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[hussain0216]

Waqf Board had started claiming Red fort, Parliament house and Delhi High Court as Waqf ki milkiyat

But when last year, they started claiming Ambani House Antilia as there property, we knew something will happened.

No action taken when Waqf illegally claimed entire Hindu villages in Kerala,

But the moment they laid claim to Neeta Ambani's House, then Mota bhai ca lled Narendra Bhai , and then all hell broke loose , with Modi Government pushing the bill through in 2 days.

Those things are Muslim heritage, it's part and parcel of the history and culture of Indian Muslims, they have a right to claim those things

 

[hussain0216]

Check this out, sanghis being cruel and mean as always.

I'm a Modi voter and somewhat moderate supporter but stuff like this just fuels more hatred.

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The hatred was ALWAYS there, that's why partition was so vital

Because putting hundreds of millions of Indian Muslims into a situation where their history, property, culture and faith were under constant attack by a hindutva extremist state was intolerable and would lead to violent division and deep seated enmity and hatred

South Asia has not been able to move on because of the stupid way they try to keep India together

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Yet again targeting Muslims - targeting their places of worship - target their finances - target what they eat.
Don’t sugar coat it. We both know what this is about.

When did I target Muslims?

All I said was that no organisation should be allowed to bypass the judicial system and the law—regardless of political influence or vote-bank politics.

If any party grants powers that place an organization above the law, it must be corrected—whether that organization is Hindu, Muslim, or otherwise.

If someone willingly wants to donate their land, house, or property—no one can stop them. But if any group is granted the power to come to your home and issue a notice claiming it belongs to them, just because they decided so...

So where is the judicial system and the rule of law in all of this? And tell me—where exactly did I say anything against Muslims? I'm simply standing up for what’s right.

You might support such provisions based on religious lines, but I cannot. I support fairness and lawful processes—no exceptions.

 

[vasanthm]

Those things are Muslim heritage, it's part and parcel of the history and culture of Indian Muslims, they have a right to claim those things

They can claim whatever they want within the bounds of the law

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Waqf Board had started claiming Red fort, Parliament house and Delhi High Court as Waqf ki milkiyat

But when last year, they started claiming Ambani House Antilia as there property, we knew something will happened.

No action taken when Waqf illegally claimed entire Hindu villages in Kerala,

But the moment they laid claim to Neeta Ambani's House, then Mota bhai called Narendra Bhai , and then all hell broke loose , with Modi Government pushing the bill through in 2 days.

This is how Waqf boards owned 18 lakh acres of land from 1913 to 2013., since now congress is ruling here - they started their job

They even don't spare farmers lands. Waqf Board claiming 1,200 acres from farmers in Karnataka? Vijayapura land row explained

What does the fresh evidence reveal?

The News18 report said that the Waqf board’s name was inserted in land records of 44 properties in Vijayapura in the last three weeks. Land records were changed without giving notices to farmers in several cases. Farmers told News18 that there was no notice or no hearing as records show that Waqf board’s name made it to Column number 11 of the RTC (Record of Rights, Tenancy and Crops) just two days after Karnataka Waqf Minister BZ Zameer Ahmed Khan’s meeting with officials.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india/waqf-board-claiming-1200-acres-from-farmers-in-karnataka-vijayapura-land-row-explained-12852884.html

 

[Musings]

When did I target Muslims?

All I said was that no organisation should be allowed to bypass the judicial system and the law—regardless of political influence or vote-bank politics.

If any party grants powers that place an organization above the law, it must be corrected—whether that organization is Hindu, Muslim, or otherwise.

If someone willingly wants to donate their land, house, or property—no one can stop them. But if any group is granted the power to come to your home and issue a notice claiming it belongs to them, just because they decided so...

So where is the judicial system and the rule of law in all of this? And tell me—where exactly did I say anything against Muslims? I'm simply standing up for what’s right.

You might support such provisions based on religious lines, but I cannot. I support fairness and lawful processes—no exceptions.

Im talking about Indian politicos bro NOT you personally. Apologies.
Look at it from an objective view. How is it always an attempt to malign the Muslamic community? If its not this - its that. This time may have some prevalence but the irony is in Modis India this is a titbit for those that want to divide. You are smart enough to know what i am saying.........

 

[Justin TruDont]

Those things are Muslim heritage, it's part and parcel of the history and culture of Indian Muslims, they have a right to claim those things

When did Parliament house which was built by the British in 1915 became part of Muslim Heritage.

