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Big picture: whats Pakistani members here on loss of GDP/jobs for India from these tarrifs and what does it equate from a % perspective?

Truly, the levels of delusion is mind-boggling. Any changes (small drop) in employment will be countered by large amount of GDP growth. Yes it may take a few quarters - as it does for any shock - but by and large there is no structural issues to Indian goods/services exports
You guys have put too much weight on gdp growth figures.

The ind rupee it's not doing so well and even a few years of tariffs will set India back a whole lot.
 
They talk like foreign policy works the same way as begging the IMF every few years.
India is dealing with a global trade cycle, something you only face when you actually export things.
And what would India know about that, with 3% of global manufacturing exports.

1.5 billion population
 
You guys have put too much weight on gdp growth figures.

The ind rupee it's not doing so well and even a few years of tariffs will set India back a whole lot.

And what would India know about that, with 3% of global manufacturing exports.

1.5 billion population

People who live on IMF instalments really shouldn’t panic on India’s behalf. Don’t confuse routine market pressure with crisis, that’s your side’s specialty, not ours.
 
People who live on IMF instalments really shouldn’t panic on India’s behalf. Don’t confuse routine market pressure with crisis, that’s your side’s specialty, not ours.
This is a trash post, look at the thread title, it's literally the topic.
And you have 3% of global manufacturing, 1.5 billion people, you mentioned the topic of exports first.
 
This is a trash post, look at the thread title, it's literally the topic.
And you have 3% of global manufacturing, 1.5 billion people, you mentioned the topic of exports first.

All your posts are just low effort bait. Yes, India isn’t a manufacturing powerhouse, this isn’t some breaking revelation. What’s funny is that with your tiny population, it should be child’s play for Pakistan to build a stronger economy… yet you’re slipping behind even South Asia’s poorest benchmarks.

Maybe fix that before lecturing a country juggling 1.4 billion people and still growing faster than anyone around you.
 
All your posts are just low effort bait. Yes, India isn’t a manufacturing powerhouse, this isn’t some breaking revelation. What’s funny is that with your tiny population, it should be child’s play for Pakistan to build a stronger economy… yet you’re slipping behind even South Asia’s poorest benchmarks.

Maybe fix that before lecturing a country juggling 1.4 billion people and still growing faster than anyone around you.
You say it's low effort bait, yet you still acknowledge it to be true. Which is what I am more concerned with.

From previous posts, with more serious contributors, I have argued how South Asia is spiralling to a race to the bottom, the long term indicators for HDI look awful and are probably understated, this when the world is changing rapidly

Now is India not the biggest most consequential nation in South Asia?

About 10 years ago, Indians might have figured that they would have naturally assumed the leadership position in South Asia, the opposite is happening, that's an impressive failure.

I'm hearing echoes of decades gone by, suddenly there is an abrahamic conspiracy 😆
 
On the one hand you have leaders like Xi, Putin, Lula, Modi, Netanyahu, Carney and on the other you have peons from banana republics who are happy to just salute and polish boots as long as they get to shake hands with the Orange clown.
Quite a disparate group of individuals you have mentioned here, lumping them together arbitrarily. Makes me wonder if you actually have a clue what you're talking about or are just interested in proving your own c.v. credentials.
 
But but but Pakistan....

Clowns

It’s funny how Pakistanis dig through every spreadsheet on earth to find some gotcha about India, when their entire economy is one big structural flaw. And then, when the argument collapses, all they’ve got left is 'clowns'.
 
Economy|Unemployment

US tariffs ruin education dreams for children in India’s diamond hub​

For decades, India’s diamond industry offered workers a way to a better income and life for their families. Not anymore.

An employee sifts diamonds at a diamond cutting and polishing factory in Surat in the western Indian state of Gujarat

India's Diamond Workers Union has urged government authorities to address the issue of the growing number of school dropouts among workers' children [File: Arko Datta/Reuters]


By Anuj Behal and Suchak Patel
Published On 9 Dec 20259 Dec 2025

Surat, India – In 2018, Alpesh Bhai enrolled his three-year-old daughter in an English-language private school in Surat. This was something he never imagined possible while growing up in his village in the Indian state of Gujarat, where his family survived on small fields of fennel, castor and cumin, with their earnings barely enough to cover basic needs.

He had studied in a public school, where, he recalled, “teachers were a rarity, and English almost didn’t exist”.

“Maybe if I knew English, I would have been some government worker. Who knows?”, he said, referring to the dream of a majority of Indians, as government jobs come with tenure and benefits.

His finances improved once he joined the diamond cutting industry in Surat, a city perched along India’s Arabian Sea coast, where nearly 80 percent of the world’s diamonds are cut and polished. Monthly earnings of 35,000 rupees ($390) for the first time brought Alpesh a sense of stability, and with it, the means to give his children the education he never had.

