Indian Air Force News and Discussions ll

[Corax]

Yup, going back to a plane you walked away from. Desperate stuff, but India is in a desperate situation.

Russia has no true 5th gen platform, everyone knows that. The only game in town right now is US or Chinese.

India is s**t out of luck here

They walked away from the "stealthy Flanker" because it wasn't stealthy enough, and not enough tech transfer from their best buddies. The Russians are now desperate for cash, so developed the twin seater they wanted. This'll be the su30 all over again, obsolete by they time it rolls off their production line.

 

[Ali_Baba]

PAF claims 6 aircraft destroyed, of which there's abundant pics and videos. Your modi gave away destroyed S400 radar when he decided to do a propaganda show with just the launchers

PAF claims 7 aircraft! Not 6.

4 x Rafales ( BS-001, BS-021, BS-022, and BS-027 ), Su30MKI, Mig-29, Mirage-2000.

 

[Ali_Baba]

They walked away from the "stealthy Flanker" because it wasn't stealthy enough, and not enough tech transfer from their best buddies. The Russians are now desperate for cash, so developed the twin seater they wanted. This'll be the su30 all over again, obsolete by they time it rolls off their production line.

If the Indians had any sense, they would take the airframe, engines, FBW, ie the core platform etc but make sure the entire avionics and electronics suites, and munitions, datalink, ie everything is 100% Indian. i.e. not waste time arguing over workshare of those items. They have enough experience and intellectual property from their Darin projects, Tejas and R&D into AMCA to do that now ( I know we laugh about Indian Software engineering capabilities, but there some very capable people in India that they can use. ).

Lets see how much sense they have.

 

[Jaeger]

What losses specfically? The 16 planes your S-400 claimed to have shot down? Sit the f**k down. IAF admitted it lost planes but will not say how many, do you not find that strange? US reported exact numbers and types it lost just weeks after Iran war.

What is stopping IAF?

Because they want you guys to squirm like you are doing right now.

Pakistan never admits its losses so why should IAF?

You gave an example of US admitting to its losses from the recent Iran-US war. But here you guys are big supporters of Iran. So has Iran disclosed what it has lost during the war?

Has Russia or Ukraine disclosed how many men or equipment have they lost during last 4 years?

 

[peacemaker99]

What losses specfically? The 16 planes your S-400 claimed to have shot down? Sit the f**k down. IAF admitted it lost planes but will not say how many, do you not find that strange? US reported exact numbers and types it lost just weeks after Iran war.

What is stopping IAF?

PAF said no losses. Isnt that stranger?

 

[Yasser76]

PAF said no losses. Isnt that stranger?

Not really. When PAF shot down a MIG-21 we had no losses (India claimed a F-16 with no evidence)

Issue India has is this. IAF has not even specified what type and numbers lost of PAF fighters. There is no official IAF claims, just a speech IAF chief gave about vague PAF losses. So the main issue here is that IAF is not officially claiming any PAF types downed. No times, no locations, no serial numbers, no types.

PAF has on the other hand listed types, locations, serial numbers and exact times of it's IAF kills.

"Isnt that stranger"?

So here is the thing, why does the IAF not give a serial number or specific type and challenge the PAF.

Pak defence minister is ON THE RECORD as saying he is happy to line up the PAF fleet to count if IAF want to do the same. No reply from IAF.

"Isnt that stranger"

No may be a good time to stop humiliating yourself on here, leave that job to your air force.

 

[Yasser76]

If the Indians had any sense, they would take the airframe, engines, FBW, ie the core platform etc but make sure the entire avionics and electronics suites, and munitions, datalink, ie everything is 100% Indian. i.e. not waste time arguing over workshare of those items. They have enough experience and intellectual property from their Darin projects, Tejas and R&D into AMCA to do that now ( I know we laugh about Indian Software engineering capabilities, but there some very capable people in India that they can use. ).

Lets see how much sense they have.

Unfortunately this post was let down by the first 6 words

 

[Yasser76]

Because they want you guys to squirm like you are doing right now.

Pakistan never admits its losses so why should IAF?

You gave an example of US admitting to its losses from the recent Iran-US war. But here you guys are big supporters of Iran. So has Iran disclosed what it has lost during the war?

