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[Vikramaditya1]

I love how you casually expose your own bigotry again and again. I'm sorry, Muslims are not pampered and coddled. The seething hatred and resentment you have for them is shared by the rest of your society and co-religionists. This should make you happy! Them seeing a few Muslims praying in their own property is enough to trigger them and get the police to detain them.

Respect the rules and law of the land you live in. You cannot hold a congregation in Private land inviting public. A mosque require permit, building codes, pay the permit fee, seperate electricity connection for non domestic use, fire exits, parking spaces, if more than 10 person assemble it's a congregation regardless of whatever religion they follow. A house cannot be converted to praying space simply

Great find. Lol! Try this in Saudi, they get fined and arrested. But that's Arab abbu yeah?

It sounds like I'm not wrong and you, likely being a comfortable middle-to-upper class UC Hindu have an unjustified entitlement to the religious beliefs of outcastes. Let me remind you, if your ancestors were UC Hindu Brahmins, they would have been writing volumes upon volumes of texts over the last few millenia branding the ancestors of modern day SCs as impure, slave, servant, etc.

More blah blah blah. The chances of you finding an Upper Caste Hindu Brahmin in India is 4%. In PDF it's next to none. Some 70% of Indians are Hindus in India are backward community including SCs. Like I said you have zero understanding of almost anything relating to India. You just parrot Pakistani version of India.

If it's all fictional then what exactly was the point of reservations? Why were Hindu nationalists and leaders in the 19th and 20th century talking about erasing caste if Hindu society was an idyllic and inclusive paradise for all?

The point of reservation is to uplift poor, you can give them reservations in institutions so that he/she can get into elite universities and not pay any fee study and uplift yourselves or your community. Muslims also get reservations they also have minority institutions exclusively for them, and many more. One wonders what historic opression do these people claim to have when they themselves say they were rulers in India. Lol!

 

[Vikramaditya1]

Better than believing in Bollywood nonsense and then suffering embarrassing failures like 2019 and 2025.

You watch more Bollywood than I ever did btw.

 

[Neojinnah]

Respect the rules and law of the land you live in. You cannot hold a congregation in Private land inviting public. A mosque require permit, building codes, pay the permit fee, seperate electricity connection for non domestic use, fire exits, parking spaces, if more than 10 person assemble it's a congregation regardless of whatever religion they follow. A house cannot be converted to praying space simply

There is no such rule or law in UP where people need permission from the state to pray in their own private property. It's flabbergasting in fact, to see Hindu bigots talk about rules and laws given that the popular Hindu extremist ruling party in India is comprised of violent Hindu rapists and criminals. In addition to that, we know that any random Ramesh, Sukdeep, or Hardik off the street can decide to erect an ugly makeshift temple with no fear of the law cracking down on them. The eyesore of a temple which has sprouted out on the corner of the beautiful Charminar in Hyderabad and continues to fester and grow like a cancerous tumor comes to mind.

More blah blah blah. The chances of you finding an Upper Caste Hindu Brahmin in India is 4%. In PDF it's next to none. Some 70% of Indians are Hindus in India are backward community including SCs. Like I said you have zero understanding of almost anything relating to India. You just parrot Pakistani version of India.

So are you telling me you're not descended from the actual original caste Hindus who wrote the scriptures, performed the rituals, branded massive swathes of the native population as impure/mleccha/slave/untouchable and segregated themselves from them, but some random clown with no relation to the originals who thinks "eweryone is Hindu now saar"? Why exactly are you an authority on Hinduism then?

The point of reservation is to uplift poor, you can give them reservations in institutions so that he/she can get into elite universities and not pay any fee study and uplift yourselves or your community. Muslims also get reservations they also have minority institutions exclusively for them, and many more.

If that was the purpose of reservations, then 1) they wouldn't be awarded on the basis of caste and background 2) they wouldn't be taken away from poor SCs who converted to another religion

It's funny you were telling me I was babbling a while ago, and here you are just casually contradicting your own statements from before. Pure unfiltered bigoted Hindu babble.

One wonders what historic opression do these people claim to have when they themselves say they were rulers in India. Lol!

Is that what an actual Indian Muslim told you or just something you saw online which triggered you?

 

[Vikramaditya1]

There is no such rule or law in UP where people need permission from the state to pray in their own private property.

You can pray in your own house no problem but holding regular Friday prayers inviting members of public is a violation of the rules. It's also a public order offence although bailable. Build a proper mosque if you want to pray. Submit proper plans there are no laws preventing a mosque being build on any land in India. In fact India has one of the most number of mosques in the world.