“I was determined that at least my children would get the kind of private education I was deprived of,” he said.

But that dream did not last. The first disruption to business came with Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022. The sanctions on Russia hurt supply chains, as India sourced at least a third of its raw diamonds from Russia, leading to layoffs.

Alpesh’s earnings fell to 18,000 rupees ($200) a month, then to 20,000 rupees ($222). Soon, the 25,000 rupees ($280) annual school fee became unmanageable. By the time his older daughter reached grade three, just as his younger child started school, the pressure became impossible.

Earlier this year, he pulled both children out of private school and enrolled them in a nearby public one. A few months later, when new United States tariffs deepened the crisis as demand slumped further, his polishing unit laid off 60 percent of its workers, Alpesh among them.

“Seems like I’ve come back to where I started,” he said.

Surat, India’s diamond hub, employs more than 600,000 workers, and hosts 15 large polishing units with annual sales exceeding $100m. For decades, Surat’s diamond‑polishing industry has offered migrant workers from rural Gujarat, many with little or no education, higher incomes, in some cases up to 100,000 rupees ($1,112) a month, and a path out of agrarian hardship.

But recent shocks have exposed the fragility of that ladder, with close to 400,000 workers having faced layoffs, pay cuts, or reduced hours.

Even before Russia’s war on Ukraine began in February 2022, Surat’s diamond industry faced multiple challenges: disrupted supplies from African mines, weakening demand in key Western markets, and inconsistent exports to China, the second-largest customer. With the onset of the war, India’s exports of cut and polished diamonds in the financial year ending on March 31, 2024, fell by 27.6 percent, with sharp declines in its top markets – the US, China, and the United Arab Emirates.

The 50 percent tariffs imposed by US President Donald Trump have worsened the downturn.

Alpesh now works loading and unloading textile consignments for about 12,000 rupees ($133) a month, barely enough to cover food and rent.

“If I had kept them in the private school, I don’t know how I would have survived,” Alpesh said. “People here have killed themselves over debts and school fees. When you don’t have enough to eat, how will you think of teaching your children well?”

His daughters are still adjusting. “They sometimes tell me, ‘Pupa, the studies aren’t as good now’. I tell them we’ll put them back in the private school soon, but I don’t know when that will happen.”

‘An exodus’​

Some workers have returned to their villages, as many migrant families in Surat can no longer afford rent or find alternative work.

Shyam Patel, 35, was among them. When exports slowed and US tariffs hit in August, the polishing unit where he worked shut down. With no other work available, he returned to his village in the Banaskantha district the following month.

“What other option was there?” he said. “In the city, there’s rent to pay even when there’s no work.”

He now works as a daily-wage labourer in cotton fields in his village. His son, who was in the final year of high school, dropped out after four months of the new academic session.


“We’ll put him back in school next year,” Shyam said. “The government school said they can’t take new students in the middle of the term. Till then, he helps me in the fields.”

Across the city, the disruption is evident in government data. More than 600 students left school mid-session last year as their parents lost work or returned to their villages, mostly in Saurashtra and north Gujarat.

“Most migrants come to Surat to settle – the city has entire [neighbourhoods] and housing clusters built for diamond workers,” said Bhavesh Tank, vice president of the Diamond Workers Union Gujarat. “An exodus in the middle of the year is unprecedented, and the drop in school enrolment suggests many are not coming back soon.”

The union estimates that about 50,000 workers have left Surat over the past 12 to 14 months.

The Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), a Hindu nationalist group allied with Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s governing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), has been closely observing the diamond industry crisis in Surat.

“The number of dropouts has reached a point where even government schools are struggling to take in new students, said Purvesh Togadia, a VHP representative in the city. “The poor quality of education is making the transition even more disheartening for families.”

The poor quality of education in public schools is well established. In 2024, only 23.4 percent of grade three students could read at a grade two level, compared with 35.5 percent in private schools. By grade 5, the gap persisted – 44.8 percent in government schools versus 59.3 percent in private ones.

Kishor Bhamre, director at Pratham, an organisation working on children’s rights across education and labour, said the setback is not just academic but psychological.

“Children moving from private to government schools lose the environment they grew up in – their friends, familiar teachers, and a sense of community. For many, it also means shifting from an urban to a rural setting, which makes the adjustment even harder and affects their learning,” he said.

Al Jazeera reached out to the Surat Municipal Corporation and the state’s education minister for comment, but did not receive a response.

Limited help​

The Diamond Workers Union has repeatedly appealed to the state government to provide an economic relief package and revise salaries in line with inflation. The union has also urged authorities to address the equally pressing situation of the growing number of school dropouts among workers’ children.

The Gujarat government in May introduced a special assistance package for affected diamond workers – a rare move in the industry.

Under the scheme, the state government committed to paying for one year of school fees for diamond polishers’ children, up to 13,500 rupees ($150) annually. To qualify, workers must have been unemployed for the past year and have at least three years of experience in a diamond factory. The fees will be paid directly to the schools.

