Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[Meengla]

Pakistan due to being islamic cannot tolerate Hindus living freely outside the control of islam. Living as second class citizen under islamic rule is just about bearable to them.

You are living decades back mentally. No one in Pakistan thinks like that. There are worries about the Climate Change's impact, the rampant terrorism, the uncontrolled population... the last thing on Pakistanis mind is to subjugate Hindus or anyone else for that matter. Not even the Afghan Taliban are out to conquer and subjugate non Muslims and that's saying a lot.

 

[Cesur]

One has to see history to understand the depressing situation of Pakistan. Whenever there is conflict with India, it was Pakistan that lost big. Only in the early 1990s could Pakistan use expandable jihadis to do it's bidding against India, which was extremely cost effective at hurting India. Congress govt of India was also pro peace during that time and hence did not exact cost against Pakistan.

Now the situation is different, BJP govt is agressive, they understand the ideology of islamic Pakistan and know that even if india surrenders everything, Pakistan due to being islamic cannot tolerate Hindus living freely outside the control of islam. Living as second class citizen under islamic rule is just about bearable to them.

Hence, this conflict cannot be solved by giving territory. Pakistani use of expandable jihadis cannot be allowed without extracting a very heavy price, hence Modi govt will definately increase the cost for Pakistan.

What do you hope to achieve out of this situation with Pakistan? Firstly, you cannot walk over a country with a population of over 250 million people and a country armed with nuclear weapons and arguable with a superior Air Force.

Secondly, you have no diplomatic support to do anything against Pakistan. Neither the Americans, Europeans or the Russians whom you call "allies" are interested in naming and blaming Pakistan. Rather, India's state policy of assassinating citizens globally in countries like Canada, U.K, and U.S. is a serious concern now.

Ultimately, you aren’t in a position to assert dominance regionally, much less globally. It seems to me that Indians struggle to accept Pakistan’s newfound political and economic stability—and with China’s rise, our futures are closely intertwined.

 

[r3alist]

If India had cared about world opinion then India would not have taken such a patently illegal and drastic measure like suspending the IWT which had stood the test of time for 65 years. How many countries have condemned that?? Not even a mention in the recently passed UNSC Resolution over this crisis. Granted, India failed to get the diplomatic support that was expected but I don't think Pakistan would have cared anyway as long as China would Veto any non favorable UNSC Resolutions against Pakistan.
The world doesn't care and that kind of works for Pakistan too. Unless there is a hot war, the world will remain pre occupied with other things.

That's my contention, I believe they have miscalculated in part at least, by linking ivt with a punitive measure

However, you raise a point on the lack of condemnation of this move.....given the potentially ambiguous wording and that it looks like nothing changed right this moment nations will demure from prematurely criticizing India openly , that's why I believe not much said on ivt itself, the war noise is a distraction

It's still something they can poke Pakistan with in the future and need more than military action but it won't be high amplitude provocation from India

In the dutt channel 4 interview she was clearly told withholding water will place India on the wrong side of history, she said India see's no reason for morality in their response

Just like...

 

[Liquidator]

Pakistan should not allow india to persist in this manic state for too long.

Mania needs to be treated eventually....

 

[CombatCorner]

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust...
If Artillery doesn't gets you then ATGM must
Indian Post getting vaporised in Mandal sector .

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[Meengla]

Ultimately, you aren’t in a position to assert dominance regionally, much less globally. It seems to me that Indians struggle to accept Pakistan’s newfound political and economic stability—and with China’s rise, our futures are closely intertwined.

The idea that the Pakistani Army did the Pahalgam attack to 'distract' from the internal Pakistani political and economic conditions has its roots in the followers of a certain political party of Pakistan and among Indians. I have repeatedly said that unwitting bloggers of a certain political party have been allies of India in the blogspace and that Pakistanis should be careful about that. Otherwise, it is clear to me that Pakistan's economy and its political environment along with Pakistan's foreign alliances are improving. I was dreading another 'Lost Decade' when the political turmoil started in 2022 but thank God it was controlled in just 1-2 years: Pakistan came close to a 'default' which some in Pakistan were wanting!!
I am carefully not naming names here to ignite political disagreements but in the context of this thread, where Indians keep bringing up the 'distraction' angle, it must be said and understood.

