India Lucky Not To Lose More Than Four Rafales

BonPlan said:
message of a previous indian jet fighter on onother forum :

"When I stated it, no one in the forum believed it. I very clearly stated that no Rafale was shot down. But 2 of them did have splinter hits. One was restored to flight Ops the very next day. Now the world is relaying what I had told. Lot of people believed the lies of PAF and the deep fake generated by Chinese. Please understand, in a war deception and narrative makes a lot of difference. The tactical mistake done by IAF on early morning of 7th May was to use Hammers instead of Scalp for hitting targets close to the border. This put Rafales in the harms way and they got attacked by nearly every fighter airborne at that time of PAF. They did a good job in evading the incoming missiles but lack of Metoer as an offensive weapon plus the mistake of using Hammer to strike targets, caused this. Max number of PL-15s were fired on Rafale formations. IAF then learnt the lessons and used Rafale for deep strike missions using scalp which delivered unprecendented accuracy. Kirana was hit by a Scalp.
I had at that time told you that scalp is a very costly weapon while Rampage used by Jags was far far cheaper and yet as effective. I also told you that IAF will go in for more Rafale. I was opposed by my friends from France.
Do you the the silverline of this tactical mistake of IAF? PAF fighters in order to shoot down Rafale came very close the borders of India which brought them within the range of our LRSAM and S-400. That is how we shot down 5 of their fighters using SAMs. So Rafale may have had gone into harms way but was effective as a bait."
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you ability to cook up lies is truly staggering and enviable!

1. Max missile (PL 15) fired, yet no intact or 'max' number of missiles were later found (remember earlier, they managed to find AMRAAM!)

2. only sufficient number of 'damaged' aircrafts to 'make believe'. To the contrary, when, 'max missiles were fired' (two dont add up!)


General Rule: Telling a lie to hide a lie, is also a lie!
 
Can anyone recall what were the tail numbers of the rafals shot down?
 
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A video released by india tv from ambala airbase after op sindhoor....
maybe we can something about the tailnumbers from here
 
Not for me to comment on the timing of this, but IAF chooses to give all its Rafales different serial number types....

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Yasser76 said:
Not for me to comment on the timing of this, but IAF chooses to give all its Rafales different serial number types....

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RB series is for twin seater
BS series is for single seater
 
Yasser76 said:
Here are the full serial numbers and CN numbers for both India's Rafale Sqds. Shows BS001 as a write off, we can however, now we figure out which ones are missing in the future

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Any idea which others were destroyed except BS001?
India has no way to hide 001 so they showed it as "written off". I wonder how they will mange other 3 which were lost?
 
TopGun786 said:
Any idea which others were destroyed except BS001?
India has no way to hide 001 so they showed it as "written off". I wonder how they will mange other 3 which were lost?
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Few serials have been posted on the forum, obviously now IAF engaged in changing and swapping serial numbers around
 
Yasser76 said:
Few serials have been posted on the forum, obviously now IAF engaged in changing and swapping serial numbers around
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Bharati folks are damn good at "packaging"! They can always bring out something out of nothing, and nothing out of something....
 
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Now the PAF can rest its case. No further deliverance is required....

I am pretty sure the top USAF officials are asking for something from their PAF counterparts. The problem is the USAF and PAF need to have the common platforms (like F-16 blk 70, F-35 etc.) to get the most out of each others acumen and experience....
 
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TopGun786 said:
Any idea which others were destroyed except BS001?
India has no way to hide 001 so they showed it as "written off". I wonder how they will mange other 3 which were lost?
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According to economist article bathinda crash site has two pilots ejecting, so its possible one crash site has two wrecks or may be a RB series airframe got lost too
 

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you ability to cook up lies is truly staggering and enviable!

1. Max missile (PL 15) fired, yet no intact or 'max' number of missiles were later found (remember earlier, they managed to find AMRAAM!)

2. only sufficient number of 'damaged' aircrafts to 'make believe'. To the contrary, when, 'max missiles were fired' (two dont add up!)


General Rule: Telling a lie to hide a lie, is also a lie!
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There were PL-15 missiles found in the indian soil. It is clrystal clear.
We just don't know if they were our of fuel or if they disfonctionned.
You can be sure the seekers are now fully analysed.
 
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