Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[RescueRanger]

Terrain and weather does a lot of the work there, you know this better than me, I'm quite sure.

Not every single chappa chappa is monitored or manned.

no longer a gentleman's game after Kargil, the SSG could shepherd 'people' / proxies .. call em what you will.. into those gaps.

Only the most hardened fidayeen ones but, khaas daura trained.

Gruesome as it was, this event still feels like weak sauce for making a case for proper war.

Our perps were school shooter types, drugged out their brain.. agent puppet/fall guys, whatever you call em.

The proper ones come ready to die and fight a good fight.

who knows...

Yar I am not some subhuman person who will jump in glee at the deaths of innocent people, I am a medic first and anything else after, we take the oath that starts with the latin words "Primum non nocere" which means at first do no harm.

But I am amazed that India's internal security in that area was so lax, I remember every time there was a terrorist incident in Pakistan we would get probing questions from Indians inquiring "how" "but how this happened" "no border security?" "why no drones 24/7?"

You see this is just the reflection of how difficult it is to conduct a security operation and keep your readiness at Red for any extended period of time. For a reference to manage a check post you need 3 shifts of 6 people and 1 shift in reserve.

Check posts and managing them quickly drain the human resource of any security force, they also have a mental toll on the solider/cop/guard manning these posts, no one human being can be in condition red all the time.

Remember one thing, security forces have to get things right 100% of the time, the enemy only has to get things right 1% of the time.

This is a lapse in internal security... The questions India should be asking should lean in that direction. Blaming Pakistan doesn't help.

 

[safriz]

Still no attack from oh so mighty India?
Only paying their failed asylum seekers in London to attack Pakistan embassy?
That's disappointing.

 

[Sharma Ji]

And the supply routes from China to Pakistan are short!

not for bulk cargo such as oil and gas/minerals.. or even consumer durables or whatever.

Air is expensive, but yes, they could resupply Pak with munitions and maybe even replace lost assets in a time of war, maybe.

Malacca strait is their maritime 'chicken neck'

The PLA-N's first concerns are regional anyway, USFK, USFJ, others .. Chinese are plenty busy and have bigger fish to either defend against, or fry.. either way..

this is Ind vs Pak, no 3rd parties going to jump in proper, that's for sure.

 

[RescueRanger]

Sorry sir - still I unable to understand what your ecxatly means. Might problem with me because not capable enough to understand.

Point 1. if someone says - it's a false Flag operation if people losss the life in any country, 99% times - no one will buy the story. Only one possible, if someone having solid evidence to proof it.

2nd - india is saying - terrorism is linked with Pakistan. Now question comes if others believe or not.

For an example - even your minister said the same about false flag operation - she asked the same - what is evidence, again, he was trying to talk about Modi, she denied against asked to him, they he turned that india not given evidence that Pakistan involved, again, she third time's asked.

Now, this is what happened - and what you expecting more?

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Sorry sir

No need to apologise to me.

Point 1. if someone says - it's a false Flag operation if people losss the life in any country, 99% times - no one will buy the story. Only one possible, if someone having solid evidence to proof it.

Still waiting on evidence to support this, yet to see any

2nd - india is saying - terrorism is linked with Pakistan. Now question comes if others believe or not.

See answer above.

again, she third time's asked.

because no evidence has been provided, where is the dossier? A matchbox is not evidence meray dost.

Now, this is what happened - and what you expecting more?

I think what India was expecting was diplomatic pressure on Pakistan, and overt support for India, this did not materialise.

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This video was the perfect slap in the face to the duplicitous west. He said the right thing, which is why the WHITE HOUSE and No.10 HAVE NOT replied or rebuked him. Because they know, we can open the bag and show them the mirror ANYTIME they want to see it!

 

[r3alist]

Watching this stuff on Indian media(and Indian media in general) will rot your brain for sure. It is a self-reinforcing echo chamber of the arrogant, self important illterate hate clowns that are self indulgent in their own self-perceived importance and totally devoid of context, facts or history.

I'll give a summary

Declare India supports Baluchistan nationhood

Assume this is a china Pak attempt during trade wars to harm Indian economy

Indians are too meek in response.....but but we got Sikhs....the Sikhs will fight (the rest?)

Have a plan to control 50% water by 2050

Medium term war needed , talveen against harming farmers

Worried about china can do with water




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Forget china, back to Pakistan old days

 

[Sharma Ji]

Quite absurd, this whole idea that China 'needs' Pakistan and can bypass the seas and do it all by land.. the sea trade.

It will never ever ever happen, biggest of cargo jahaj kitna utha sakta ? .. and at what cost ?

ab sea route ka bhi check karein..

there's a reason why India is so focused on the navy.

 

[RescueRanger]

biggest of cargo jahaj kitna utha sakta ? .. and at what cost ?

Sea route is not needed.

