Imran Khan 3 years in solitary confinement

[Watandar]

Look, your circle is so small it’s basically a tight echo chamber, and that’s why your thinking feels boxed in. What I said isn’t just my personal take, majority of Pakhtoons in the Pakistani army feel the same way. They don’t see innocent Afghan civilians as enemies; only the ones actually involved in terrorism.

honestly, after reading you respose, it really does come off as contradictory. Pakistan names its missiles after legendary Afghan rulers, yet somehow there’s hostility toward everyday Afghans. That’s a pretty strange mix.

In my opinion, a more thoughtful response would have been to acknowledge that regions up to Kabul share deep historical ties with Pakistan, and that if any Afghan province ever chose to join Pakistan willingly, we would welcome them.

If you still didn’t understand, let me know. I will give you lots historical and current examples.

I have many friends from Bangladesh and funny enough, they love Imran Khan. They always ask me about him.

Bengalis are united even though, they have different accents and dialects. Why we failed to United? Because our establishment wanted to keep us divided.

Good point. Ethnic , sectarian and class lines are deliberately stroked by the Establishment in Pakistan to keep the people divided. The highway from not only Peshawar but Lahore too has been blocked by Establishment goons to foil the PTI march. Now why would they block access from Lahore if PTI is just a party of KP ?

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Good point. Ethnic , sectarian and class lines are deliberately stroked by the Establishment in Pakistan to keep the people divided. The highway from not only Peshawar but Lahore too has been blocked by Establishment goons to foil the PTI march. Now why would they block access from Lahore if PTI is just a party of KP ?

Irony is that our establishment still acts like no one is watching. They behave as if the world is blind, as if they can say one thing to your face and do the exact opposite behind your back, and you’re supposed to pretend you didn’t notice. They think silence from abroad means approval or worse, ignorance.

But just because no other country is openly confronting our establishment doesn’t mean they aren’t discussing Pakistan’s situation. Power doesn’t get a free pass; it just gets talked about quietly. The Chinese are talking. Bangladeshis are talking. I’m sure others are too, governments, analysts, ordinary people because Pakistan’s crisis isn’t happening in a vacuum.

Meanwhile, they’ve turned the country into a mockery of itself. What should have been a functioning democracy feels more like a modern-day plantation, where the powerful act like landlords feeding off the very people they claim to represent. It’s a system that drains you slowly, politely, like a vampire that smiles while it takes your blood.

Some days it feels like we’re living inside a glitching Matrix, stuck in a loop where truth is edited, justice is delayed, and the same cycle repeats no matter how loudly people demand change. And the saddest part? They genuinely believe they can keep doing this forever that no one is watching, no one is talking, and no one will ever call them out.

All this topi drama about creating more provinces won’t fix anything. It’s a distraction, a cosmetic change. Without deep structural reforms, nothing meaningful will happen and everyone knows those reforms would threaten the very power structure that benefits from the status quo. That’s why they avoid them. It would be political suicide for the people who currently hold all the cards.

And this isn’t a hate speech, it’s the lived reality for everyday Pakistanis. The evidence is already out there, visible in institutions, governance, and public experience. Some people may try to rewrite or sanitize the history, but that doesn’t erase what people have seen and felt.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Irony is that our establishment still acts like no one is watching. They behave as if the world is blind, as if they can say one thing to your face and do the exact opposite behind your back, and you’re supposed to pretend you didn’t notice. They think silence from abroad means approval or worse, ignorance.

But just because no other country is openly confronting our establishment doesn’t mean they aren’t discussing Pakistan’s situation. Power doesn’t get a free pass; it just gets talked about quietly. The Chinese are talking. Bangladeshis are talking. I’m sure others are too, governments, analysts, ordinary people because Pakistan’s crisis isn’t happening in a vacuum.

Meanwhile, they’ve turned the country into a mockery of itself. What should have been a functioning democracy feels more like a modern-day plantation, where the powerful act like landlords feeding off the very people they claim to represent. It’s a system that drains you slowly, politely, like a vampire that smiles while it takes your blood.

