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[PakFactor]

Even bessent said its not just India buying Russian oil. This mean USA is after market access at 0 tariff. Otherwise 50% tariff will stay.

If you back-check my posts, I have said from the beginning that this is about market sector access. India's position is sacred in protecting its agricultural and dairy sector.

Access to agriculture and dairy is also a sticking point in Canada-US talks.

Due to Trump's trade war with China, the U.S. is forced to provide subsidies to its farmers, which is upwards of $36 billion and counting. China has been purchasing large quantities from Brazil and Australia, and U.S. Producers need new markets.

 

[Han Patriot]

Scott Bessent has addressed this. Effective tariffs on China including from Trump 1.0 and Biden are around 54%. Also, China has agreed to 30% additional tariffs from USA while charging only 10% additional for imports from the US. India still has over 100% tariffs on many American goods. Finally, the American claim is that China was already buying a lot of Russian oil before the invasion and India was not. So, India is being more opportunistic. Anyway, neither China nor India have a final deal yet. Let us wait and watch how those play out.

You should use grok and check, the max Chinese tariffs are 30%. It is 30 % because both agreed on base 10% tariffs but Trump charged a fentanyl 20% tax. I think electronics and some essentials were excluded from the 20% tax. We have been buying iranian and Russian oil before India even had the balls to buy. Anyway I still respect India for sticking for Russia instead of previously bending over for Trump on Iran. lolol

 

[Yasser76]

Loving this, taking no prisoners here...

Trump adviser says Russia-Ukraine 'Modi's war' as India tariffs rise​

Image source,Bloomberg via Getty Images
Image caption,
US Trade Adviser Peter Navarro has been a vocal critic of India's import of Russian oil
Abhishek Dey
BBC News, Delhi

• • Published
    23 minutes ago

A White House official has described Russia's ongoing war with Ukraine as Indian Prime Minister Narendra "Modi's war", stepping up pressure on Delhi to stop buying oil from Moscow.

US Trade Adviser Peter Navarro's comments came hours after US tariffs of 50% on Indian goods kicked in on Wednesday.

The tariffs, among the highest in the world, include a 25% penalty for purchase of weapons and oil from Russia which, the US claims, is a key source of funds for its war in Ukraine.

India has called the tariffs unfair and says it will not scale back purchases, insisting it will seek the "best deal" on oil to safeguard the interests of its 1.4 billion people.
Russia, which supplied less than 2% of India's crude before it invaded Ukraine in February 2022, now accounts for 35-40% of Delhi's oil imports, making it the largest source.

But India has pointed out that the US has not imposed similar additional tariffs on China, which is the largest importer of Russian oil, or the European Union, which still conducts a huge amount of trade with Russia.

Navarro's iteration of the US position came in an interview with Bloomberg TV.

"Everybody in America loses because of what India is doing. The consumers and businesses and everything lose, and workers lose because India's high tariffs cost us jobs, factories and income and higher wages. And then the taxpayers lose because we got to fund Modi's war," he was quoted saying.

When asked if he actually meant "Putin's war" instead, Mr Navarro said: "I mean Modi's war, because the road to peace runs, in part, through New Delhi."

Navarro then went on to add: "What's troubling to me is that the Indians are so arrogant about this. They say, 'Oh, we don't have higher tariffs. Oh, it's our sovereignty. We can buy oil from anyone we want.' India, you're the biggest democracy in the world, okay, act like one."

Navarro's comments came on the day US tariffs of 50% on goods from India took effect, a move that will disrupt millions of livelihoods across the country's export-driven industries. India supplies everything, from clothes to diamonds and shrimp to American consumers.

But despite the war of words between Delhi and Washington - and cancellation of trade negotiations which were set to begin earlier this week - there is still hope of a way out for India, which remains a vital strategic US partner in the Indo-Pacific region.

Analysts say comments by another US official - Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent - expressing confidence in bilateral ties with India point in that direction.

"I do think India's the world's largest democracy; the US is the world's largest economy. I think at the end of the day we will come together," Mr Bessent said in an interview with Fox Business on Wednesday.

The tariff setback has sent the Indian government into firefighting mode. Delhi has said the immediate impact on Indian exports appears limited, but the ripple effects on the economy pose challenges that require immediate solutions.

Earlier this month, Modi promised to cut taxes to mitigate the impact of tariffs.

In its monthly review report for July, external released on Wednesday, India's finance ministry said that ongoing India-US trade negotiations "will be crucial" in this regard.

