Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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Ali_Baba said:
All Block 1's have been upgraded to Block II's. You will still see Block 1 serials, but the key to look for is the changes to strengthen the wings which was a Block II change.
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Which is what I thought and it's great news, I think we have 112 block 2s not counting the two seaters and they can be incredibly useful over the next 10-20 years as heavy burden day to day option that is still BVR capable
 
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yes but I dont think Pakistan has the likes of the Lancet drones and even the Lancet 3 with 70k range

but what Pakistan has which many nations dont have is a Top Tier Air Force

well trained Air Force with fast fighter jets who can engage in WVR and BVWR

with a formidable track record and no doubt many pilots have abilities inside them which they had the opportunity to show the World

if Pakistan steps forward, it has to be the best foot first, the PAF
 
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Blain2 said:
I listened to the chat with AM Amir Masood. I think the key thing (known even before this interview) is that there is no tactical/kinetic situation in which India has an overmatch advantage over Pakistan and perhaps in some cases, we have an overmatch of a capability. The reversal of the course by INS Vikrant is an example of this because they realized the carrier would be a sitting duck with its air arm not able to hold off PAF's VLAAM capability which eventually could lead to AshM hits on the carrier itself.
The talk about a month long war (which can happen) is diminished because it would not be in India's interest to lower the nuclear threshold for Pakistan (and the reality is that neither side has the stamina to keep up a very high tempo conflict at scale raging for a long time. This was seen in 1965, 1971 etc.).

For those that may be interested, check out Praveen Swami's interview with Lt Gen Panag where the latter said that this will be a tit for tat affair because Pakistan will respond to any or everything we throw at them. Thus the point about raising the cost for Pakistan can perhaps be understood in the following manner:

India's military planners, who I am sure have communicated this to Modi/Godi et-al, know Pakistan will respond with equal and perhaps more ferocity to their attack, so they have built into their calculations, Pakistan's military response. So what outcome will they get out of this?

In my mind, they want it to be a big enough inconvenience for Pakistan and raise the cost in terms of the run up/prep for hostilities but not go across IB etc. Second, they would want to have verifiable evidence of Pakistani blood being shed to placate the frothing at the mouth revenge/war hysteria at home. Any civilian or military deaths in Pakistan would evoke a very strong response so this part of their action would lead the two to go up the rungs on the escalation ladder, but the idea on the Indian side is they need to shed Pakistan blood (as if they haven't already been shedding Pakistani blood through their proxies). But this is the demand of the brainwashed masses in India which they may come to regret.

Above aside, firing across LoC, raids, the usual escalations at the tactical level etc. would be heated up. They may also use stand-off/ALCM etc. on select targets but what needs to be seen is what targets they choose. If they hit Pakistani military targets beyond the positions on the LoC, like brigade/formation HQs, ammunition, logistics facilities then this will be a far more serious escalation and Pakistan's response will put them in a very tight situation as they will be forced into yet another reaction cycle and this is the escalation ladder that neither side can control.

India would consider it an episodic win if they can raise the cost for this build-up on the Pakistan side along with some claims of having drawn blood on our/AK side to placate local audience. In response, they expect to be hit, and the most significant issue is that they CANNOT control the escalation ladder once that happens. So this is a pretty big gamble.
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Would they attack Mureedkeh with SCALP etc missile?
 
Aziqbal said:
which ones ?
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Many:

- YIHA III
- Dark Angel (I know bad name)
- Spear MX
- an unknown one shown in PAF videos
- MP-170
- Blaze Series

These are just the ones I could think of top of my head. The ones with seeker for mobile target destruction.

Much more available for stationary targets.
 
NA71 said:
All Indian members in this forum.....why indian anchors tone has now come down....no more fury ....
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My advice , never go by amateur anchors go by the meetings happening in PM’s cabinet.
 
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