Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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Agha Sher said:
While the initial number of troops, tanks, aircrafts are in india's favor, a sustained conflict is a losing fight for them. They simply do not have capable allies. China and Turkey will supply Pakistan with millions of shells, ammunition, FPV & suicide drones as well as guided munitions. Pakistan will simply massacre india in a conflict.
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100% correct. What's troubling for India is the fact that Türkiye and China are capable of keeping Pakistan's military 'afloat'. India's logistics, industrial mass production capacity, and long-term strategic planning are severely lacking of strategic depth.

They themselves placed the nation in a challenging position that hinders its ability to sustain a prolonged war of attrition with Pakistan.
 
Eşbah said:
They are mad because Türkiye doesn't sell them weapons?!


From the same article:

Turkey’s ‘Asia Anew’ is harming India​

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Take Pakistan, for instance. After Western nations ceased their weapons exports to Islamabad, Turkey became the only other significant supplier besides China. While China was already arming Pakistan extensively, Turkey stepped in to further bolster its defence capabilities.

What’s more troubling is that Turkey has completely banned the sale of military equipment to India. This policy, which had not been officially announced, came to light unintentionally during a Foreign Affairs Committee meeting on 10 July 2024. During the session, Mustafa Murat Seker, deputy head of Turkey’s top arms procurement body, the Presidency of Defence Industries (SSB), disclosed that Turkey had quietly enforced this restriction on India.

Unlike Chinese weapons, which are not battle-tested, Turkish arms are modern, combat-proven, and highly advanced. They have been effectively deployed in various recent conflicts, including the Armenia-Azerbaijan war and the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war, making them far more credible and effective.

Like China, Turkey’s involvement also goes beyond conventional arms sales. Similar to China’s playbook of manipulating information, Turkey has been covertly helping Pakistan build a sophisticated cyber force. This cyber unit is reportedly tasked with shaping narratives, influencing Muslim communities in Southeast Asia, conducting digital attacks on the US and India, and shielding Pakistan’s leadership from international criticism. These operations are believed to have been underway since at least 2022.

Turkey’s influence is also growing in Bangladesh. In 2022—the year Dhaka signed a defence cooperation agreement with China—it also entered into a similar pact with Turkey. This parallel deepening of ties with both Beijing and Ankara underscores a strategic shift in Bangladesh’s foreign policy posture.

While arms producers naturally seek markets for their products, what sets China and Turkey apart is the coordinated and aggressive nature of their support to India’s regional adversaries. The fact that they are not just selling weapons but also actively working to influence public opinion, destabilise India’s digital domain, and challenge its regional standing makes their actions a significant and evolving threat to India’s national security.

For a long-term strategy on Pakistan to work, India has to keep its guard up on the dirty games played by its backers and enablers.
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Well, you got it absolutely spot on. That is the Indians for you.
 
NA71 said:
Even if the war clouds diminish ....one thing comes out of the situation..... .....Pakistan must grow its Air force capabilities......thats what currenly holding back India.....
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They will, hopefully it won't be too long when PAF receives deliveries of J35 twin engined stealth jets that will change the game altogether.
 
Rationale said:
What specific strategic reason ? How will invading Indian territory help China get access to water ? China is an upper riparian state relative to India. They can just dam the flow of water. Why initiate a war ?
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You’re right that China is the upper riparian state and already controls the headwaters of major rivers like the Brahmaputra, Indus, and Sutlej. Technically, they can and are building dams to control water flow without needing to invade India. Here are the strategic reasons beyond simply controlling the water:
  1. Geographical Control: While China can dam water on its side, controlling critical regions like Arunachal Pradesh would allow them to influence even more of the downstream flow and river systems, giving them a greater physical and political advantage. Some tributaries and vulnerable ecosystems lie closer to Indian territory.
  2. Buffer Zone Creation: China often uses territorial expansion to create "buffer zones" for security. Capturing disputed territories like Tawang (in Arunachal Pradesh) could help China secure key river systems and strengthen its defensive depth against Indian military presence.
  3. Leverage in Future Negotiations: By occupying water-rich or strategically important areas, China could use control over water not just as a physical asset, but as political leverage against India during broader geopolitical negotiations.
  4. Internal Stability: Access to fresh water is a critical national security issue for China, especially in Tibet and its dry northern provinces. Securing more sources physically, even if it looks excessive, is a way of guaranteeing water access in case of future droughts, climate change, or tensions with India.

  5. China doesn’t necessarily need to invade for water today, but long-term strategic thinking — control, leverage, security — could make it tempting in a worst-case conflict scenario.
 
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Distant_Observer said:
Are we seeing the beginnings of the Munir doctrine?

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They made their bed, let them lie in it.
 
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