US tariffs on India: Trump adviser says Russia-Ukraine is 'Modi's war'

Trade Adviser Peter Navarro's comments came hours after US tariffs of 50% on Indian goods kicked in.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Rationale]

You should use grok and check, the max Chinese tariffs are 30%. It is 30 % because both agreed on base 10% tariffs but Trump charged a fentanyl 20% tax. I think electronics and some essentials were excluded from the 20% tax. We have been buying iranian and Russian oil before India even had the balls to buy. Anyway I still respect India for sticking for Russia instead of previously bending over for Trump on Iran. lolol

The 54% ( IIRC) number was directly from the horse's ( Bessent) mouth. My understanding ( in fact I had checked the executive order a while back to confirm) is that all the country specific tariffs that Trump is announcing are incremental on top of existing tariffs. So, the 20% + 10% on China , 50% on India, 20% on Vietnam, etc are all on top of tariffs that were already being charged . It works differently for sector specific tariffs . For example, steel and aluminium exports for all countries ( irrespective of country specific rate) are at 50% , electronic and pharma are exempt , etc. I am not sure if you are correct about China being charged an extra 10% even on goods like pharma, electronics and steel which have sector specific tariffs.

By the way, grok and other generative AI models are all of BS in areas where the quality of training data is bad. I have personally experience it in some tax and legal matters. Garbage in, garbage out still applies, no matter how good the model and hardware are.

 

[Han Patriot]

The 54% ( IIRC) number was directly from the horse's ( Bessent) mouth. My understanding ( in fact I had checked the executive order a while back to confirm) is that all the country specific tariffs that Trump is announcing are incremental on top of existing tariffs. So, the 20% + 10% on China , 50% on India, 20% on Vietnam, etc are all on top of tariffs that were already being charged . It works differently for sector specific tariffs . For example, steel and aluminium exports for all countries ( irrespective of country specific rate) are at 50% , electronic and pharma are exempt , etc. I am not sure if you are correct about China being charged an extra 10% even on goods like pharma, electronics and steel which have sector specific tariffs.

By the way, grok and other generative AI models are all of BS in areas where the quality of training data is bad. I have personally experience it in some tax and legal matters. Garbage in, garbage out still applies, no matter how good the model and hardware are.

So you are trying to prove India is winning over China because China is at 54% LOLOL. You bended over like a b*tch and in the end what did you get? You still haven't learned your lesson? Don't be a cuck. You see your mentality, instead of fighting back the oppressor, you are trying to feel better by looking for who got it worst. You still have the slave mentality. US slap us we slap them back, now Trump slap you, what are you doing? NOTHING.

Dude, do you think we care? Tariffs were even 145%, we didn't even give a fck. Look at Modi coming to beg us. I remember a few years back Indians here were desperately trying to prove China was not importing Iranian oil after Trump threatened anybody buying Iranian oil with sanctions, and cuck India hastily obliged. HAHAHAHAHAHA. In the end, China imported the most Iranian oil that year. That's the difference between a real Superpower and a SUPAPOWAH.

 

[Rationale]

So you are trying to prove India is winning over China because China is at 54% LOLOL. You bended over like a b*tch and in the end what did you get? You still haven't learned your lesson? Don't be a cuck.

Dude, do you think we care? Tariffs were even 145%, we didn't even give a fck. Look at Modi coming to beg us. I remember a few years back Indians here were desperately trying to prove China was not importing Iranian oil after Trump threatened anybody buying Iranian oil with sanctions, and cuck India hastily obliged. HAHAHAHAHAHA. In the end, China imported the most Iranian oil that year.

I am not trying to prove anything , just stating the reasons Besent has given to justify not imposing the oil tariff on China on top of existing tariffs when he was asked why the US was targetting India with Russia tariffs and not China. One of his arguments was that effective tariffs on China were already very high.

This is what the AI tool says :

"The tariffs imposed by the United States on China are complex and have evolved over time, with new layers being added to existing ones. The proposed 10% "base" tariffs and a 20% tariff on certain Chinese goods (specifically related to fentanyl and money laundering) are indeed incremental.
Here's a breakdown:
Existing Tariffs: The US already has a system of tariffs on Chinese goods from the previous administration, often referred to as "Trump 1.0 tariffs." These tariffs, which are still in place, were implemented under Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974.
The New Tariffs: The current administration has implemented additional tariffs, including a 10% tariff on all goods from China and a 20% tariff on certain goods to address concerns over the export of fentanyl and money laundering. These new tariffs are applied on top of the existing ones.
This tiered system can lead to a very high effective tariff rate on some products. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has discussed these complex tariff calculations, and the effective rate on Chinese imports has been a subject of negotiation and debate. While specific figures can fluctuate due to ongoing negotiations and different product categories, the effective rate on some Chinese imports has indeed been reported to be high, with some sources citing rates above 50% when all the different tariffs are combined."