The government received nearly 90,000 requests from diamond workers across Gujarat, including about 74,000 from Surat alone. After a slow start – it had provided assistance to only 170 children by July – officials reported disbursing 82.8 million rupees ($921,000) towards school fees for 6,368 children of jobless diamond workers in Surat by mid-September.

But about 26,000 applicants were rejected, reportedly due to “improper details mentioned” in the forms, leading to frustration and anger among workers. In the past few days, nearly 1,000 diamond polishers have filed applications with the local government, demanding to know who rejected their forms and on what grounds, and alleging opacity in the process.

The scheme’s rigid eligibility criteria have also excluded workers.

“The scheme only covers those who have completely lost their jobs, but it leaves out many who are facing partial cuts or reduced work,” said Tank. “They’re struggling just as much and need support equally.”

Tank added that education remains one of the most common concerns among workers reaching out to the union’s suicide prevention helpline, which was set up by the Diamond Workers Union after Surat had already recorded at least 71 suicides among diamond workers by November 2024. It has received more than 5,000 calls so far.

Divyaben Makwana, 40, lost her 22-year-old son, Kewalbhai, who had been working as a diamond polisher for three years. On June 14, he died by suicide.

Kewalbhai had been under immense mental stress after losing his job in the diamond market, his mother told Al Jazeera.

“He was earning around 20,000 rupees ($220) a month, and when even that collapsed,” he took his life, she said. “We took him to the hospital and did everything we could. I borrowed 500,000 rupees ($5,560) from relatives and friends, but we couldn’t save him. Now, I don’t have a son – only a loan.”

She lives in Surat with her husband, who has been unable to work due to prolonged illness, and their younger son, Karmdeep, 18. With no means to return to their village in Saurashtra, Divyaben has begun working as a domestic worker to make ends meet. Karmdeep dropped out after grade 11, and now attends a local coaching centre, where he is learning diamond faceting while looking for work.

“Education has become so expensive,” Divyaben said. “At least with coaching, he’ll learn a skill. By the time the market recovers, if he’s trained as a craftsman, maybe we’ll be able to repay some of our debts.”

She paused, her voice low. “I don’t know if education, whether taken on loan or given free, can really change our fate. Our only hope is still the diamond.”

If you or someone you know is at risk of suicide, these organisations may be able to help.

You can access the Diamond Workers Union helpline at +91-92395 00009.


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This article is essentially excusing modern day slavery and instead is blaming the government for tariff mismanagement. Tariffs are a blessing in disguise for Hindustan. It will force them to do something about their millions of low end workers trapped in this suicide inducing mess.
 
Big picture: whats Pakistani members here on loss of GDP/jobs for India from these tarrifs and what does it equate from a % perspective?

Truly, the levels of delusion is mind-boggling. Any changes (small drop) in employment will be countered by large amount of GDP growth. Yes it may take a few quarters - as it does for any shock - but by and large there is no structural issues to Indian goods/services exports
From "deal will be reached, trust Modi jee for his professional chanakiya balancing act" to "chanakiya has failed, Modi jee lied, no problem saar!".
 
You’re making India’s challenges sound like some grand South Asian collapse just so Pakistan feels less lonely. We’re still the only country in the region actually moving up while you are stuck begging for bailouts.
Moving up to what? If there are macro indicators on development then I'm sure you would be the first to know.

Normally I'm surprised I haven't heard about the huge stockpile of dollars, but then it's probably best to be quiet about that with a devaluing rupee


What do you even want to say other than you are Pakistani so don't talk about the Indian economy..... On a thread about the Indian economy in a PDF.

Okay.
 
Moving up to what? If there are macro indicators on development then I'm sure you would be the first to know.

Normally I'm surprised I haven't heard about the huge stockpile of dollars, but then it's probably best to be quiet about that with a devaluing rupee


What do you even want to say other than you are Pakistani so don't talk about the Indian economy..... On a thread about the Indian economy in a PDF.

Okay.

'Moving up to what?'
To literally every metric Pakistan dreams of, investment, tech, infrastructure, energy capacity, VC inflows, and a financial system that isn’t rebooted by the IMF every 18 months.
 
It’s funny how Pakistanis dig through every spreadsheet on earth to find some gotcha about India, when their entire economy is one big structural flaw. And then, when the argument collapses, all they’ve got left is 'clowns'.
Then close the thread and no one will comment. Absolute goblin.
 
'Moving up to what?'
To literally every metric Pakistan dreams of, investment, tech, infrastructure, energy capacity, VC inflows, and a financial system that isn’t rebooted by the IMF every 18 months.
But you have 1.5 billion people, of course you will have more infrastructure, but what's the HDI. I believe you have some nicer trains than before. By the end of the journey litter is everywhere.

Is this going up?
 

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