India’s Quiet Push to Steal More of China’s iPhone Business

Sources said "preparations are in full swing", adding that enclosures produced at the plant's components factory set in up in 2021 are already used for some iPhone models built in India and exported to China, the report said. "Equipment and production lines are being stress-tested to meet the high demand expected at this new facility," sources told the paper.
 
Impressive development. (y)

Although, I am not sure how India is stealing China's iPhone business because Apple remains strong in China irrespective of all the claims to the contrary.


 
Impressive development. (y)

Although, I am not sure how India is stealing China's iPhone business because Apple remains strong in China irrespective of all the claims to the contrary.



Apple's plan is to diversify manufacturing supply chain. As per Apple's plan 25% of iPhone manufacturing goes to India.

Apple employs 1 million workers in China to make their products for both China and rest of the world, If the plan to make 25% of iPhones in India goes there will be loss of jobs in China
 
Chinese company BOE has been trying to catch up, but is still insufficient. With new products set to launch in September, Samsung Display and LG Display have received approval for mass production, while BOE has yet to secure approval. BOE had difficulties in mass-producing panels even for the iPhone 15 series.
Very interesting, but I don't know which one is right between you and nahtanbob. On one hand, nahtanbob claim that BOE accounts for 20% of production, while on the other hand,you claim that it didn't happen.
 
Apple's plan is to diversify manufacturing supply chain. As per Apple's plan 25% of iPhone manufacturing goes to India.

Apple employs 1 million workers in China to make their products for both China and rest of the world, If the plan to make 25% of iPhones in India goes there will be loss of jobs in China
Not only 25%. This 25% Target is only till 2025. By 2030, Apple wants to manufacture 50% in India and 50% in China.
 
I have said many times Chibese are getting poor and more and more are not able to afford iPhone. It is becoming luxury items. Different between rich and poor is growing in China.
I believe the iPhone is easier to buy compared to other smartphones. For example, you can purchase a $1,000 iPhone with 24 equal installments of about $40 per month. While Apple is considered a luxury brand, this financing option makes it more affordable for many people.

On the other hand, the PURA 70 costs around $1,400, which shows that Android users can also opt for premium, high-end devices. It's inaccurate to label Android users as 'non-luxurious,' as many Android models are just as expensive and feature-rich as the iPhone
 
I believe the iPhone is easier to buy compared to other smartphones. For example, you can purchase a $1,000 iPhone with 24 equal installments of about $40 per month. While Apple is considered a luxury brand, this financing option makes it more affordable for many people.

On the other hand, the PURA 70 costs around $1,400, which shows that Android users can also opt for premium, high-end devices. It's inaccurate to label Android users as 'non-luxurious,' as many Android models are just as expensive and feature-rich as the iPhone
Why would I spend $1400 on Android phone ?
 
Very interesting, but I don't know which one is right between you and nahtanbob. On one hand, nahtanbob claim that BOE accounts for 20% of production, while on the other hand,you claim that it didn't happen.

I would not know either. I am just posting articles from various websites
 

With expansion in India, Apple bolsters global manufacturing​


Apple's release this month of its iPhone 16, new Apple Watch, and AirPods, is creating a buzz among consumers. This year's lineup also marks something else that's new — the role India played in Apple's global rollout as a manufacturer of the iPhone Pro for the first time.

That milestone comes as global corporations are seeking to diversify their production away from China and as competition between the two Asian rivals heats up, analysts say.

Apple first began making iPhones in India in 2017, beginning with the iPhone SE. The move signaled Apple's intent to diversify its supply chains away from China, a move that other tech conglomerates, such as Microsoft and Amazon, made as well, shifting manufacturing away from China to countries such as India and Vietnam.

Foxconn expands to India

Apple's supply chain diversification gained steam during the COVID-19 pandemic when a Foxconn factory unexpectedly closed in China, following clashes between Chinese workers and security personnel over wages and Beijing's strict COVID lockdowns, which impacted factory operations.

