Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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Study in 'relative' terms. Yes, Pakistan has a lot more to lose than Gazans/Yemenis but India will have much larger to lose than Pakistan: Decades of India's growth, business confidence, investors, foreign interests, tourism etc would be lost. Advantage China.
BTW, I have yet to advocate in this thread that Pakistan to launch some pre-emptive strike. I have carefully used 'if push comes to shove' like caveats. BUT I have suggested a strategy to conduct that full war, should it happen, in such a way to avoid the nuclear threshold, which will be a modified version of Operation Gibraltar 1965 except this time the options for Pakistan would be in a 'do or die' situation and this time there will be much more support in IOK. And I stand by that strategy.


Pakistan would suffer multiples more, they won't be able to get near most economic centres

And India is integrated into global supply chains, it's a systemically important country globally and the world will not tolerate prolonged disruption and 1.6 billion south Asians more backwards than they were before 🙃

In this scenario, you end up at the same place afterward.....focus on your growth and development and society again


As soon as Pakistan becomes a more robust state socially and economically, it's game over for India, they can't undo a nuclear armed strong military and internally strong nation , they won't bother as much

Their major strategy here is to make it so dysfunctional and internally chaotic that it splits de facto if not de jure, internal and external pressure

Being so openly pro bla and Taliban they are advocating all the sanghis to push the agenda


If for example internal infrastructure can be built to negate adverse manipulation of ivt they will have to be even more blatant to make water an issue

The essence of the struggle here is consistent planning, implementation and robustness of your nation....it's just that Pakistanis don't do this as a matter of normal practice and habit so go to war scenarios
 
There are reports that Indian Navy chickened out and Indian AC Vikrant was forced to run back to karwar Indian naval base. Cowards after Pakistan tested some missiles (a Notam was in effect yesterday).
 
As a staunch friend and all-weather strategic partner, China fully understands Pakistan's reasonable security concerns and supports Pakistan in safeguarding its sovereignty and security interests. China supports an impartial investigation as soon as possible.

Those are the most important words: "Sovereignty' and 'impartial investigation'; the latter is a clear endorsement of what the Govt of Pakistan has offered about the Pahalgam attack and which India, at least as of now, is refusing.
 
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@Davey Crockett

By posting this link, you just almost made me puke within first few seconds and I left that video!

https://rumble.com/v5qx3k8-codex-*****-ii-india-the-worst-country-on-earth.html
 
There are reports that Indian Navy chickened out and Indian AC Vikrant was forced to run back to karwar Indian naval base. Cowards after Pakistan tested some missiles (a Notam was in effect yesterday).

What is interesting is that India was not aware of this capability at all - otherwise it would have aleady been factored into their decision making cycle, which it was not ...
 
I think Indians are quite wary of Turkish drone supplies to Pakistan.
They seem to respect Turkish systems more than Chinese systems. The is also the impression that India wants to carry out a limited strike, but in doing so will have to employ every electronic capability it has built up or can procure.

They chide Pakistan for procure from outside suppliers but in the world of electronic warfare, they do the same. The turn around time for Turkish and Chinese suppliers has accelerated and if the US and Israel and France are giving cutting edge systems to India, it just incentivizes our two largest suppliers to send some of their best EW equipment to counter it.

The Turks have been studying Russian and NATO equipment in the field in Ukraine, as well as Israeli equipment in the current war. The Chinese probably have very good knowledge of Iranian missiles and their efficacy, especially the hypersonic gliders, and how to overcome jamming and air defenses.

It is will come down to what each side can field and adapt, should the conflict endure.
 
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that’s so true

India will never do neutral investigation as they have already blamed Pakistan for it.

Pakistan is incapable of doing neutral investigation so it’s a deadend
Pakistani offer asked for a third party neutral investigations, e.g. by the UN. Indians need to use their brain. Pakistan mentioned a neutral body and obviously India or Pakistan cannot be the one.
 
Israel is my main worry about India-Pakistan rivalry. Pakistan can deal with India, has been dealing with India for decades. But Israelis bring potentially game changing intelligence sharing, American influence, and advanced weaponry, which also include AI and Israelis have been in hot wars so they also bring the experience.
Pakistan is aware of all that and has tried to keep a lower profile on the Middle East conflicts. Pakistan can't afford to give India any more advantages then what India already possesses.


It's always a double game there

Israel has got Indians emotionally and psychologically twinned with Israeli thinking

That's a breach of sovereignty really...but Indians have always had a quiet admirations for Israel they were discreet enough to keep it quiet

Not now, all in


So very nice of India to offer itself up as a sponge for some generational reputational cost
 
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