Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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Why are you so worried when we mention China?
Fir wohi circular argument logical fallacy ?
Don't you guys always remind the world of Pakistani Chinese two front war danger? Your own Indian analysts are obsessed with China Pakistan cooperation. Don't the Indian analysts claim that CPEC is terrible? Why can the Indians constantly talk about China Pakistan cooperation, but we cannot in the context of Indian water terrorism?
Ok.

So, in your assessment, should serious military hostilities break out between India and Pak, on a scale of 1 to 10..

how confident are you that the Chinese will militarily intervene because sweetest honey theory ?
 
Pakistan better ups its security threat level.

Chances are good the Indians will activate their cells in Balochistan and Karachi to create distractions.

There are many more Kulbushan Yadavs lingering within Pakistan territor. The Indians keep shouting terrorist but turn a blind eye on state terrorism in J&K, support of TTP, BLA or their home grown RSS thats effectively an arm of BJP.

People living in glass houses.

Karachi militant problem was solved some years ago. Now 99% of all terrorist attacks are restricted to KP and Balochistan.

This is what bother India, they want terrorists to attack big cities.

Civilian deaths by terrorism in 2024

Sindh: 15
Punjab: 9
Azad Kashmir: 0
Gilgit: 0
KP: 284
Balochistan: 273


KP can be taken care of by putting pressure on Afghan taliban.

Balochistan is more complicated as India is funding and providing material to carry out attacks. For this Pakistan need to become hard state. And also put pressure on Iran to not act as Indian proxy.
 
Obviously, both the Indians and Pakistanis on the PDF have a serious lack of understanding of China's military and strategic thinking.

There is no doubt that if India invades Pakistan, China will definitely provide assistance. But this kind of help does not necessarily mean sending troops directly to fight. We have many other ways to deal with it. We have no interest in armed invasion of India.
As for the United States. If the United States is willing to send troops directly to help India, we are very happy to send troops directly to fight. ------ A direct war between China and the United States on Indian territory is a result that both China and the United States are willing to accept. But India may not be happy.

So, if you like a war of words, please continue. But don't involve the issue of whether China will send troops.
It was a hypothetical point. No country will send boots on the ground to fight on a foreign nation's behalf unless there's an existential crisis. (the Korean war for example for China and the Bangladesh and Sri Lankan wars for India)

The arms point stands, China is an active defence partner of Pakistan. It will supply ammunition and spare parts during a war. Just like Israel and USA would to India.
 
Fir wohi circular argument logical fallacy ?

Ok.

So, in your assessment, should serious military hostilities break out between India and Pak, on a scale of 1 to 10..

how confident are you that the Chinese will militarily intervene because sweetest honey theory ?

Before interrogating me, listen to your own Hindutva leaders. You will understand whether they want peace or war.
 
Pakistan has a strong and a professional army but what is concerning that the higher ups in the military have been focusing on politics (to put it diplomatically) and less on military affairs. This may translate to mediocrity down the chain.

In addition, are the cabal of corrupt form 47 politicians led by Nawaz and Zardari clan. Things can’t look worse than this on the political front.
 
Like you control them by whim and fancy.

I bet they're not eager to jump in this because tall mountain theory.

Why are some Pakistanis here constantly invoking China ?

@MH.Yang is generally quite reasonable in his analysis of issues, also tag some other balanced serious Chinese users to get their thoughts on this.

@Dalit @Lulldapull @r3alist


China is most likely available for help especially if directed at it's interests or they perceive it

Help can be military financial and diplomatic


Of course limits and context , you are right it's not at a whim

China ...usually they want to and will simultaneously help with short term needs, then assist with reducing tensions, no one interested in south Asia big war, generally

You have to look out for China's messaging in the coming weeks, I am not exactly sure myself, there is a fair probability this is being looked at as an attack on china too sll

At the extrema, which is what's being imagined right now, if water is diverted to the point Pakistan suffers, like disease, crop yield, livelihood....china might pressure India enough just to stop escalating tensions


Pakistan is water deficienct as it is, you have global warming, and possibility of natural disaster so this creates an angst for sure, given this was done as a revenge measure after an attack
 
Why are some Pakistanis here constantly invoking China ?

There are unconfirmed claims in Pakistani media that China is preparing to block water flow to India if India stops water flow into Pakistan.

I don't know how credible these claims are.
There is also the (literally) downstream effect on Bangladesh.

P.S. India claims the Pak media claims are false and based on a fake tweet by a Chinese diplomat.

 
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Possible Indian response ka naya thread banao, this one has run its course.

This is turning into a troll fest now. (which is also ok)
Start a new one


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Life of Indian aggression..

-Start blaming Pakistan without any investigate or evidence
-Shout about teaching Pakistan a lesson
-Yell about Final Solution
-Threat of Full scale war & strikes on military targets
-Stop Trading
-No Cricket
-Pani Band (Stop water)
-Firing incidents on LOC
-Claim that we taught Pakistan a lesson, will never dare again
-Claim victory
rinse and repeat.
 
That's for domestic consumption, military industrial complex (ever growing here) also benefits from it, corporate houses involved hain, TATA, Reliance, L&T, Mahindra.. many.

Big market for military gear out there, not just these few countries everyone keeps talking about.. there's maybe a 100+ where one can do business.

China got a big slice of it, Russia and US been taking chunks out of India, India would like to get more into the lucrative South American and African markets. Iran, Turkey, Israel, EU, Korea.. lotta players

It is a business.
 
China, at best will continue logistics support to Pakistan and heaten up the border with India at the LAC near Ladakh.

That is where the support will end.

The Chinese are smarter than Indian & Pakistanis. These folks are competing with the Americans and have set a multi decade program to become a superpower.
 
Don't dig trenches.. dig some Wells
It's happening.
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Good targets for our missiles.
 
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