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[r3alist]

But if you think about it logically, boasting about a massive GDP while watching a much smaller economy achieve in a few short years what took you decades to figure out isn't exactly a flex. It should actually make you stop and ask yourselves, "If this country can do all of this with a fraction of the budget and manpower, why are we still struggling?

Exactly my point.

The answer to everything....we have a big GDP


Appropriate benchmarks are seen as hostile

 

[Sam6536]

China is no longer your rival, it was always Pakistan, lol, ok

So really your benchmark is Pakistan

Rival in what sense? Economically they are too far ahead. Aspiration wise the new generation looks at the Chinese model as a successful model but is still wary of Chinese machinations on the region.

Geopolitically India hedges between the East and West. India and China are at loggerheads on many different issues but still find a way to trade and have bilateral relations.

Pakistan's arms industry is a conduit for Chinese arms industry. In that way India's military expansion has to take into account both the factors.

 

[Yasser76]

BD issue is temporary it will subside just like what happened with Maldives. BNP is a pragmatic party, even if it was Jamaat at the helm in the longer run considering the geography the trade and political relation will normalise.

Iran's situation is very tricky right now. Even if we wanted to continue the port's affairs we wouldn't be able to given their domestic and international turmoil. By the way India hasn't exited the ports affairs entirely, the news that broke out a while ago was India taking an off hand approach and diverging the liabilities of government officials from American sanctions.

7th May was a skirmish, you did well by increasing export numbers for the JF17 and J10C but it doesn't really change the geopolitical calculus of the region.

Sorry, all of that is just wishful thinking about what may happen in the future, I could argue the complete opposite, it is meaningless.

Right now, as things stand, India has lost a lot of influence in BD and Iran.

If you think with regards to Pak relations with Saudia, US and Turkiye have not changed the calculus in the region, that is something I cannot help you with, although as an Indian living in India and being exposed to Indian news, it does not surprise me.

Yes, 7th May was a skirmish, the fact India was bested in the air completely has changed how many nations view Pakistan and India vis a vis each other. On paper it was supposed to be a walk over for India and India could have asserted conventional dominance over Pakistan. It now has to figure out how to do that, and it seems like the answer is just to throw a lot of money at the French and pray....

 

[r3alist]

Rival in what sense? Economically they are too far ahead. Aspiration wise the new generation looks at the Chinese model as a successful model but is still wary of Chinese machinations on the region.

Geopolitically India hedges between the East and West. India and China are at loggerheads on many different issues but still find a way to trade and have bilateral relations.

Pakistan's arms industry is a conduit for Chinese arms industry. In that way India's military expansion has to take into account both the factors.

They are meant to be your primary military adversary, with Pakistan being a non issue, easily manageable.

India is meant to be unwilling to accept a Chinese led Asia and has border issues.

You also need to kick china out of Kashmir.


But in reality you dont want anything to do with competing with China.

So you buy from the west and obsess over Pakistan.

 

[Yasser76]

They are meant to be your primary military adversary, with Pakistan being a non issue, easily manageable.

India is meant to be unwilling to accept a Chinese led Asia and has border issues.

You also need to kick china out of Kashmir.


But in reality you dont want anything to do with competing with China.

So you buy from the west and obsess over Pakistan.

Can you believe a decade ago US was touting India as a "Net security provider".

All of that talk has finished and now you see Pak Saudi defence pacts with maybe more in the making.

I think many of us do not comprehend the effects May 7th had, Indians on here will down play it for obvious reasons, but you can pretty much time Pakistan's strategic reasurgence to that exact date....

 

[r3alist]

Can you believe a decade ago US was touting India as a "Net security provider".

All of that talk has finished and now you see Pak Saudi defence pacts with maybe more in the making.

I think many of us do not comprehend the effects May 7th had, Indians on here will down play it for obvious reasons, but you can pretty much time Pakistan's strategic reasurgence to that exact date....

This certainly sealed the deal


So India is scared of China, tried to offset this against Pakistan

Failed over there too


Talk about made in India, the French will squeeze them for decades to come.



The good thing about having many vocal Indians, is the rest of the world gets to see them outside of India Pak context.



Even if India wanted to suck up to China the Chinese won't have it.