 

[Meengla]

not for bulk cargo such as oil and gas/minerals.. or even consumer durables or whatever.
Air is expensive, but yes, they could resupply Pak with munitions and maybe even replace lost assets in a time of war, maybe.
Malacca strait is their maritime 'chicken neck'
The PLA-N's first concerns are regional anyway, USFK, USFJ, others .. Chinese are plenty busy and have bigger fish to either defend against, or fry.. either way..
this is Ind vs Pak, no 3rd parties going to jump in proper, that's for sure.

Pakistanis are not going to lob carrots into India. Missiles would be launched and there is indeed a short route between China and Pakistan.
And why bring the Malacca Strait into this? Didn't I say that China is not facing any hot war currently?
Again, for China to simply loan or sell on deferred payments a huge amount of military hardware would be significant 'investment' to cripple India. Pennies on the Dollar, as they say!

 

[r3alist]

So funny listening to people like this, he talks like a 'maharaja' who was told he was better than everyone around him from the day his was born and acts accordingly. He has so much arrogance, he can probably bottle it and sell it to the rest of the world...

I think he is mocking the entire situation, those words I feel ....he feels ....are beneath him


Blood will flow, but a bit more there.... Come on that is not a war cry but a career diplomat appeasing the national mood with the least savage statement he could conjure up


No need to treat everyone the same

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

We don't' expect anything, it is not Pakistan that has boasted of its sphere of control over the narrative, sadly as you will see things have changed.

Sorry sir - still I unable to understand what your ecxatly means. Might problem with me because not capable enough to understand.

Point 1. if someone says - it's a false Flag operation if people losss the life in any country, 99% times - no one will buy the story. Only one possible, if someone having solid evidence to proof it.

2nd - india is saying - terrorism is linked with Pakistan. Now question comes if others believe or not.

For an example - even your minister said the same about false flag operation - she asked the same - what is evidence, again, he was trying to talk about Modi, she denied against asked to him, they he turned that india not given evidence that Pakistan involved, again, she third time's asked.

Now, this is what happened - and what you expecting more

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No need to apologise to me.


Still waiting on evidence to support this, yet to see any


See answer above.


because no evidence has been provided, where is the dossier? A matchbox is not evidence meray dost.


I think what India was expecting was diplomatic pressure on Pakistan, and overt support for India, this did not materialise.

This video was the perfect slap in the face to the duplicitous west. He said the right thing, which is why the WHITE HOUSE and No.10 HAVE NOT replied or rebuked him. Because they know, we can open the bag and show them the mirror ANYTIME they want to see it!

About terrorism — As I’ve mentioned many times, has hard evidence usually no one find because attackers don’t carry cell phones, identity cards, or anything traceable.
Even when Pakistan claims that a bomb blast was carried out by an Afghan national, they usually don't have solid proof — let alone when they claim India is behind it.

Anyway, my main point was this:
No one is going to believe claims that an attack was a false flag operation unless there is strong, undeniable evidence.
Because when a country loses its own people in an attack, it's natural that they believe it was genuine.
If a third country wants to claim otherwise, they must provide proper evidence — whether that third country is India or anyone

 

[r3alist]

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[RescueRanger]

Sorry sir - still I unable to understand what your ecxatly means.

Then my friend there is nothing I can do to help you understand. There is a saying "you can lead a camel to water but you can't drink the water for him.".

I hope you were able to "Understand" the above parable?

 

[RescueRanger]

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He said that to a British Journalist - imagine this "thing" threatening a woman with A*** R**E... Actual scumbag, these are the types of cretins that have been emboldened under 56" GODI.

Two 10" chillar is bund per maro, teer ki taran seeda ho jaye ga.

 

[r3alist]

Sorry sir - still I unable to understand what your ecxatly means. Might problem with me because not capable enough to understand.

Point 1. if someone says - it's a false Flag operation if people losss the life in any country, 99% times - no one will buy the story. Only one possible, if someone having solid evidence to proof it.

2nd - india is saying - terrorism is linked with Pakistan. Now question comes if others believe or not.

For an example - even your minister said the same about false flag operation - she asked the same - what is evidence, again, he was trying to talk about Modi, she denied against asked to him, they he turned that india not given evidence that Pakistan involved, again, she third time's asked.

Now, this is what happened - and what you expecting more

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About terrorism — As I’ve mentioned many times, has hard evidence usually no one find because attackers don’t carry cell phones, identity cards, or anything traceable.
Even when Pakistan claims that a bomb blast was carried out by an Afghan national, they usually don't have solid proof — let alone when they claim India is behind it.

Anyway, my main point was this:
No one is going to believe claims that an attack was a false flag operation unless there is strong, undeniable evidence.
Because when a country loses its own people in an attack, it's natural that they believe it was genuine.
If a third country wants to claim otherwise, they must provide proper evidence — whether that third country is India or anyone

Why do so many indulge this one? He is not even a good troll...or ever funny... just consistently meh, long winded meh

 

[r3alist]

He said that to a British Journalist - imagine this "thing" threatening a woman with A*** R**E... Actual scumbag, these are the types of cretins that have been emboldened under 56" GODI.

Two 10" chillar is bund per maro, teer ki taran seeda ho jaye ga.

She would knock the princess out of his dress