India and China reach agreement on border patrolling along LAC

[Joe Shearer]

Pin this.

Based on this, a very large number of very hateful posts would need to be cleared up on this forum.

If members report such posts, we will take care of them.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Your interpretation is wrong. The Chinese government usually does not publicize specific details of interim agreements or non-major agreements in its official documents. This is a consistent practice. Only in the case of formal agreements of particular significance does the Chinese government publicize the content of the agreement in its entirety. This border settlement between China and India does not fall within the scope of agreements that need to be fully publicized.

Your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Unless you are the official spokesperson of the Chinese government, your statement,

This border settlement between China and India does not fall within the scope of agreements that need to be fully publicized.

is an interesting opinion, but only an opinion.

 

[vasanthm]

Your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Unless you are the official spokesperson of the Chinese government, your statement,

is an interesting opinion, but only an opinion.

PDF'ers will still spin this as how India lost the negotiations and cowered wth fear due to China military deployment

 

[AjayGhatak]

Has there been any confirmation from any Chinese media? Or is it just Indian media?

 

[hembo]

Has there been any confirmation from any Chinese media? Or is it just Indian media?

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Oct 22, 2024

China, India have reached resolutions on border-related issues: Chinese FM
By Global Times
Published: Oct 22, 2024 05:47 PM

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Lin Jian Photo: VCG

In response to questions about the reported agreement between China and India on border patrols in disputed areas, the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Lin Jian confirmed the progress during a regular press conference on Tuesday.

Lin said that China and India have maintained close communication through diplomatic and military channels on border-related issues. Currently, the...

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[AjayGhatak]

Generally the side that's loud and giving out more details would have gained more than the side that's keeping things under wrap

No. The one who is loud typically is the one who wants to hide some of its weakness or gain attention. India has very good reasons to do that. Domestic and international. China on the other hand does not want to be bound by any thing even if they might have agreed.

I do not know if the formal deal has been signed. If it is not then you may find different details on it. And then China will humiliate Jayshankar by saying that Jayshankar did not understood negotiation well enough.

Given this is typical Indian ministry and its media partners, I have massive doubts in varacity of their claims.

The devil as they say, always lies in details.

 

[Han Patriot]

The actual control line of the China India border may have returned to a state of mutual balance. To be practical, before 2020, the Indian military had been encroaching on one side of China's actual control line, and has not stopped making small moves since the 1990s. After the outbreak of the Galwan Valley conflict in 2020, we cleared them out of the valley, and Modi said that the Chinese military did not enter Indian territory. I think this means that the Galwan Valley did not enter India's actual control line, and now including several other disputed patrol areas between China and India, they are also intertwined. Overall, through the conflict since 2020, China has reversed India's offensive trend of encroaching on China's actual control line side of the border. It is estimated that both sides have returned to a state of balance

Generally the side that's loud and giving out more details would have gained more than the side that's keeping things under wrap

Judging from the desperation from the India side, I would say otherwise. Remember India was pretty loud and Modi said not an inch lost? Hhahhaha

 

[Han Patriot]

No. The one who is loud typically is the one who wants to hide some of its weakness or gain attention. India has very good reasons to do that. Domestic and international. China on the other hand does not want to be bound by any thing even if they might have agreed.

I do not know if the formal deal has been signed. If it is not then you may find different details on it. And then China will humiliate Jayshankar by saying that Jayshankar did not understood negotiation well enough.

Given this is typical Indian ministry and its media partners, I have massive doubts in varacity of their claims.

The devil as they say, always lies in details.

Chinese officials are very careful not to talk carelessly, and each sentence is vetted very carefully not out of the rear hot air. From his statement, it seems some sort of understanding was reached, but no agreement signed.

 

[vasanthm]

Chinese officials are very careful not to talk carelessly, and each sentence is vetted very carefully not out of the rear hot air. From his statement, it seems some sort of understanding was reached, but no agreement signed.

Shouldn't the all powerful Chinese army just bulldozed it's way rather than come to a settlement

 

[Michael]

Your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Unless you are the official spokesperson of the Chinese government, your statement,

is an interesting opinion, but only an opinion.

The official term used by the spokesperson of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is “解决方案”. I think you should know the Chinese meaning of that term, This is not a formal agreement. So, the Chinese Government responded only at a press conference at the Foreign Ministry, when asked by a Reuters reporter. This is not a news release initiated by the Chinese government.

IMO. Based on the current international environment, there is no possibility of complete reconciliation on the Sino-Indian border issue. The Sino-Indian border issue will continue for at least the next 10-20 years. It is just that, at certain specific times, both sides will moderately choose to reduce or elevate the impact of this issue. But a formal border agreement is by no means possible.

 

[Han Patriot]

Shouldn't the all powerful Chinese army just bulldozed it's way rather than come to a settlement

I believe a better settlement would be a neutral zone where none go in. Then both will save face. Why should we just go all in, all had been peaceful for decades until India tried to be funny.

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

Chinese officials are very careful not to talk carelessly, and each sentence is vetted very carefully not out of the rear hot air. From his statement, it seems some sort of understanding was reached, but no agreement signed.

China has realised its limitations vis a vis India

PLA has seen our deployments and estimated its losses in case of War

There is no sense in fighting a Peer Adversary in that Terrible Terrain

PLA doesn't want to spend a FIFTH winter in that Terrain

 

[vasanthm]

I believe a better settlement would be a neutral zone where none go in. Then both will save face. Why should we just go all in, all had been peaceful for decades until India tried to be funny.

So shouldn't China be teaching India a lesson in that case?

 

[vasanthm]

What do Indians want to say?
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Shouldn't it be something bigger, like taking territory instead of sticks and skirmishes

 

[Joe Shearer]

What do Indians want to say?
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Nothing at all.

We lost. Until we acknowledge it, we will never understand what mistakes we made, and we will never be able to correct them.

Any more immature fan-boy questions?