India Lucky Not To Lose More Than Four Rafales

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I don't know if this video was posted before but for me it's new.
Anybody can tell which IAF is this?
Locals are reporting in a very clear voice that area is pampore.
 
Tejas Spokesman said:
Exactly the Quwa article said the deal of around 160 million likely refers to 2 planes.
Indian Air Chief also claimed two Awacs (one by Sam in dinga and one on ground in Bholari).
Trump said "planes", he never said it was "one plane" costing "150 million each"
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On the contrary, Trump said 6-7 Jets were shot down .... we know only IAF Jets were shot down; Trump also said 150 Million Jets, where he clearly means communicates that expensive Jets were shot down and we all know which is the most expensive fighter Jet in the entire subcontinent.

But, the easiest thing to do was to get a netural audit done of all your assets, as our Defense Minister had challenged, so that the world was made aware of fact but your side expectedly declined. It is literally the most important sign that India lost more than 5 Jets, quite possibly 6-7 and perhap even more were damaged but not destroyed. Why else would you ground your entire fleet for 2 whole days and that too at the furthese Air Bases, away from Pakistan?
 
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I don't know if this video was posted before but for me it's new.
Anybody can tell which IAF is this?
Locals are reporting in a very clear voice that area is pampore.
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Mirage 2000 which fell on mtq school in wuyan pampore.
 
TopGun786 said:
Meteor range is around 200, far less than PL-15's 280-300 kilometers range.
NE for meteor is stated as 60Km but no one knows.
PL-15's ni escape zone whatever may be but definitely more than 60 km. It is well document that it can shoot a Rafale at more than 200 kilometers.
On the other hand meteor didn't even got chance to get fired as it was effectively jammed by PAF... So was proved ineffective.
And Rakesh! You are not a French. Don't lie again and again.
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I don't care if you think I'm french, polish, martian.

Meteor is a 165kg missile. Thanks to stato, it don't have to carry oxydizer as it take it directly from the air AND the engine is burning all the flight long, alowing the missile to keep its energy to the end, with a better NEZ than a solid engine with a short burn phase.
=> it is far more energy potent than the same classe of weight classical missile, specially a simple impulse one.
PL15E is max 45 kg heavier (PL-15 is said to be in the 200 to 230kg range, and PL-15E =< 210kg). far not enough to erase the difference in engine efficency.

So no, PL15 has not a better range and specially a better NEZ than Meteor.
 
BonPlan said:
every one don't agree with you
Corax

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Yasser76 said:
He is Indian yaar
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Nah, he's a french frog, he's been on here for years as a Rafale and french fanboy. I've met many frenchies like him, arrogant obnoxious cnts.
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Nope.
The fact that you spent many years on PDF with a fake ID doesn't make you French.
Also living as an illegal Indian immigrant in France doesn't make you French either.
Well.... it's off topic. I will just call you by your original name (Rakesh) and nothing else. Now back on topic.
 
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BonPlan said:
I don't care if you think I'm french, polish, martian.

Meteor is a 165kg missile. Thanks to stato, it don't have to carry oxydizer as it take it directly from the air AND the engine is burning all the flight long, alowing the missile to keep its energy to the end, with a better NEZ than a solid engine with a short burn phase.
=> it is far more energy potent than the same classe of weight classical missile, specially a simple impulse one.
PL15E is max 45 kg heavier (PL-15 is said to be in the 200 to 230kg range, and PL-15E =< 210kg). far not enough to erase the difference in engine efficency.

So no, PL15 has not a better range and specially a better NEZ than Meteor.
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I didn't read your essay Rakesh.
I will just state facts from real world scenario and real world combat.
The fact that in recent May conflict PL-15E "completely dominated" meteor, which were not used due to jamming and especially shorter range.
I will repeat..... In real world combat PL-15E OUTCLASSED METEOR by 100% margin.
So no matter how many times you babble about "speculated" or "marketed" specs of meteor it will always remain inferior to PL-15E.
Period.
 
