Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[RescueRanger]

Civil Defence Azad Kashmir impart emergency training to School children:

 

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جب تک امریکی حکومت اپنے شہریوں کو انڈیا اور پاکستان چھوڑنے کا نہیں کہتی تب تک جنگ کا کوئی امکان
نہیں ہے، لوگ میمز کی جنگ کو ہی انجوئے کریں ۔

Looking at trump's response I don't think they will ask anything of their citizens either. He also seemed fed up of India throwing its tantrums every 4 years.

 

[RescueRanger]

Looking at trump's response I don't think they will ask anything of their citizens either. He also seemed fed up of India throwing its tantrums every 4 years.

Americans have too many domestic problems atm.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Modi is under tremendous political pressure to do something, and he will likely act, but that doesn't necessarily mean direct action against Pak.

Action will likely be limited to within our borders, well inside our slice of Kashmir.

 

[Abdul q]

Looking at trump's response I don't think they will ask anything of their citizens either. He also seemed fed up of India throwing its tantrums every 4 years.

USA arrested indian terrorists last year who were planning to kill sikhs canada style assassination …. They know who terrorists are… especially im Canada’s case where their investigation resulted in clear evidence against terrorists from india

 

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[Abdul q]

Modi is under tremendous political pressure to do something, and he will likely act, but that doesn't necessarily mean direct action against Pak.

Action will likely be limited to within our borders, well inside our slice of Kashmir.

Gurpatwant Singh Pannu: US charges ex-India agent in Sikh separatist murder plot

The US Justice department has charged Vikash Yadav, a former Indian intelligence officer, in the alleged plot.

www.bbc.com

Never forget who actual terrorist is.. canada and US are both victims of indian state sponsored terror

 

[Taimoor]

My post wasn’t meant to delve into politics, but with all due respect, (esp) in Pakistan’s context, separating geopolitics from domestic politics is neither practical nor accurate... History shows that whenever political legitimacy is under question, be it due to an unpopular regime or mounting civil-military tensions, heightened tensions with India are often used as a convenient distraction and a means to suppress dissent.... I trust you understand the nuance...

And I trust the management here to resist the temptation of using similar pretexts to muffle dissent or sideline democratic voices....

Absolutely, the way things are going, the initial voices of looking things from local compulsions and politics have come forth again. Daal main kuch kala hai, ya poori daal hai kali hai. A lot of things are not making sense. Since the regime change, India has been very happy with things going within Pakistan. All that RSS/BJP/Nazi narrative was rolled back by the current regime. At the time when this externally supported regime in Pakistan is under domestic pressure, the timing of all this is very convenient. You rub my back I rub yours?

Whatever comes out of this, we should never make heros out of those who have committed crimes against their own people. UK dispatched Churchill, their war hero, when his utility ended after WW2.

 

[lightning f57]

@HRK

These are the two projections that the US had theorised in the worst case scenario of their war-gaming where Indian were to target Pakistan's strategic assets:
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Note that the resulting fallout and ecological damage beyond Pakistan made these "non-feasible" and then 1998 happened!

In 2008 WACCM used the NCAR model to stimulate Global environmental effects of a regional nuclear war.

"A regional nuclear conflict between India and Pakistan would not only inflict immediate damage in the subcontinent, including massive loss of life and destruction of built infrastructure; severe long-term environmental damage would also spread globally, lasting decades, researchers have found.

In a paper published in the AGU journal Earth’s Future, NCAR Atmospheric Chemistry Division project scientists Michael Mills and Julia Lee-Taylor and their colleagues present the first study of such a scenario to use an Earth system model including coupled interactions between atmospheric chemistry and dynamics, ocean dynamics, sea ice and land components.

They studied a scenario in which India and Pakistan each detonate 50 small nuclear weapons, about half of their current arsenals, in modern megacities, igniting fires that would build for hours after the explosions.

The fires would build into firestorms consuming buildings, vegetation, roads, fuel depots, and other infrastructure, releasing energy many times that of the weapon’s yield, generating 5 Tg of smoke in the form of black carbon (BC).

Calculations using version 1.0 of the Community Earth System Model (CESM1), with the Whole Atmosphere Community Climate Model (WACCM) show that the BC would self-loft to the stratosphere, where it would spread globally, producing the coldest average surface temperatures in the last 1000 years.

Killing frosts would reduce growing seasons by 10-40 days per year for 5 years. The figure shows how CESM1(WACCM) calculates that the BC would remain in the stratosphere (panel a) reducing solar fluxes to the surface (panel b) for nearly 2 decades, much longer than previous studies of the same scenario with other models, due to interaction of the radiation, chemistry, and dynamics calculated in the coupled model. Surface temperatures (panel c) and precipitation (panel d) would be reduced for more than 25 years, due to thermal inertia and albedo effects in the ocean and expanded sea ice.

Previous studies did not include both full ocean dynamics and atmospheric chemistry, and found that these disruptive effects on surface climate would last about 10 years.

At the same time, intense heating of the stratosphere would cause global ozone losses of 20%-50% over populated areas, levels unprecedented in human history.

The authors calculate summer enhancements in damaging ultraviolet radiation of 30%-80% over mid-latitudes, suggesting widespread damage to human health, agriculture, and terrestrial and aquatic ecosystems.

The combined cooling and enhanced UV would put significant pressures on global food supplies and could trigger a global nuclear famine. The authors also note that the 100 relatively small nuclear bombs in the study represent just a small fraction of the world’s approximately 17,000 nuclear weapons.

Source: Mills, M. J., O. B. Toon, J. Lee-Taylor, and A. Robock (2014), Multi-decadal global cooling and unprecedented ozone loss following a regional nuclear conflict, Earth's Future, n/a–n/a, doi:10.1002/2013EF000205

That reads like end of the world type damage.

 

[RescueRanger]

That reads like end of the world type damage.

Indeed it is, which is why having two nuclear armed nations stand off against each other is in no one's benefit. All this bluster from the Indian's to "wipe Pakistan off the map"... Is just that, "Bluster".

 

[Meengla]

True that, so far you have unleashed, Arnab Gobarswami, Major Gobar Aya and General Kumbakhti ....Bollywood take 6 months to a year to release something, we are already not playing cricket so the only option left for you is do another false flag record the whole event and tell your public this took place inside Pakistan.

"General Kumbakthi'. Hahahaha!!
Seriously speaking: What IF there is some CIA arrangement to allow both countries to target some empty buildings and call it 'victory' and de-escalate??

 

[Taimoor]

Discuss Imran Khan in political section. Nobody is stopping you. But when members start deviating from the topic, it comes with baggage of troll posts

Discuss whatever you like in relevant threads, this thread is focused on the current tension of Pakistan-India conflict

Thats absoultely fine, but apply that at those who are using this thread as a PR for that rat Asim Muneer. This is about Pakistan and its people, not some 22nd grader.

 

[RescueRanger]

Are you retard mode?
This aint no PS5 game - this is for real. Wives daughters and mothers will lose loved ones and you want 2 nuke nations to "test" **** sake man get a grip and stop thinking this is Fortnite........

He has been playing too much CS GO or whatever new game the kids play these days.

 

[RescueRanger]

Khalistan, an old pet ISI project.

The obsession level is peak... I am so glad that this one agency lives rent free in many Indian heads.

 

[r3alist]

"General Kumbakthi'. Hahahaha!!
Seriously speaking: What IF there is some CIA arrangement to allow both countries to target some empty buildings and call it 'victory' and de-escalate??

Was about to post this

This might sound counter initiative but Pak should consider this to give India an off ramp to help normality return and help pak

But Nothing too generous