Has Russia or Ukraine disclosed how many men or equipment have they lost during last 4 years?

Nice try in changing the subject. Why does India simply not list the specific types and serial numbers and locations of PAF losses. PAF has done that with IAF losses

"Because they want you guys to squirm" is the weakest comeback I have ever read to a post on PDF.

It is meaningless. Congrats. Each poster gets more and more desperate

 

[Yasser76]

Not sure what type of copium they're on by they themselves admit at least 5 aircraft lost, it's only the indians obsessed with trying to prove something on here who are too shameless to admit it.

Swamy, Trump, Western Media, Alan Warnes. All of them on ISI payroll saar!

 

[Jaeger]

Nice try in changing the subject. Why does India simply not list the specific types and serial numbers and locations of PAF losses. PAF has done that with IAF losses

"Because they want you guys to squirm" is the weakest comeback I have ever read to a post on PDF.

It is meaningless. Congrats. Each poster gets more and more desperate

Firstly you brought Americans losses into the discussion, so don't talk about changing the subject.

Secondly PAF declaration of tail numbers and type of Indian aircraft lost is not even worth the paper its written on.

Pakistani pilots flying in Pakistan were even able to see the tail numbers of aircraft flying in Indian airspace?

Those are some special- special skills.

Have you ever considered sending your pilots to space to replace the James Webb telescope.

Besides aircrafts with tail numbers that Pakistanis claimed to have shot down have already been seeing flying in India, without a scratch.

 

[Corax]

Firstly you brought Americans losses into the discussion, so don't talk about changing the subject.

Secondly PAF declaration of tail numbers and type of Indian aircraft lost is not even worth the paper its written on.

Pakistani pilots flying in Pakistan were even able to see the tail numbers of aircraft flying in Indian airspace?

Those are some special- special skills.

Have you ever considered sending your pilots to space to replace the James Webb telescope.

Besides aircrafts with tail numbers that Pakistanis claimed to have shot down have already been seeing flying in India, without a scratch.

You clearly have no clue about E/SIGNIT. Wow, so you've proved IAF aircraft can change bort numbers! It's rather like how you clowns flew the "Avenger" call sign aircraft after 2019! I mean, it's not as if call signs can't be transferred, can it! Why did you recently blur out tail numbers of your Rafales?!

 

[Jaeger]

You clearly have no clue about E/SIGNIT. Wow, so you've proved IAF aircraft can change bort numbers! It's rather like how you clowns flew the "Avenger" call sign aircraft after 2019! I mean, it's not as if call signs can't be transferred, can it! Why did you recently blur out tail numbers of your Rafales?!

Clearly I don't have clue about this special Signal intelligence that allows Pakistan pilots to see the tail numbers painted on aircrafts from hundreds of kilometers away.

Why don't you tell us this special-technology you guys have developed.

Are you also able see Eiffel tower from your parents basement in Pakistan?

 

[Corax]

Clearly I don't have clue about this special Signal intelligence that allows Pakistan pilots to see the tail numbers painted on aircrafts from hundreds of kilometers away.

Why don't you tell us this special-technology you guys have developed.

Are you also able see Eiffel tower from your parents basement in Pakistan?

What makes you think it was the pilots having to see the bort numbers? You obviously have no clue about how intelligence works, E/SIGNIT, human, or otherwise.

We could see exactly what your IAF was doing, knew exactly timing and were prepared for it. You can't surprise us. The bort numbers were provided by the PAF after they shot down your aircraft through intelligence gathering using multiple means, E/SIGNIT being just one. They wouldn't release the bort numbers untill they were corroborated by other means. But I don't expect someone who's fe Bollywood cow dung to understand that.

 

[Jaeger]

What makes you think it was the pilots having to see the bort numbers? You obviously have no clue about how intelligence works, E/SIGNIT, human, or otherwise.

So please tell us all about how you found the tail numbers of aircraft which participated in operation Sindoor.

 

[Corax]

So please tell us all about how you found the tail numbers of aircraft which participated in operation Sindoor.

Go ask your air marshal, or write to your BJP leader, he knows more than you.