So are you telling me you're not descended from the actual original caste Hindus who wrote the scriptures, performed the rituals, branded massive swathes of the native population as impure/mleccha/slave/untouchable and segregated themselves from them, but some random clown with no relation to the originals who thinks "eweryone is Hindu now saar"? Why exactly are you an authority on Hinduism then?

Thank you Jinnah.

It's funny you were telling me I was babbling a while ago, and here you are just casually contradicting your own statements from before. Pure unfiltered bigoted Hindu babble.

Irony.

Is that what an actual Indian Muslim told you or just something you saw online which triggered you?

I could quote Pakistanis themselves bragging about 1000 years rule now don't try wordsaladding your way out of it, so how can you be opressed over thousand years and rulers over thousand years.

 

[Neojinnah]

You can pray in your own house no problem but holding regular Friday prayers inviting members of public is a violation of the rules. It's also a public order offence although bailable. Build a proper mosque if you want to pray. Submit proper plans there are no laws preventing a mosque being build on any land in India. In fact India has one of the most number of mosques in the world.

There is literally no rule preventing this. There are however, rules and laws about rape, corruption, assault, etc which are regularly flouted by India's Hindu ruling class. For some reason cow fanatic swine and their co-religionists in the police force who prattle about rules and laws are nowhere to be seen in holding those actual criminals to the rule of law. In fact they gleefully vote them in! Rule of law is just the excuse to justify punitive action to punish minorities. Similar how bulldozers became a weapon.

Thank you Jinnah.

Is that a yes? No?

could quote Pakistanis themselves bragging about 1000 years rule now don't try wordsaladding your way out of it, so how can you be opressed over thousand years and rulers over thousand years.

The Pakistanis who trigger you online have no relation to Indian Muslims. I shouldn't need to tell you this. And I would take any Pakistani who bragged like that about as seriously as I do the typical sanskritized convert rapist Ramesh Yadav from Bihar who forged a fake mythical Vedic kshatriya lineage for himself and thinks he was personally descended from the Aryans who composed the Rig Veda.

 

[Neojinnah]

. But that's Arab abbu yeah?

As an aside - it's perplexing how many Hindu radicals are obssessed with Arabs. The premier trend in South Asia is non-Indo Aryans making the Vedic Aryans their abu, adopting their gods, names, tribes, etc. 1 billion Hindus today literally identify with the Bharatas despite having absolutely nothing in common with them

 

[Vikramaditya1]

There is literally no rule preventing this.

Google is free.
U.P. Kshettra Panchayats and Zila Panchayats Rules, 1974 specifically say that a building used or intended to be used as a public place of worship or religious congregation including a mosque cannot be erected without permission of the Zila Panchayat.

Is that a yes? No?

No, I just thanked Jinnah for something else. Lol!

The Pakistanis who trigger you online have no relation to Indian Muslims. I shouldn't need to tell you this. And I would take any Pakistani who bragged like that about as seriously as I do the typical sanskritized convert rapist Ramesh Yadav from Bihar who forged a fake mythical Vedic kshatriya lineage for himself and thinks he was personally descended from the Aryans who composed the Rig Veda.

Like I said, there is no convincing argument for a Muslim to be considered a backward community. Historically they were not considered as lower Hindu castes, and reservation only applies to Hindu castes. It's that simple. But given their extremely poor status they were included in backward communities. Not all Muslims the Ashrafi, high class types are not included. Anything else to mumble?

 

[Neojinnah]

Google is free.
U.P. Kshettra Panchayats and Zila Panchayats Rules, 1974 specifically say that a building used or intended to be used as a public place of worship or religious congregation including a mosque cannot be erected without permission of the Zila Panchayat.

This is talking about erection. At least read whatever you're going to Googlejeet before rattling it off to someone to justify "rule of law" punitive action against minorities in a country literally ruled by extremist rapists and criminals.

No, I just thanked Jinnah for something else. Lol!

Historically they were not considered as lower Hindu castes, and reservation only applies to Hindu castes.

You went from claiming reservations were intended for the poor to this
And historically, North Indian Muslims are descended from lower castes in urban areas. North India also happens to be populated by the most vile and bigoted militant cow fanatics with a strong record of persecuting lower castes, so even more reason for reservations to apply to them.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

This is talking about erection. At least read whatever you're going to Googlejeet before rattling it off to someone to justify "rule of law" punitive action against minorities in a country literally ruled by extremist rapists and criminals.