 

[Meengla]

However, you raise a point on the lack of condemnation of this move.....given the potentially ambiguous wording and that it looks like nothing changed right this moment nations will demure from prematurely criticizing India openly , that's why I believe not much said on ivt itself, the war noise is a distraction

The world would not even condemn if India had outright cancelled the IWT. The Indian $$ clout is significant enough for that.
Look: The world is a jungle anyway and Indians know that. Countries are getting away with murders, even genocide, large territories are being acquired using illegal wars (Russia, Israel). Even some Pakistanis were fancying grabbing the Wakhan Corridor of Afghanistan.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Ground attack may be their least risky option, a few more dead Indian troops is nothing to them (happens all the time in Kashmir and NE India) losing one Rafael or more would shatter their pride

Modi is doing "meetings" everyday to show they are working on something. No such drama in Pakistan because we have hybrid regime who don't need to win election with votes. Neither they need to meet any political leadership to decide on how to respond to Indian attack.

Modi is desperate and want to show something.

Meanwhile average Indian living its own delusion.

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[hydrabadi_arab]

New Churches and Hindu temples cannot be built in Pakistan still.

What a horse shit, hindu/christian population have increased more rapidly then muslim in Pakistan since 1947. At least google before posting BS.

 

[HRK]

I remember you banned me when I asked you what happened to this

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Keep licking old wounds ..... I don't give a f.u.c.k what you Indians think

 

[Master Chief]

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According to him no Indian air force strike attack this time. But ground attack is possible.

Ground attack without any sort of air superiority or even aerial challenge is actually being considered.

Wtf is this mentally challenged nation to our east?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

English is the "official" language of Pakistan. Urdu is the "national" language.

Means, all official correspondence and paperwork is in English.

The national language is used to swear at people when stuck in traffic.

India also uses English for official work.

Besides the good laugh, I was not aware of that. Seems your former masters trained you very well.

Seriously, I would never have known this.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Ground attack without any sort of air superiority or even aerial challenge is actually being considered.

Wtf is this mentally challenged nation to our east?

Its easy to claim win that way by both sides. If Rafael get shot down that would be humiliation bigger then 2019. Modi may not recover from that.

 

[Pakistan First]

One has to see history to understand the depressing situation of Pakistan. Whenever there is conflict with India, it was Pakistan that lost big. Only in the early 1990s could Pakistan use expandable jihadis to do it's bidding against India, which was extremely cost effective at hurting India. Congress govt of India was also pro peace during that time and hence did not exact cost against Pakistan.

Now the situation is different, BJP govt is agressive, they understand the ideology of islamic Pakistan and know that even if india surrenders everything, Pakistan due to being islamic cannot tolerate Hindus living freely outside the control of islam. Living as second class citizen under islamic rule is just about bearable to them.

Hence, this conflict cannot be solved by giving territory. Pakistani use of expandable jihadis cannot be allowed without extracting a very heavy price, hence Modi govt will definately increase the cost for Pakistan.

Your post shows, how unaware you guys are about Pakistan. Also how easy is for you guys to get along with BJP politics. BJP have understood your mindset and they exploit it and they further bolster and reinforce their specific narrative of 1970's & 80s.

BTW, what Modi is doing will only haunt india. Because Pakistan will not forget and will exact cost of all the indian sponsored terror attacks done against Pakistan. Whatever happened in Kashmir is local kashmiri outfit. Indian blame game without any evidence is pathetic. Modi also fracturing local indian society, the PM who himself pour out hatred against muslims in public rally. Accusing them and then saying they ( jin kay bachay zyada... statement). Then in other statement worries on how much percent muslims popuplation growth rate is increasing.

So, I don't know if you are pretending to be innocent or don't really know the true face of indian regime. India has overwhelmingly supported TTP operations. Someone is sponsoring them, Taliban don't have enough money plus they are doing it before Taliban even came to power. Taliban has problems of their own, plus many Talliban leaders have deep relationship with Pakistan. Why would TTP will choose specific targets in Pakistan that bothers only India like Our AWACS and PC3 orions. Ever wondered ?? TTP don't have submarines OR fighter jets that they'd be bothered by AWACS or PC3s. But they did such a difficult missions and they did for someone. Educate yourselves.

 

[Master Chief]

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Imran is the best leader Pakistan has produced, he got respect for your country, honor and dignity, as he said it, tum log are baghairaat, who are ok with your handlers taking clothes off your moms and sisters, i have no respect for you, let alone shake hand, wont even look at your faces.. shame on your existence!

Relax. I too am an IK supporter, however this is not the time for that debate. All are united behind our military 100%.