Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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you seem to be the one gloating over the loss of 27 lives, since it gives you an excuse to continue gloating over the magnitudes more lost on our side
No sir, that's you trying impose your feelings on me. I for one have never gloated over any human life lost, whether it be Indian or not. I don't have to provide a certificate to anyone.

Needless to say, I won't shed a tear when the perpetrators get their just dues.
 
oh, so you are one of those weird 14 year olds who believes india can take an inch of Kashmir from Pakistan

Kashmir valley is completely inside India, pakistan has Gilgit, Baltistan and Jammu areas of erstwhile Jammu and Kahsmir princely Hindu Dogra state …

I just want some good old constant battle on LOC … big guns, drones, anti tank missiles
 
If you two are done being the snake that eats it’s own tail.

The key question still remains on who benefits from such a horrific act?

Let’s say this happens on any ordinary sunday with no visits or otherwise - what is the impact and reaction if we leave the nutjob goswamis and other hawks out..

And what is the impact of it now
Hard to say, but looks like Pakistani Establishment will be the biggest benefactor as of now.. in this fog of incident.

They are in dire straits as they are in need of validation from the Pakistani Public, which is a new dilemma for them. Any retaliation from our side, in passion will give them exactly what they need.

But then who knows? What if the terror groups have been orphaned by Establishment, and somehow found a way to find relevance with this event? Everyone can see that the old heads being bumped off, couldn't happen without the support of Establishment and the ceasefire somehow holds steady through all these incidents.

I will throw in a new twist: With the kind of penetration China has into GB , could they try to become new Daddy's of these groups for benefit? Whole world is under pressure, whether its self relevance or tariff war.

We will have to wait for now.....
 
Hope that there is no cease fire violations along the LOC, no suicide attack in Lahore or Karachi or any other massive attack in Balochistan.. any of these attacks will be very obvious reaction..

Time for India to be more creative in response..
There should be no reaction at this time, but for diplomatic one. Let cooler heads remain..

Hit only when its time, not before or after.
 
There is a home grown insurgency in Kashmir who wants independence, while India completely ignore the resistance and blame everything on Pakistan, while on their media and on Govt level fully support BLA, when BLA target civilians Indians cheer up and even call BLA terrorists freedom fighters, while openly talking about Independent Balochistan, and when a Attack happen on their civilians by Kashmiri fighters, somehow Pakistan needs to be Punished ? The whole nation is beyond repair and much needed of a reality check.
 
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400KM away from border. Its either local or false flag attack. Remember when India massacred 35 sikhs in Kashmir to blame on Pakistan? BJP can do anything to win elections. They almost lost last election.

In either case prepare your baburs and ghaznavis to hit delhi and mumbai just in case. No more fake surgi kal strikes please.
 
There is a home grown insurgency in Kashmir who wants independence, while India completely ignore the resistance and blame everything on Pakistan, while on their media and on Govt level fully support BLA, when BLA target civilians Indians cheer up and even call BLA terrorists freedom fighters, while openly talking about Independent Balochistan, and when a Attack happen on their civilians by Kashmiri fighters, somehow Pakistan needs to be Punished ? The whole nation is beyond repair and much needed of a reality check.

Last two sir gi kal strikes have shown how far India is willing to go, basically nowhere apart from dramabazi for bollywood and sanghi votes.
 
By that logic, Pakistan should’ve been partitioned properly too starting with a free Balochistan, a sovereign Sindhudesh, and maybe even a Pashtunistan. Why should ethnic aspirations be trampled under the boot of one dominant group? You cry about Muslims in India while your own country can’t stop disappearing journalists, bombing its own citizens, and silencing anyone asking for basic autonomy.

Funny how the same people who scream about Indian Muslims being "trapped" have no empathy for the Baloch literally being hunted like animals. Clean up your own house before giving partition lectures.

All those places have their own governments led by people from their own province, the faith, culture of the people is implemented and represented in the province and the state,

It's not India where Indian Muslims homes, history, culture and even historical places names are under attack

Their is a good reason why partition of India is the only option
 
Hard to say, but looks like Pakistani Establishment will be the biggest benefactor as of now.. in this fog of incident.

They are in dire straits as they are in need of validation from the Pakistani Public, which is a new dilemma for them. Any retaliation from our side, in passion will give them exactly what they need.

But then who knows? What if the terror groups have been orphaned by Establishment, and somehow found a way to find relevance with this event? Everyone can see that the old heads being bumped off, couldn't happen without the support of Establishment and the ceasefire somehow holds steady through all these incidents.

I will throw in a new twist: With the kind of penetration China has into GB , could they try to become new Daddy's of these groups for benefit? Whole world is under pressure, whether its self relevance or tariff war.

We will have to wait for now.....
If you see social media and mood on ground - it is MUCH more difficult to change than perception with such acts.
One of the FIRST comments on a news article on this was “Drama by ISI” - so this doesn’t make sense as a move.

The orphaned group idea does hold value since they are likely more to focus on non-combatants because it’s an easier target.

However , this does play into the idea of “Kashmir isn’t solved” which BJP has been pushing.

Lets see the optics of it -
Vance sees Kashmir needs to be solved , buys into Pakistan is sponsoring it and goes on a statement - establishment reacts and says its an issue.

In parallel Modi lands in KSA - sees this - talks to MBS who is looking to court Indian money and investment AND reciprocate - sends a message to establishment who say “it’s not us but we told you it wasn’t dead”

From a strategic perspective it’s a very pointless move(and not saying PK hasn’t done some idiotic pointless moves) but it has little impact domestically


UNLESS
India launches an all out conflict -
Not limited strikes - not tit for tat because it doesn’t kill the anti army sentiment Ive personally measured on the ground.

So I don’t see a wider conspiracy here but more so a case of either independent cell or independent actors.

Remember, what’s lost on all the angry folks here is that any larger conspiracy is difficult to keep under wraps due to moving pieces.
 
Two foreign tourists the rest Indian nationals visiting?
I feel for the loss of people.
Could be a lone wolf who just went nuts and opened fire on anyone coming to the region.
I doubt this is something cooked up by an outfit.
 
Last two sir gi kal strikes have shown how far India is willing to go, basically nowhere apart from dramabazi for bollywood and sanghi votes.
They can't even their own hypocrisy, they are not America or Israel, but they pretend to be some supa powa, without any probe or investigation somehow Pakistan is involved? Stupidity runs rampant in India since Modi took charge.
 
RSS didn't cause the partition. The violence of direct action day did.

What does partition have to do with what I said?

Partition was caused by congress refusing to give Muslims a dignified life under a south Asian federation.
 
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