Isn't education free there? Is it that hard to understand what it meant?
The rule is pretty simple, want to pray? Build a mosque. Private property is not public and public property is not private. Pay the required permit and fees. It's not that hard.

You went from claiming reservations were intended for the poor to this
And historically, North Indian Muslims are descended from lower castes in urban areas. North India also happens to be populated by the most vile and bigoted militant cow fanatics with a strong record of persecuting lower castes, so even more reason for reservations to apply to them.

The premise of reservation is poverty upliftment. Couldn't care who North Indian Muslims descended from once you are a Musilm, you stop following Hinduism, then you can't be considered any caste of Hindu. The only reason some Muslim community get reservations is they are too poor and needed some program, and the easiest one was to be included.

Constitutionally India cannot give reservation based on religion. We jumped hoops to include Muslims by making them into some non existent caste lol!

 

[Neojinnah]

The rule is pretty simple, want to pray? Build a mosque. Private property is not public and public property is not private. Pay the required permit and fees. It's not that hard.

...That is not the rule you posted. What you are doing right now is coming up with rules. And may I add once again, coming up with rules in a country known for having no rules, with kattar Sanatani rapists getting handed MLA tickets left and right.

Couldn't care who North Indian Muslims descended from once you are a Musilm, you stop following Hinduism, then you can't be considered any caste of Hindu.

I guess if I reiterate that SCs arent actually Hindu, many were considered to be avarna and had no caste, and were forbidden from access to Hindu temples and reading Hindu scripture, you will cry that I am not allowed to talk about that.

The premise of reservation is poverty upliftment

The premise is upliftment for the convert Hindus who were denied access to education and mainstream society for centuries. It's incredible to see a cow fanatic get so uppity and try to gatekeep discussion on this subject while knowing absolutely nothing. Seriously Ramesh, if this is the gobar quality gyaan you will give, better to just bugger off instead of these poor attempts at engagement.

 

[Watandar]

You watch more Bollywood than I ever did btw.

I only laugh at clips of idiot Bollywood films , which many Indians take as fact.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

...That is not the rule you posted. What you are doing right now is coming up with rules. And may I add once again, coming up with rules in a country known for having no rules, with kattar Sanatani rapists getting handed MLA tickets left and right.

No that's where critical thinking becomes important. Take for example if a rule that says "do not eat yellow snow." You don't build a snow cone, piss in it and eat it but when cops catch you, you say "but there is no rule regarding building a snow cone, pissing in it, and eating it." That's basically your argument.

I guess if I reiterate that SCs arent actually Hindu, many were considered to be avarna and had no caste, and were forbidden from access to Hindu temples and reading Hindu scripture, you will cry that I am not allowed to talk about that.

That's why I said you are ignorant. All SCs have castes. SC is scheduled castes. Yeah, Avarnas then included anyone who is not hindu, you are an Avarna, while all Dalits have access to temples. So what exactly is your argument? Most Dalits are practicing Hindus, with a correction though, anyone who practice Indian religion and belongs to Dalit community is SC. A Dalit can also be Sikh or Buddhist as well.

The premise is upliftment for the convert Hindus who were denied access to education and mainstream society for centuries. It's incredible to see a cow fanatic get so uppity and try to gatekeep discussion on this subject while knowing absolutely nothing. Seriously Ramesh, if this is the gobar quality gyaan you will give, better to just bugger off instead of these poor attempts at engagement

Ow nice rant lol!

 

[Vikramaditya1]

I only laugh at clips of idiot Bollywood films , which many Indians take as fact.

I haven't watched a Bollywood movie in years, I don't watch movies I have no idea of what they say. Regardless I see a lot of you dancing to Bollywood crap.

 

[Neojinnah]

No that's where critical thinking becomes important. Take for example if a rule that says "do not eat yellow snow." You don't build a snow cone, piss in it and eat it but when cops catch you, you say "but there is no rule regarding building a snow cone, pissing in it, and eating it." That's basically your argument.

No, my argument is that there is no law preventing Muslims from praying in their homes. You need to make quite a flew leaps of logic, inferring that the private home was an unofficial mosque open to the public and that India is a society where rapists and criminals arent roaming freely to justify this punitive action.

, while all Dalits have access to temples

This is not true. In some areas today, yes. But for most of history, before foreigners brought democracy and enlightenment ideals to the subcontinent, Dalits were considered avarna untouchables. I don't understand why you'd lie about Hinduism. If you are that ashamed about what Hinduism is, just disown it instead of trying to whitewash it to make it look good to mlecchas.

Ow nice rant lol!

Thank you, Ramesh