Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[TallGuy]

Massive pressure on Pakistan - less so on India.

it makes PAF trigger happy -i worried this time they will come soon.

 

[Davey Crockett]

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[gamaji]

You have to hand it to how much he is trying to make stuff up - I dont like IK but at least he had more of a voice than Silent Sharif and company in this puppet government.

Only having more of a voice doesn't work. Competency does, whic he is completely deprived of. And in terms of voice, what IK's voice we heard after Modi ended the special status of Indian Occupied J&K? Kia India se jang karoon?

 

[SteppeWolff]

Next step-divert chenab fully to punjab and rajasthan, no more feeding the terrorists.

Try it ****.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

it can now be sold that India truly means existential harm to all of Pakistan, with this sudden abrupt action, the one treaty that was respected for long suddenly gone

It's a raw power move discarding all international standards, it may not have huge consequence but the manner of its announcement does

Basically proves Pakistan army right. India was always going to do something with our water. Now this should be very good case for Pakistan on international stage. Rona dona Indian style.

Make it all about IWT, put so called attack on back burner.

 

[Meengla]

Every tom, dick and harry knows that suspending IWT will not have any effect in the near future rather than a symbolic gesture. So I call it a hogwash. TBH, I was expecting some completely different type of response, far severe ones. But it appears GoI is no mood to engage in a way, which will effect it's economic growth. Rather it has chosen a different path.

You are walking away from an internationally backed Treat which has stood the test of time for 65 years. I don't call it a 'hog wash'. It maybe very difficult for you to divert the flow of Indus River right now but technology is improving and with no legal restrictions on you, one day you MIGHT try that because you'd have no restrictions.
As I said, India had other options, including calling its ambassador back to India and other options.

INDIAN Muslims have their own land and areas and they can establish safe areas there

I have one last serviving uncle left in India and literally dozens of first cousins and their kids. They live in fear. They are not some Muslim 'jihadis': They own small manufacturing, retail, restaurant businesses and the younger ones are even in IT jobs. But I hear accounts of them living in fear in Modi's India; they tell their fears to my family in Karachi.
It is a historic folly of the Modi regime to use Hindutva as a tool for political advancement.

 

[Arsalan45]

Very important point. Indian airlines will burn more fuel and more money if pakistan closes its airspace for them. This looks like a good option to teach them a lesson. Pakistan should focus on other stuff as well like closing kartarpur permanently.

Think about more such options that will hurt india indirectly. Persuading china to stop flow of water in india. This will put india in a beggar like situation. If they can do water terrorism then we have no option but to take our own decisions. Start with kartarpur. Possible attack on Indian nationals in Afghanistan and tagging them as terrorists is a good option. Start with Afghanistan. Search Indians in Afghanistan. Do some strikes. Another important step is to publicly declare all of Kashmir as Pakistani territory which is not consistent with previous policies. Send them notice to vacate iok. Declare Kashmir as integral part of pakistan for optics and build a narrative around it.

Some sabotage operations should also be considered but I don’t want to openly discuss it.

 

[SteppeWolff]

Only having more of a voice doesn't work. Competency does, whic he is completely deprived of. And in terms of voice, what IK's voice we heard after Modi ended the special status of Indian Occupied J&K? Kia India se jang karoon?

Apna political chooran idher na becho; see the thread title.

 

[Meengla]

Is the Indus Waters Treaty the latest India-Pakistan flashpoint?

India wants to renegotiate the 64-year-old pact under which the neighbours split water from six Himalayan rivers.

www.aljazeera.com

Indian media reports say that on September 18, India sent a formal notice to Pakistan, citing various concerns, including changes in population demographics, environmental challenges, and other factors, asking for a reassessment of the treaty.

Just a reminder from a few months ago, India has long been looking for an excuse to exit the Indus Waters Treaty, and it seems they’ve either found or created one.

Good post. Thanks for letting us know.