When did Patiala House Court built in 1830s by Ranjit Singh of Sikh Empire became part of Muslim Heritage

When did Ambani House Antilia built by Mukesh Empire in 2008, became part of Muslim heritage

 

[suriya]

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[Rollno21]

What are you talking about???? Their is always national laws to follow

The waqf is required to administer Muslim property and lands, if their is dispute then a court case can be opened and both parties can submit evidence etc to resolve the issue

But why the hell is the hindutva state wading into Indian Muslim issues constantly

Ok now we know you know nothing about waqf and what they are doing in India.

As you said court case can be opened , current law states if there is a dispute it will be heandled by the tribunal of waqf board not the court and the old law states the burden of proof is not with waqf board , but the other party has to prove that it's their properly and that too in front of the waqf tribunal.

 

[hussain0216]

Ok now we know you know nothing about waqf and they are doing in India.

As you said court case can be opened , current law states if there is a dispute it will be headed the tribunal of waqf board not the court and the old law states the burden of proof is not with waqf board , but the other party has to prove that it's their properly and that too in front of the waqf tribunal.

What's wrong in that, if it's your property, you should have proof or deed or some legal documentation

This is why Indian Muslims have become so active and why the waqf has become so active in recent years, sureing up their administration of Muslim properties and heritage and ensuring they retain control of that heritage and what rightly belongs to Indian Muslims


It's a constant battle now, to defend the faith, culture and hundreds of millions against a hindutva extremist state that is constantly targeting them for the sanghi vote

And it will end in a INEVITABLE partition of India because it's the only option available

Indian Muslims need to make the move, get their populations on the move, sell old properties, or give to the waqf in exchange for a move to Muslim areas. This will give them better protection in numbers and is essential

 

[vasanthm]

What's wrong in that, if it's your property, you should have proof or deed or some legal documentation

What a ridiculous argument. If there’s a dispute over ownership, you can’t allow one of the parties—like the Waqf Board—to act as judge and jury. That goes against basic principles of natural justice.

In any fair legal system, the burden of proof lies on the one making the claim, not the current owner who has possession. Imagine someone walking into your house, claiming it’s theirs, and then you have to prove it’s not. That’s not how law works—that’s absurd.

Also, let’s be honest—your judgment here is clearly coloured by your religious affiliation. That’s fine, but it doesn't make the Waqf Board's past actions just or lawful. Property disputes need to be settled in courts, not by religious bodies with vested interests.

 

[Third eye]

Pakistan's Waqf properties are governed by both federal and provincial laws, including the Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Waqf Properties Ordinances (1979) and the Islamabad Capital Territory and Sindh Waqf Properties Acts (2020).

A legislation on similar lines has been enacted in India too.

Where is the issue?

 

[Maira La]

I wanted to post in this thread but an Indian mod threatened to ban me if I posted anything anti-India/anti-Hindutva there.

Anyways...
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They are picking on Waqf because Hindus don't have their Sanatan equivalent of Waqf.

But that's not the Muslims' fault.

Hindus don't do Zakat.. in their religion they believe lower castes DESERVE their current condition for their deeds in previous life. In such a toxic dehumanizing culture of course you won't have Waqf.

What needs gradual dismantling is not Muslim Waqf but the Hindu caste system.

 

[Rollno21]

What's wrong in that, if it's your property, you should have proof or deed or some legal documentation

This is why Indian Muslims have become so active and why the waqf has become so active in recent years, sureing up their administration of Muslim properties and heritage and ensuring they retain control of that heritage and what rightly belongs to Indian Muslims


It's a constant battle now, to defend the faith, culture and hundreds of millions against a hindutva extremist state that is constantly targeting them for the sanghi vote

And it will end in a INEVITABLE partition of India because it's the only option available

Indian Muslims need to make the move, get their populations on the move, sell old properties, or give to the waqf in exchange for a move to Muslim areas. This will give them better protection in numbers and is essential

I come and claim your property and you cannot go to court instead you have to bring your documents in front of a committee I appoint to prove its your property and the committees verdict is final. Do you want such law, as you said what's wrong ,if you have documents to prove its your property, remember committee is mine. This is the sort of privileges Muslims were getting which no other religion gets in India.

 

[Thinking]

I come and claim your property and you cannot go to court instead you have to bring your documents in front of a committee I appoint to prove its your property and the committees verdict is final. Do you want such law, as you said what's wrong ,if you have documents to prove its your property, remember committee is mine. This is the sort of privileges Muslims were getting which no other religion gets in India.

You are applying logic. He sees this is a Muslim vs non Muslim problem. Guy has no problem committing genocide (of non-Muslims) as long as it is strategic.