revealed that the stealth capabilities of the F-22 Raptor were very good, it was proven that the fifth generation fighter aircraft was not detected by the F-16 sensors up to a fairly short distance.
According to him, this is a valuable opportunity for Indonesian Air Force pilots to gain experience and learning in the future.
As the final part of the Force Integration Training (FIT) phase, this exercise will enter the Large Force Employment(LFE) phase.
The entire delegation will be divided into Blue Team and Red Team to carry out more complex training missions in the second and third weeks of this multinational air combat exercise. (RNS)
Penerbang F-16 TNI AU dibuat tercengang oleh kemampuan F-22 Raptor berbalik 180 derajat di udara kurang dari tiga detik: Pesawat juga sulit terdeteksi hingga jarak jarak dekat
AIRSPACE REVIEW - Pengalaman berharga didapatkan oleh para penerbang F-16 TNI Angkatan Udara saat berlatih dengan jet tempur siluman F-22
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Indos
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The F-16 fighter jet was stunned by the ability of the F-22 Raptor to turn 180 degrees in the air in less than three seconds: The aircraft is also difficult to detect at close range.
Indonesian Air Force
AIRSPACE REVIEW – Valuable experience was gained by the Indonesian Air Force F-16 aviators while training with the US Air Force's (USAF) F-22 Raptor stealth fighter jet at Exercise Pitch Black 2024 at RAAF Base Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia.
The exercise was held on the fourth day of the Air Maneuver Exercise (AMX) on July 18.
In the exercise, two F-16 Fighting Falcons of the Indonesian Air Force carried out air combat maneuvers with two USAF F-22 Raptors.
Previously, in the morning training session, four TNI F-16s conducted air combat exercises with Gripen fighter jets belonging to the Royal Thailand Air Force (RTAF).
The training does not only focus on mastering flying techniques, but also includes Dissimilar Air Combat Training (DACT) and Dissimilar Air Combat Manuever (DACM), wrote the Indonesian Air Force in its release.
After carrying out the training, Pnb Captain Hangga "Rocket" praised the maneuverability of the F-22 Raptor in low speed combat conditions and the implementation of the Super High Angle of Attack maneuver.
With this maneuver, he said, the F-22 was able to turn around 180 degrees in less than three seconds.
Meanwhile, Captain Pnb Didik "Frigate" revealed that the stealth capabilities of the F-22 Raptor were very good, it was proven that the fifth generation fighter aircraft was not detected by the F-16 sensors up to a fairly short distance.
According to him, this is a valuable opportunity for Indonesian Air Force pilots to gain experience and learning in the future.
As the final part of the Force Integration Training (FIT) phase, this exercise will enter the Large Force Employment(LFE) phase.
The entire delegation will be divided into Blue Team and Red Team to carry out more complex training missions in the second and third weeks of this multinational air combat exercise. (RNS)
Penerbang F-16 TNI AU dibuat tercengang oleh kemampuan F-22 Raptor berbalik 180 derajat di udara kurang dari tiga detik: Pesawat juga sulit terdeteksi hingga jarak jarak dekat
AIRSPACE REVIEW - Pengalaman berharga didapatkan oleh para penerbang F-16 TNI Angkatan Udara saat berlatih dengan jet tempur siluman F-22
Indonesian Air Force F-16s arrived at RAAF Base Darwin to take part at Exercise Pitch Black 2024.
United States Airforce F-22 Raptor Landing & Take Off | Bali Airport | Plane Spotting
SiliconBit (silicon0000)
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Dear, I completely agree with you and your assessment. Infact I am saying the same thing. The majority of the project is already complete and there is little left to do, and the remaining tasks can be accomplished within a reasonable timeframe, such as a year. I have no doubt in development team's ability to deliver in short timeline. However, I'm wondering why they're dividing the work into multiple blocks (1, 2 & 3) when it could be combined into fewer blocks. Couldn't they be combined to expedite the process?
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Though I am not convinced, let it be.
Indos
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Prabowo administration promises to continue former Presidents programs who support Prabowo. KFX/IFX program initiated by SBY Presidency and SBY and his son supported Prabowo before Presidential Election. SBY party is Democrat. SBY and his party was in opposition seat during Jokowi administration.
It is his brother, Hashim, who is also Gerindra party high rank leader, said it recently
AHY, Demokrat Party leader, and also SBY son is inside Prabowo administration, serving as Coordinator Minister for Infrastructure program. He is former Military personnel (Kostrad).