Some days it feels like we’re living inside a glitching Matrix, stuck in a loop where truth is edited, justice is delayed, and the same cycle repeats no matter how loudly people demand change. And the saddest part? They genuinely believe they can keep doing this forever that no one is watching, no one is talking, and no one will ever call them out.

And all this topi drama about more provinces will not buy anything unless they implement deep structural reforms which they will never do. It will be death to their power.

Majority of Pakistanis are brain dead buddy. They can barely read and write. They don't know what to do with a vote.

It cannot be managed like a civilized Scandinavian country. A "functioning democracy" is a byproduct of enlightenment.

There are many steps a society needs to take in its sociological development before it can make informed decisions on how to govern itself.

Lets look at Punjab. In the 90s Punjab was a lawless and corrupt mess of a province just like the rest of the country and that reflected in its leadership who were incompetent with criminal neglect of its people. As Punjabi society has evolved so has its expectations and leadership. This is evolution. The rest of Pakistan has stayed the same, some regions have worsened.

First we need to establish a baseline, a working system, 80%+ literacy rate, before thinking about the virtues of democracy.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Majority of Pakistanis are brain dead buddy. They can barely read and write. They don't know what to do with a vote.

It cannot be managed like a civilized Scandinavian country. A "functioning democracy" is a byproduct of enlightenment.

There are many steps a society needs to take in its sociological development before it can make informed decisions on how to govern itself.

Lets look at Punjab. In the 90s Punjab was a lawless and corrupt mess of a province just like the rest of the country and that reflected in its leadership who were incompetent with criminal neglect of its people. As Punjabi society has evolved so has its expectations and leadership. This is evolution. The rest of Pakistan has stayed the same, some regions have worsened.

First we need to establish a baseline, a working system, 80%+ literacy rate, before thinking about the virtues of democracy.

Conveniently, you ignore all the references in my post.

A government’s core obligations… education, healthcare, justice, economic stability, and public welfare, do not disappear just because the population struggles with literacy. If anything, literacy levels are a direct reflection of how well the government has fulfilled its responsibilities. Current results are not because people are illiterate, it’s because of feudal mindset and incompetence.

After the French Revolution, most peasants were illiterate. Yet the new government didn’t say:
“People can’t read, so we don’t need to govern.”
Instead, they:

• Built public schools
• Standardized laws
• Expanded civic rights

Illiteracy was treated as a challenge to solve, not a reason to avoid governing.

I have already challenged entire establishment and government with their might and resources with 1000+ economists, they can’t build a better system than 34 EZ model. Because it’s build for public and not for elites.

 

[Distant_Observer]

After the French Revolution, most peasants were illiterate. Yet the new government didn’t say:
“People can’t read, so we don’t need to govern.”
Instead, they:

• Built public schools
• Standardized laws
• Expanded civic rights

They colonized half of the planet. All this is easy to do when there are resources and capital. They extracted trillions of dollars over centuries.

Its easy to bring prosperity to your people when the global financial and political order has been carefully crafted to keep the money flowing in.

Pakistan should have already conquered Afghanistan, the other stans and parts of Iran, have a UN veto and then it would be a fair comparison.

This is a straw mans argument.

Give me an example of a "functioning democracy" that delivers for its people in the global south?

Lets look at China. How did it achieve progress without democracy?

Pakistanis move to the west, become in awe of its progress and think it just happens because people have a vote. Give me a break.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

They colonized half of the planet. All this is easy to do when there are resources and capital. They extracted trillions of dollars over centuries.

Its easy to bring prosperity to your people when the global financial and political order has been carefully crafted to keep the money flowing in.

Pakistan should have already conquered Afghanistan, the other stans and parts of Iran, have a UN veto and then it would be a fair comparison.

This is a straw mans argument.

Give me an example of a "functioning democracy" that delivers for its people in the global south?

Lets look at China. How did it achieve progress without democracy?

Pakistanis move to the west, become in awe of its progress and think it just happens because people have a vote. Give me a break.

