India Economy Thread


So an upgrade from past verdict.. Ty Dolund Trumpf!

Man why are you arguing with these guys. They neither understand economics nor they can apply it in their lives. They just post links after a quick Google search, you're wasting your time.

As for the economy all we need to do is grow at 7.5% we will double our GDP every ten years. 15 years from now we will get to $10k T.


This feels like a cruel time to start exposing a fake Indian GDP calculation.

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Ah this is what happens when you don't read what's under there. The GDP numbers are not fake, the IMF wants India to rebase the year from 2012-13 and include more sectors in the calculation. So they gave a C rating to GDP calculation. India is a large economy so 15-20% undocumented economy should eventually come to white. Another issue was not using double deflation indicator for inflation data. But all these will be solved next year when we rebase our year to 2026.

This is what happens when you listen into leftist crap like Wire they listen to their own and those desperate for a negative news give a few clicks.

10 bucks says when we rebase It Next year they are going to come back with the same argument but this time GDP growth was due to rebasement lol!
 
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I can suggest a few more channels to raise your happiness index !!
 
India is experiencing an abnormally low inflation rate. In September it was below 2%, now it is even below 1%. While tax rate cuts are partly to blame, a major cause is also the low household spending pushing the retail prices to go down. In previous forum, I also showed how India's consumption rate of essential household appliances like refrigerators, air-conditions, laptops are lower than that of Bangladesh despite the latter going through an economic crisis.


The report below also explains how India's middle class remains stagnant while wealth is getting more concentrated among the ultra rich.


Amid low consumption, the savings are also falling dramatically, mainly due to debt servicing. Also points towards stagnant or declining wages.


Indian Rupee has become the worst performing currency this year with highest depreciation, because of sharply falling FDI.


So what's fueling the GDP growth? The only explanation could be high government spending - superfluous infrastructure projects like metro rails in tier 3 cities or distributing freebies to BJP-ruled constituencies. This is obviously funded by rising government debt.

Honest thoughts?
 
@Species

Sure, lets discuss numbers.

How many cars does BD sell in a year? And IND?
How many two wheelers does BD sell in a year? And IND?
How many mobile phones does BD sell in a year? And IND?
How much power does BD consume in a year? And IND?
How much tax does BD collect in a year? And IND?

Regards

@Nilgiri @Vkdindian1 @vasanthm @CallSignMaverick
 
After IMF, our old friend Professor Riazul Haq sb has also entered the fray. He says based on Prof LongBeard's analysis that IND's GDP is half of what is stated.


The Indian government reported faster-than-expected GDP growth of 8.2% for the September quarter. It came as a surprise to many economists who were expecting a slowdown based on the recent high-frequency indicators such as consumer goods sales and durable goods production, as well as two-wheeler sales. At the same time, The International Monetary Fund expressed doubts about the Indian government's GDP data.

The IMF has recently expressed doubts about Prime Minister Narendra Modi's BJP government's GDP data. It has particularly questioned the government's statistical methodologies, inflation measurement, and the estimates of the informal economy used in reporting the country's gross domestic product. Professor Arun Kumar of Jawaharlal Nehru University believes the IMF's concerns are valid. He thinks the real size of India's economy is only half of what is officially claimed. “The economy is almost 50% wrong – when the government says it’s $3.8 trillion, my estimate is it is probably still $2.5 trillion because we are overestimating the unorganized sector, which is actually declining. This is building up over a period of time,” Kumar told Indian journalist Karan Thapar.

In its recent assessment, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) has given a "C" grade to India's national accounts. In particular, the IMF has raised the issue of the government using 2011-12 as the base year as being outdated, the discrepancy between production and consumption data and the use of Wholesale Price Index, and not a Producer Price Index, to deflate many economic activities to derive real GDP from nominal GDP.

The source of the biggest error is the way India estimates the informal economy which, including agriculture, accounts for almost 45% of GDP. To do so, India uses the formal sector as a proxy to estimate the performance of the informal sector. But if the two sectors are moving in opposite directions, as has happened after demonetization, GST imposition and the pandemic, you could end up overestimating the unorganized sector.

Indian-American economist Ashoka Mody, author of "India is Broken", has argued that the current unemployment crisis in India is a direct result of the destruction of the informal sector, particularly the mom and pop stores that employed a large number of Indians.

Questions about the veracity of India's official GDP figures are not new. These have been raised by many top economists. For example, French economist Thomas Piketty argues in his best seller "Capital in the Twenty-First Century that the GDP growth rates of India and China are exaggerated. Picketty writes as follows:

"Note, too, that the very high official growth figures for developing countries (especially India and China) over the past few decades are based almost exclusively on production statistics. If one tries to measure income growth by using household survey data, it is often quite difficult to identify the reported rates of macroeconomic growth: Indian and Chinese incomes are certainly increasing rapidly, but not as rapidly as one would infer from official growth statistics. This paradox-sometimes referred to as the "black hole" of growth-is obviously problematic. It may be due to the overestimation of the growth of output (there are many bureaucratic incentives for doing so), or perhaps the underestimation of income growth (households have their own flaws)), or most likely both. In particular, the missing income may be explained by the possibility that a disproportionate share of the growth in output has gone to the most highly remunerated individuals, whose incomes are not always captured in the tax data." "In the case of India, it is possible to estimate (using tax return data) that the increase in the upper centile's share of national income explains between one-quarter and one-third of the "black hole" of growth between 1990 and 2000. "


Regards
 
@Species

Sure, lets discuss numbers.

How many cars does BD sell in a year? And IND?
How many two wheelers does BD sell in a year? And IND?
How many mobile phones does BD sell in a year? And IND?
How much power does BD consume in a year? And IND?
How much tax does BD collect in a year? And IND?

Regards

@Nilgiri @Vkdindian1 @vasanthm @CallSignMaverick

If you want to cherrypick, might as well as ask, "how much gas does BD consume in a year? And Ind?"
 
@Species

Sure, let's not cherry pick. How about all energy consumption measured in KJ or barrels of oil equivalent/capita?

Regards

India's is higher, but what's your point? China has a higher per capita energy consumption than Belgium. This is because of the differences in the nature of industrial activities (China has more heavy industries).

Comparison makes sense where there is a level playing field.
 

India has huge oil refinery industry where huge are exported beside meeting 1.4 billion nation consumption of both refined oil

1.4 billion people also needs big electricity consumption

This kind of industry consume huge electricity, you also can see Iranian high electricity consumption despite relatively small GDP
 

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