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Donald Trump recently said that 7 aircraft were shot down, costing $150 million each and that's not even the true number of reported aircrafts shot down / destroyed.

Is it possible Pakistan may have destroyed some on the ground in India?
 
BonPlan said:
I don't care if you think I'm french, polish, martian.

Meteor is a 165kg missile. Thanks to stato, it don't have to carry oxydizer as it take it directly from the air AND the engine is burning all the flight long, alowing the missile to keep its energy to the end, with a better NEZ than a solid engine with a short burn phase.
=> it is far more energy potent than the same classe of weight classical missile, specially a simple impulse one.
PL15E is max 45 kg heavier (PL-15 is said to be in the 200 to 230kg range, and PL-15E =< 210kg). far not enough to erase the difference in engine efficency.

So no, PL15 has not a better range and specially a better NEZ than Meteor.
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No one thinks you are a martian mate. Most of us like you and laugh at you, and looking forward to replying to you. C U Next Tuesday.
 
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Pakistan Space Agency said:
Donald Trump recently said that 7 aircraft were shot down, costing $150 million each and that's not even the true number of reported aircrafts shot down / destroyed.

Is it possible Pakistan may have destroyed some on the ground in India?
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If all that Trump said was true....
-Hamas would have been disarmed so far, and the fights over in Gaza.
-The war in ukraine stopped since february
-230% import taxes on chinese products (may be more, may be less, there were so many changes).
so it is BS.
 
TopGun786 said:
The fact that in recent May conflict PL-15E "completely dominated" meteor, which were not used due to jamming and especially shorter range.
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No. there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE.
It is you dream.

Fact is that Meteor was not used in day 1 for reasons explained so many times on differents thread here.
And day 3 & 4 PAF was hidding.
 
BonPlan said:
but PL-15 has nothing impressiv. 230 kg for less range than the 165kg Meteor is all but impressiv.
no one knows here how many of these missiles were fired to Rafale, and even if the grounded Rafale was fired by one of them...

But what was sure is that PAF deseappear of the sky after day one. Short of missile? Meteor on the way ?
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’short of missile’ yeah, used em all for the purpose they are made for, shooting down IAF jets😉😂
‘Meteor on the way’ really? When’s it arriving? U do know that the air battle was back in May😂
Seriously, Your own DGMO states that IAF had to sort its tactics out for 2 whole days before ‘going back’ and you’re questioning why PAF ‘disappeared’😂 There is just no limit to shameless Indians😂 No answer for that make believe scenario because PAF never ‘disappeared’. But I can tell u why the IAF disappeared for 2 whole days at least (as per your DGMO) and even after that stayed well outside the PL-15’s range—— because it got more than a few of its top of the line jets smashed all over north west India including the Ra-fail. Looks like they didn’t even manage to get a shot off in reply, meteor or otherwise🤣
As if any Frenchman is gonna be this butthurt about India and more specifically IAF’s epic humiliation. 🤡
Publicly, Real Frenchmen are keeping their head down because they don’t want to jeopardise exports of their pride & joy. Privately they’re saying it’s not their jets fault if Indians didn’t know how to use it.
 
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In that 3 minute sequence that MKI ate atleast a dozen 20mm rounds, pulled retarded moves that would gotten sidewinders shoved up its ass in real life and that happens atleast half a dozen time not to mention the the pilot pulling enough Gs to turn his brain into mush, and of course the green f-16 and the pilot wearing surma, he is probably named jahazuddin aatangwadi surprised they didn't make him wear a white cap
 
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BonPlan said:
No. there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE.
It is you dream.

Fact is that Meteor was not used in day 1 for reasons explained so many times on differents thread here.
And day 3 & 4 PAF was hidding.
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Err…. No evidence? And what of all the IAF shot down wrecks including Ra-fail? Against zero PAF losses?😂
So 🤡AF came for the biggest air battle in decades and forgot its super duper meteor back at base ? Are they an AF or part of a circus?😂
 
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