Politically, KFX/IFX program has strong supporter inside Prabowo administration, unlike during Jokowi administration where Demokrat is outside the government
It is his brother, Hashim, who is also Gerindra party high rank leader, said it recently
AHY, Demokrat Party leader, and also SBY son is inside Prabowo administration, serving as Coordinator Minister for Infrastructure program. He is former Military personnel (Kostrad).
Politically, KFX/IFX program has strong supporter inside Prabowo administration, unlike during Jokowi administration where Demokrat is outside the government
Indos
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I still remember when I read newspaper in 2009 and it said Korean delegation comes to Indonesia to ask Indonesian President at that time, SBY, to participate in join development of new Stealth fighter. Not long after that, SBY agree on it. MOU, Contract, and then join development program is set in South Korea where Indonesia send its engineers and Air Force personnel there.
Korean Parliament oppose the program if there is no trusted partner on the program, this is why KAI CEO said that without Indonesia, KFX/IFX program, could have been stalled.
Then in 2013 the program is halted by Korean parliament, SBY is still patience. If there is no Indonesia, unlikely there is double engine KF21 and double seat KF21 that can control wingman drone
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Before the start of mass production of the KF-21, KAI was plagued by allegations of leaking secrets from researchers in Indonesia, the country that co-developed the KF-21.
"I should have managed those researchers better, but I apologize to the government and the people for the gaps. First of all, we checked at our level and there were no major problems. It was a collection of information that we provided at meetings and other meetings. The investigation is ongoing, so it is impossible to say what the outcome will be. However, as Indonesia is an important strategic partner for us, it is a burden for it to turn into a diplomatic issue. Indonesia purchased the KT-1 in 2001 and was the first exporter of the Korean aircraft. Later, the T-50 was also purchased. The development of the KF-21 could have been stalled if Indonesia had not participated. Indonesia has made a significant contribution to the development of Korea's aerospace industry. If Indonesia buys South Korean weapons, the impact will affect the entire Southeast Asian country. I hope that we can take these things into consideration and come to a victorious conclusion."
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Current Defense Minister, Syafrie Syamsoedin, also handle KFX/IFX program under SBY administration. He knows the program since the start.
Syafrie Samsoedin, white dress.
Korean Parliament oppose the program if there is no trusted partner on the program, this is why KAI CEO said that without Indonesia, KFX/IFX program, could have been stalled.
Then in 2013 the program is halted by Korean parliament, SBY is still patience. If there is no Indonesia, unlikely there is double engine KF21 and double seat KF21 that can control wingman drone
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Before the start of mass production of the KF-21, KAI was plagued by allegations of leaking secrets from researchers in Indonesia, the country that co-developed the KF-21.
"I should have managed those researchers better, but I apologize to the government and the people for the gaps. First of all, we checked at our level and there were no major problems. It was a collection of information that we provided at meetings and other meetings. The investigation is ongoing, so it is impossible to say what the outcome will be. However, as Indonesia is an important strategic partner for us, it is a burden for it to turn into a diplomatic issue. Indonesia purchased the KT-1 in 2001 and was the first exporter of the Korean aircraft. Later, the T-50 was also purchased. The development of the KF-21 could have been stalled if Indonesia had not participated. Indonesia has made a significant contribution to the development of Korea's aerospace industry. If Indonesia buys South Korean weapons, the impact will affect the entire Southeast Asian country. I hope that we can take these things into consideration and come to a victorious conclusion."
“KF-21은 AI기술 등 집약… 동남아 넘어 유럽도 관심”
“KF-21을 4.5세대 전투기라고 하는데, 과소평가라고 생각합니다. 4.5세대 프랑스 라팔, 유럽 유로파이터 타이푼 등과 비교하면 성능이 뛰어나거든요. 그래서 저는 5세대(완전한 스텔스 기능을 갖춘 전투기)에 가까운 4.9세대 전투기라고 부릅니다. 게다가 가격까지 …
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Current Defense Minister, Syafrie Syamsoedin, also handle KFX/IFX program under SBY administration. He knows the program since the start.
Syafrie Samsoedin, white dress.
Indos
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Alhamdulillah
[Video] Domestically-made fighter KF-21 achieves 1,000 test flights
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[Video] Domestically-made fighter KF-21 achieves 1,000 test flights
[영상] 국산 전투기 KF-21, 시험비행 1천회 달성 | 연합뉴스
(서울=연합뉴스) 국산 초음속 전투기 KF-21 '보라매'가 1천회 비행을 달성했습니다.
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