I think you're giving colonialism too much credit as an explanation for everything we see today. There's no denying colonial powers extracted wealth and left lasting damage, but that alone doesn't explain where countries end up decades later. If it did, every former colony would still be poor and every former colonizer would still be thriving. That's clearly not the case.

Look at countries like South Korea, Singapore, Botswana, or Mauritius. None of them started from a position of overwhelming advantage, yet they managed to dramatically improve living standards through better governance, investment in education, strong institutions, and sensible economic policies.

The same logic applies to resources. Plenty of countries are rich in oil, gas, minerals, or valuable land and still struggle economically. Meanwhile, some countries with very few natural resources have become highly developed. History and resources matter, but they're not the whole story.

The comparison about Pakistan needing to conquer its neighbors misses the point. Nobody is arguing that prosperity comes from building an empire. The real question is whether countries with stronger institutions, functioning courts, better protection of property rights, and more accountable governments tend to perform better over time. In many cases, they do.

And when it comes to the Global South, there are democratic countries that have made tangible progress. Botswana is often cited as one of Africa's best-governed states. Mauritius has consistently performed well on development and governance measures. India still has major challenges, but it has grown into one of the world's largest economies while remaining a democracy. Democracy obviously isn't a magic solution, but it's not true that it has never delivered results outside the West.

As for China, I don't think its success proves democracy is irrelevant. What China shows is that a capable state can drive rapid development under certain conditions. But that's one example. For every successful authoritarian state, there are many others that are poor, corrupt, unstable, or stuck in stagnation. The lesson isn't that authoritarianism is better. The lesson is that competent institutions and effective governance matter.

When Pakistanis admire Western countries, they're usually not just looking at elections. They're looking at things like reliable public services, functioning courts, cleaner cities, less corruption, stronger local government, better infrastructure, and systems that generally work. Voting by itself doesn't create prosperity, but governments that can be held accountable tend to make it harder for bad policies and poor leadership to persist indefinitely.

History matters. Colonialism matters. But at some point, the quality of institutions, governance, and policy choices matters too. Otherwise, it's impossible to explain why countries with similar colonial histories have ended up with such different outcomes.

What I don't understand that someone people don't acknowledged that there is a problem, and some do acknowledge but can't provide the solution. I have not only pointed where the problems are, and I have also given clear solutions to it.

In my opinion, by naming his party Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), or "Pakistan Movement for Justice," Imran Khan underscored the central role of justice in a nation's success. He may now realize more than ever that if the justice system is compromised, the country's future is at risk. No nation can survive or prosper without a strong, independent, and credible system of justice.

Here is the list of institutions Pakistan need to fix.

1. Judiciary and Rule of Law

• Faster and more impartial courts
• Equal application of laws
• Better protection of contracts and property rights
• Greater public trust
• Under 34 EZ model, each will get a high court and faster results.

2. Civil Service and Bureaucracy

• Merit-based hiring and promotions
• Reduced red tape and corruption
• Better policy implementation
• Under 34 EZ model, using blockchain, ai and automation, with one window operation to reduce governmental overhead and saving 9 to 20 billion dollars per year.

3. Tax Administration

• Broader tax base
• Better tax collection
• Reduced dependence on borrowing
• Under 34 EZ model, everyone must file taxes including farmers and Arm forces personals, no free pass.

4. Police and Law Enforcement

• Professionalization
• Accountability
• Improved public safety
• Under 34 EZ model, every Zone will get specialized police, speed trapes, body cams, e-tickets. Every incident is recorded in the system.

5. Education System

• Higher literacy and skills
• Better workforce productivity
• Stronger civic culture
• Under 34 EZ model, no ghost schools, no ghost teachers, biometric check-in, government school with 100% monitoring via security cameras. Strong laws to prevent child labor.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

KPK has gone to dogs. Impose governor raj now to save it. PTI is nothing but B team of TTP and PTI KPK supporters are cucks of TTP and Afghan taliban. No option left but to give KPK to level headed people like PPP Kundi and N league Jalal Khan.