Imran Khan Thinks it is Pakistan that is Making Afghanistan its Enemy and not Vice Versa

[Distant_Observer]

Why start in 2001, what did we owe the Afghans

Why not start in 1947 and the decades where Afghanistan repeatedly attacked Pakistan with no response

Pakistans responsibility is Pakistan and it's own interests, not the welfare of the Afghans who never consider Pakistans welfare or interests

It's all about them that's why. Peace is on their terms. Everything is on their terms. Now they want to decide who will be the PM of Pakistan.

Conditional peace is not enduring peace.

It's not Pakistans fault Taliban backed OBL and AQ and their terrorism. They think Pakistan should back them even with this conduct. All on their terms.

 

[SteppeWolff]

And majority of the awam has always been stupid and will remain so in a country like Pakistan where education is non existent.

In that case I'll assume you are stupid too as you are the part of that same awaam.

 

[Snake]

Nope. The massive level resentment is a recent phenomenon. We voted for PTI, mandate got stolen. We protested, firing squads opened fire on our people. We are treated as terrorists or miscreants in Punjab and Sindh. Police stops us, detains us just cause of our ethnicities. Establishment is sowing the seeds of discord and division. You wouldn't understand nor I expect you too. But we don't bow down to anyone. And people from KPK and Balochistan have given tens of thousands of lives, got used as cannon fodder, our militias used to fight TTP and Afghans. And its not about convincing you, me and you are irrelevant in the bigger picture.

The solution to this is only proper development and support for the people in the area. But you can't deny pashtunwali nonsense exists and is rooted in many of the western communities. Development must happen but at the same time the people need to facilitate the development and hand over the ttp, bla bast@rds willingly.

 

[SteppeWolff]

The solution to this is only proper development and support for the people in the area. But you can't deny pashtunwali nonsense exists and is rooted in many of the western communities. Development must happen but at the same time the people need to facilitate the development and hand over the ttp, bla bast@rds willingly.

Good governance, education and development will itself weed out the outdated culture.

 

[SaadH]

Remember

The kanjar Zardari called drone attacks "collateral damage"....

Imagine any other nation whose head of state is as disgusting as that.

Jamedars' "A" team captain for a reason

 

[SaadH]

Why start in 2001, what did we owe the Afghans

Why not start in 1947 and the decades where Afghanistan repeatedly attacked Pakistan with no response

Pakistans responsibility is Pakistan and it's own interests, not the welfare of the Afghans who never consider Pakistans welfare or interests

Because Talibs were Pakistan's proxy and they were "our babies" per our very own esteemed ex -jamedar Gen. Naseerullah Babar and launched by us to do our bidding which they did with gutso in stark contrast to the previous NA/Masood regime who were launching terrorist attacks in Pakistan kidnapping school bases et al.

Yet we betrayed them so that a typically coward beghairat head jamedar can earn legitimacy with his colonial bosses.

 

[alphapak]

It's not Pakistans fault Taliban backed OBL

Who is at fault for keeping OBL in a safe house in Abbottabad?

 

[Distant_Observer]

Who is at fault for keeping OBL in a safe house in Abbottabad?

He was lured in to that compound.

Taliban are extremist terrorists. It was a mistake for Pakistan to engage them in the 80s.

I am sure the Imran Khan types of the time made this happen.

 

[alphapak]

He was lured in to that compound.

He was lured miles into Pakistan, right next to PMA and Gen Kayani was busy
counting dollars with Zardari. lol

 

[alphapak]

It was a mistake for Pakistan to engage them in the 80s.

The Mafia used to call them Mujahideen in those days for dollars until 9/11 when
the mafia done a massive u turn and turned them into terrorists for dollars.

 

[SaadH]

He was lured in to that compound.

Taliban are extremist terrorists. It was a mistake for Pakistan to engage them in the 80s.

I am sure the Imran Khan types of the time made this happen.

Pakistan didn't engage with them in the 80's, get your basic facts straight. Talibs didn't exist in the 80's, only came on the scene in "94.

 

[Snake]

Good governance, education and development will itself weed out the outdated culture.

You're naive if you think the backwards culture won't fight back. The terrorists know they're history once the place is livable they'll fight ruthlessly to preserve their power.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Pakistan didn't engage with them in the 80's, get your basic facts straight. Talibs didn't exist in the 80's, only came on the scene in "94.

They have always existed. It is pashtunwali tribalism.

Just because they call themselves TTP, ISIS-K, Haqqani or whatever doesn't mean a damn thing. They are all Taliban.

People like IK should never be allowed near power. Fauj should comb through their ranks and find any Taliban sympathizers, probably none. Next step is to kill off PTI and do a software update on KPK.

You're naive if you think the backwards culture won't fight back. The terrorists know they're history once the place is livable they'll fight back ruthlessly to preserve their power.

They kill polio workers and attack schools.

 

[r3alist]

Good governance, education and development will itself weed out the outdated culture.

The culture at it's most puritanical has it's own education and governance, with no accomodation of anything else

Several empires have tried and this current version of the Taliban has gotten more savvy to only become even more regressive than Taliban 1.0

Everyone should really pause and consider the struggles and bloodshed they have been willing to go through, for centuries, just to remain within their cultural norms

 

[SteppeWolff]

You're naive if you think the backwards culture won't fight back. The terrorists know they're history once the place is livable they'll fight ruthlessly to preserve their power.

A nuclear armed state having one of the biggest standing armies on planet is scared of some tribals fighting back? Sounds like an excuse to me.

And the one you are calling naive is from Balochistan. State has kept people in 15th century and now complains why people have the 15th century mindset.