 

[SteppeWolff]

Very important point. Indian airlines will burn more fuel and more money if pakistan closes its airspace for them. This looks like a good option to teach them a lesson. Pakistan should focus on other stuff as well like closing kartarpur permanently.

Think about more such options that will hurt india indirectly. Persuading china to stop flow of water in india. This will put india in a beggar like situation. If they can do water terrorism then we have no option but to take our own decisions. Start with kartarpur. Possible attack on Indian nationals in Afghanistan and tagging them as terrorists is a good option. Start with Afghanistan. Search Indians in Afghanistan. Do some strikes. Another important step is to publicly declare all of Kashmir as Pakistani territory which is not consistent with previous policies. Send them notice to vacate iok. Declare Kashmir as integral part of pakistan for optics and build a narrative around it.

Some sabotage operations should also be considered but I don’t want to openly discuss it.

Closing airspace for Indian Airlines, hitting them everywhere in Afghanistan and IIOJK, randomly stopping/harrassing Indian cargo ships coming out from Strait of Hormuz, closing Kartapur etc should be the bare minimums. Anything less would be us just being pussies.

 

[imadul]

Can’t keep hiding behind your failed nation narrative.

Either you need to kick them out or starvation is coming.

Pakistanis have mounted the greatest ever struggle against the Lord Clive Army of Pakistan.

On the other hand, shining India India has accepted RSS Hindu fascism plunging the country to an abysmal place for all minorities.

Only silver lining, racist and mad Indians are happy in this state of affairs.

 

[r3alist]

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Can’t keep hiding behind your failed nation narrative.

Either you need to kick them out or starvation is coming.

Starvation coming?

You guys really do wish you were Israel

I think people to people relations will take a real hit

Openly and casually wishing the gaza-fication of a nation cannot be considered just delusion of a few

We want to starve you......err ok how do you come back from that...yikes

 

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[gamaji]

The current situation is far more volatile than before—and risks spiraling out of control. The fact that civilians, not military personnel, were targeted in the recent attack has created enormous pressure on the Modi government to retaliate against Pakistan. If they don't respond, that national outrage could turn inward, leading to widespread civil unrest. ( Against Muslims)

On the other hand, if India does launch a strike, Pakistan’s military—already under intense internal pressure due to ongoing domestic repression—may be compelled to respond in kind.


What comes next could be chaos, miscalculation, and dangerous escalation—with consequences neither side can fully control. This might spiral into a nightmare scenario for millions of people on both sides of the border.

At this point, it feels like the die is cast. The region has always struggled with jingoism, impulse, and a lack of rational restraint—and now we’re staring down the barrel of those very flaws.

It seems you think this terrorist attack was done by Pakistan? There are absolutely no pointers suggesting that Pakistan might have done that. Contrarily, all pointers are indicating that it was done by Indian agencies just like they did in Pulwama in 2019 (election stunt), Varanasi in 2010 (Obama's India visit) and 2006 (Bush's India visit). They did the same evil thing in 2000 too (Clinton's India visit). How it could happen when J&K is under the 700,000 occupying Indian troops?

 

[the vicious kind]

The treaty is suspended- do what you have to do.

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To all Indian deluded by the Cool Aid being shoved by the Arnabs and likes :
While India exercises full control over the eastern rivers—Ravi, Beas, and Sutlej—utilizing over 95% of its 33 MAF (~40.7 BCM) share with significant dam infrastructure (~21.19 BCM storage capacity), the situation is vastly different when it comes to the western rivers.

The Indus, Jhelum, and Chenab carry around 135 MAF (~166.5 BCM) annually, but India’s existing infrastructure on these rivers is limited to just 3.6 MAF (~4.4 BCM)—mostly for run-of-the-river hydropower, not large-scale diversion or storage.

Simply put : The current infrastructure simply doesn’t exist to hold or divert such massive volumes. Any attempt to alter flow at scale would require years of construction, face international legal hurdles, and risk serious geopolitical fallout and even nuclear escalation