 

[Beijingwalker]

But isn't India supposed to be the so called " Quad " ally of US.
How is it going with " Quad " now?

 

[Han Patriot]

I am not trying to prove anything , just stating the reasons Besent has given to justify not imposing the oil tariff on China on top of existing tariffs when he was asked why the US was targetting India with Russia tariffs and not China. One of his arguments was that effective tariffs on China were already very high.

This is what the AI tool says :

"The tariffs imposed by the United States on China are complex and have evolved over time, with new layers being added to existing ones. The proposed 10% "base" tariffs and a 20% tariff on certain Chinese goods (specifically related to fentanyl and money laundering) are indeed incremental.
Here's a breakdown:
Existing Tariffs: The US already has a system of tariffs on Chinese goods from the previous administration, often referred to as "Trump 1.0 tariffs." These tariffs, which are still in place, were implemented under Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974.
The New Tariffs: The current administration has implemented additional tariffs, including a 10% tariff on all goods from China and a 20% tariff on certain goods to address concerns over the export of fentanyl and money laundering. These new tariffs are applied on top of the existing ones.
This tiered system can lead to a very high effective tariff rate on some products. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has discussed these complex tariff calculations, and the effective rate on Chinese imports has been a subject of negotiation and debate. While specific figures can fluctuate due to ongoing negotiations and different product categories, the effective rate on some Chinese imports has indeed been reported to be high, with some sources citing rates above 50% when all the different tariffs are combined."

Doesn't matter if it was 50% or 30%, to us, it makes no difference. Countries like India, Vietnam, Mexico, Korea have deficits with us, they are buying shit from to assemble and resell it back to the great ol' USA. Many Indians were hoping badly China will collapse after COVID. People just never learn.

 

[Rationale]

Doesn't matter if it was 50% or 30%, to us, it makes no difference. Countries like India, Vietnam, Mexico, Korea have deficits with us, they are buying shit from to assemble and resell it back to the great ol' USA. Many Indians were hoping badly China will collapse after COVID. People just never learn.

I honestly don't understand what your problem is. I have not said any of the things you have ascribed to me. I just pointed out an argument the US Treasury Secretary made and didn't even agree with it. I actually have a lot of respect for Chinese leaders like Xi and Wang Yi, who are strategic thinkers and making decisions in the long term interest of China, unlike some of the clowns in charge of other countries.

 

[ety]

You should use grok and check, the max Chinese tariffs are 30%. It is 30 % because both agreed on base 10% tariffs but Trump charged a fentanyl 20% tax. I think electronics and some essentials were excluded from the 20% tax. We have been buying iranian and Russian oil before India even had the balls to buy. Anyway I still respect India for sticking for Russia instead of previously bending over for Trump on Iran. lolol

China also imposes between 20% to 30% tariffs on a number of US products in response to US 20% fentanyl tariff on Chinese products, and there some Chinese sanctions too. What the US wants others to believe is that China did nothing to their 20% tariff and they are crushing China, lol.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Yasser76

Loving this, taking no prisoners here...

Badnaam hua to kya hua, naam to hua. Tough as this is, at least we are getting some free publicity.

Regards

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

I don't understand the similarity at all. Trump is a habitual boaster. It is a matter of record that he didn't speak to Modi or Pakistan's de facto dictator Munir during the conflict. At that time, he publicly said America was not involved and the two countries would sort out things between themselves. Even when he announced the ceasefire, he made no mention of trade. Now , months later he is remembering conversations where he threatened Munir with 100% or more head -spinning tariffs. If you want to believe your Field Marshall surrendered to Trump's threats, you are free to do so.

Now, you're convoluting a lot of different things together that make no sense.

Before the conflict started, Donald Trump said he didn't want to get involved as he believed both countries could sort it out amongst themselves.

During the conflict (10 May 2025), the Americans informed Indian Government that Pakistan was going to hit them very, very hard as per the assessment of the American intelligence.

This resulted in India asking for a ceasefire through the US. Donald Trump immediately claimed he had offered trade to both countries and due to his trade deal, the ceasefire had taken place.

Now, at some point after this, Surrender Modi and Donald Trump had a long phone call where Surrender Modi wanted Donald Trump to believe only the Indian version of the events that India had the upper hand. Donald Trump refused and both men fell out.