 

[harpy1]

You guys really need to take a reality check about sindoor the Indian perspective is totally different

You were on your knees after 10th
Out of drones
Fuel fighter sorties
Failed air defense
India was threatening to open up the entire line of control and deep into Pakistan
The minute we hit kirana hills you people panicked ran to USA threatening nukes

Trump said yesterday that he was told 25 million lives were savedwgat utter nonsense
We call Sindoor skirmish attack on terror sites not Pak military
You guys treat it like that he greatest conflict of 21st century
It was nothing

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Of course you will deny it as fake
We know what our resources are and what your resources are

 

[Corax]

You guys really need to take a reality check about sindoor the Indian perspective is totally different

You were on your knees after 10th
Out of drones
Fuel fighter sorties
Failed air defense
India was threatening to open up the entire line of control and deep into Pakistan
The minute we hit kirana hills you people panicked ran to USA threatening nukes

Trump said yesterday that he was told 25 million lives were savedwgat utter nonsense
We call Sindoor skirmish attack on terror sites not Pak military
You guys treat it like that he greatest conflict of 21st century
It was nothing

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Of course you will deny it as fake
We know what our resources are and what your resources are

Yes, we all know about the indian perspective of capturing Lahore port.

 

[harpy1]

Back to topic Indian air force
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Yes, we all know about the indian perspective of capturing Lahore port

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Apparently you people told Trump he saved 10 million lives lol

I mean come on
Like I said you people were on your knees ready to press button
Hoping USA would intervene
Which they obviously did on your behalf
We will nuke India tell them stop cruise missiles on our bases
You resources finished in four days flat ..as I predicted you would
Your one tenth our size
You can't fight wars with no finances to buy more hardware quickly

 

[harpy1]

The su30mki which Yasser calls bomb truck and the rafales
With brahmos and scalp
Backed by Israeli loitering muntions
Blitzed your bases took out radars with pinpoint accuracy guided by Indian navic satalites
That's why
Today
India is ordering more Israeli hardware
More rafales IE 40 billion worth
More Brahmos
More s400
They worked
They proved how to take out the entire pak military complex in days if needed

This is the biggest lesson of Sindoor how to fight Sindoor two and IN India,s case they are ordering inducting the equipment to fight a aggressive long range strike war

On the front foot

 

[Corax]

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Apparently you people told Trump he saved 10 million lives lol

I mean come on
Like I said you people were on your knees ready to press button
Hoping USA would intervene
Which they obviously did on your behalf
We will nuke India tell them stop cruise missiles on our bases
You were resources finished four days flat as I predicted you would
Your one tenth our size

Finished resources? It was IAF rafails that were falling like flies from the sky, not PAF fighters. Even by the words of your modi, he was bitching about Pakistan attacking india, and Shashi Tharoor pissing his doti claiming Pakistan isn't the same Pakistan as in 1971. Your BJP leader also claimed 5-6 fighters destroyed. You were grounded for two days and all you could do is lob SOWs from deep within your own airspace.

 

[TopGun786]

You guys really need to take a reality check about sindoor the Indian perspective is totally different

You were on your knees after 10th
Out of drones
Fuel fighter sorties
Failed air defense
India was threatening to open up the entire line of control and deep into Pakistan
The minute we hit kirana hills you people panicked ran to USA threatening nukes

Trump said yesterday that he was told 25 million lives were savedwgat utter nonsense
We call Sindoor skirmish attack on terror sites not Pak military
You guys treat it like that he greatest conflict of 21st century
It was nothing

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Of course you will deny it as fake
We know what our resources are and what your resources are

This is not a comedy show thread.

 

[Corax]

This is nit a comedy show thread.

On the contrary, it is when you see the delusions of the indian clowns on here.

 

[TopGun786]

On the contrary, it is when you see the delusions of the indian clowns on here.

May 2025 brought extreme humiliation to IA and especially IAF. Indians simply can't comprehend it and now try hard to twist the facts. World is not buying their narrative anymore. Even best of their friends are trolling them hard now.

 

[Yasser76]

May 2025 brought extreme humiliation to IA and especially IAF. Indians simply can't comprehend it and now try hard to twist the facts. World is not buying their narrative anymore. Even best of their friends are trolling them hard now.

One thing that may go down in aviation history is the very bizarre talk where there CAS claimed 12 PAF jets shot down by S-400 "JF-17 or F-16"

No one in Indian government has repeated it, not Modi, not any other senior officer. It was never mentioned again. The whole thing stained the uniform of the IAF.

How do they expect international partners to take them seriously. Have your ass handed to you, lose 11 planes according to POTUS then claim as a bizarre (drunken!?) one off you shot down 12 enemy planes.

I enjoyed it and it was great he did it, they had little credibility left, now they have none.