More than a month later, our Government decided (21 June) to nominate Donald Trump for Nobel Peace Prize so we could bring the Zion-Iran war to an end, as we didn't want any sort of regime change happening in brotherly Iran. The nomination ended the war on 24 June 2025.

Since then, Donald Trump has been insulting India, punishing India with sanctions and he's now claiming he had given Surrender Modi a 24 hour ultimatum to agree to the ceasefire but Surrender Modi succumbed in just 5-hours. Whether this is true or not, doesn't matter - he's just insulting Surrender Modi and there's nothing India can do about it.

Why don't you ask Surrender Modi to open his gob and give couple of press conferences to put the record straight rather than burying his head in the sand like an ostrich.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Trump never spoke to Modi because Modi was avoiding his calls. That ultimatum was actually given to the Field Marshal, with whom Trump enjoys long, deep and cordial dialogues .

Are you saying Donald Trump and Surrender Modi have not spoken to one another on the phone since 10 May 2025?

Also, when Donald Trump has publicly said that he had given a 24 hour ultimatum to Surrender Modi, how does that translate into Donald Trump speaking with Field Marshall Asim Munir on the phone?

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Loving this, taking no prisoners here...

Trump adviser says Russia-Ukraine 'Modi's war' as India tariffs rise​

Image source,Bloomberg via Getty Images
Image caption,
US Trade Adviser Peter Navarro has been a vocal critic of India's import of Russian oil
Abhishek Dey
BBC News, Delhi

• • Published
    23 minutes ago

A White House official has described Russia's ongoing war with Ukraine as Indian Prime Minister Narendra "Modi's war", stepping up pressure on Delhi to stop buying oil from Moscow.

US Trade Adviser Peter Navarro's comments came hours after US tariffs of 50% on Indian goods kicked in on Wednesday.

The tariffs, among the highest in the world, include a 25% penalty for purchase of weapons and oil from Russia which, the US claims, is a key source of funds for its war in Ukraine.

India has called the tariffs unfair and says it will not scale back purchases, insisting it will seek the "best deal" on oil to safeguard the interests of its 1.4 billion people.
Russia, which supplied less than 2% of India's crude before it invaded Ukraine in February 2022, now accounts for 35-40% of Delhi's oil imports, making it the largest source.

But India has pointed out that the US has not imposed similar additional tariffs on China, which is the largest importer of Russian oil, or the European Union, which still conducts a huge amount of trade with Russia.

Navarro's iteration of the US position came in an interview with Bloomberg TV.

"Everybody in America loses because of what India is doing. The consumers and businesses and everything lose, and workers lose because India's high tariffs cost us jobs, factories and income and higher wages. And then the taxpayers lose because we got to fund Modi's war," he was quoted saying.

When asked if he actually meant "Putin's war" instead, Mr Navarro said: "I mean Modi's war, because the road to peace runs, in part, through New Delhi."

Navarro then went on to add: "What's troubling to me is that the Indians are so arrogant about this. They say, 'Oh, we don't have higher tariffs. Oh, it's our sovereignty. We can buy oil from anyone we want.' India, you're the biggest democracy in the world, okay, act like one."

Navarro's comments came on the day US tariffs of 50% on goods from India took effect, a move that will disrupt millions of livelihoods across the country's export-driven industries. India supplies everything, from clothes to diamonds and shrimp to American consumers.

But despite the war of words between Delhi and Washington - and cancellation of trade negotiations which were set to begin earlier this week - there is still hope of a way out for India, which remains a vital strategic US partner in the Indo-Pacific region.

Analysts say comments by another US official - Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent - expressing confidence in bilateral ties with India point in that direction.

"I do think India's the world's largest democracy; the US is the world's largest economy. I think at the end of the day we will come together," Mr Bessent said in an interview with Fox Business on Wednesday.

The tariff setback has sent the Indian government into firefighting mode. Delhi has said the immediate impact on Indian exports appears limited, but the ripple effects on the economy pose challenges that require immediate solutions.

Earlier this month, Modi promised to cut taxes to mitigate the impact of tariffs.

In its monthly review report for July, external released on Wednesday, India's finance ministry said that ongoing India-US trade negotiations "will be crucial" in this regard.

US tariffs on India: Trump adviser says Russia-Ukraine is 'Modi's war'

Trade Adviser Peter Navarro's comments came hours after US tariffs of 50% on Indian goods kicked in.

www.bbc.co.uk

USA at this point is just humiliating India. Nothing they say make much sense.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@hydrabadi_arab

Hydra bro,

Nothing they say make much sense.

For once, I agree with you.

Regards