Foxconn is Apple's largest contractor and produces more than two-thirds of Apple's iPhones, according to Thibault Denamiel, an associate fellow and Scholl Chair in International Business at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

According to Denamiel, the Taiwan-based contractor currently produces around 80% of its iPhones in Zhengzhou, known as "iPhone City," and recently opened a new $138 million headquarters in China. However, it has also expanded its operations abroad with significant investments in manufacturing hubs in India.

In 2023, Foxconn made a $1.5 billion investment in the southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu, built a $600 million plant in Karnataka, and built a $500 million plant in Telangana. These investments were made in preparation for the assembly of the new iPhone 16 lineup.

Multinational welcome mat

Jonathan Ward, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, noted that India has been receptive to investments and promoted efforts to attract business from large multinational companies.

"It remains a huge opportunity for them [India] and there have been strategic initiatives such as Sagar Mala and Make it India, in particular, that show, I think a directional desire to gain from this opportunity," he explained to VOA.

New Delhi has offered subsidies to companies in order to boost the manufacturing of IT hardware domestically under India's PLI 2.0 Scheme for IT Hardware. Foxconn is one of the companies that received benefits from these subsidies, which include revenue-based annual payouts to manufacturers.

Monish Tourangbam, director at the Kalinga Institute of Indo-Pacific Studies, said India possesses several key advantages as it seeks to expand its manufacturing sector. He said India has political predictability, an appetite for structural economic reforms, a competitive level of market forces and domestic consumption.

'Entering the game'

However, Tourangbam said India lags behind China in terms of labor skills and maturity, as Beijing has a long history of mass producing high quality electronic goods.

"Yes, in India's case you have a very big demographic dividend, a young workforce, but that young workforce has to be skilled in the right way," he told VOA. "India is entering the game right now, but the Chinese have a longer experience of a workforce which is required for this kind of job [producing electronics] and I think we are just seeing the beginning of this."

Ward agreed but added there is a big gap between India and China's manufacturing experience.

"At this point, China has spent 30 years building an enormous industrial base, which is larger than that of the United States, and they've invested very specifically in key strategic industries and have become a critical part of today's electronic supply chain," he said. "Whereas India has not done that, it does not have that history, and ... therefore the workforce, services, all of that ... has been, I think, built accordingly."

Ward said that even though India may be behind China in terms of their industrial base, companies' fear of geopolitical risks with China "bode well for India's future."

"The geopolitical risks of commercial engagement with China or China-based supply chains are becoming so large that both at a government level and at a national strategic level as well as at a corporate level, people have to go and look for future manufacturing opportunities, particularly in electronics, because that's where the bulk of China's trading value is concentrated," he said.

Denamiel also said geopolitical factors will play a role as to where companies will decide to manufacture.

"Geopolitical factors play an increasingly large role on where companies choose to invest – because their ability to grow their operations and access customers is increasingly tied to geopolitical developments, which are currently complicating the global trade landscape," he said in an email to VOA.

Tourangbam said geopolitical factors will be included in companies' manufacturing strategies. But he said companies' diversification should not be thought of as leaving China, but rather as a "China plus one strategy."

"It's not … we are finding this alternative like India and Vietnam, we are totally moving out of China," he said. "A lot of headlines seem to make it like that, but I don't think that's the case. So it's a China plus one and not a minus China strategy."
 

Exclusive: Pegatron in talks with Tata to sell its only India iPhone plant, sources say​


  • Taiwan's Pegatron reducing its Apple iPhone business
  • Tata eyeing key Pegatron India plant to boost its plans-sources
  • Tata already has two planned iPhone assembly plants
  • Deal with Pegatron could take six months to close-source
BENGALURU/NEW DELHI, April 8 (Reuters) - Pegatron (4938.TW), opens new tab is in advanced talks to hand over control of its only iPhone manufacturing facility in India to the Tata Group, said two sources with direct knowledge, marking the Taiwanese firm's latest scale back of its Apple (AAPL.O), opens new tab partnership.
Under the deal, which has received the backing of Apple, Tata plans to hold at least a 65% stake in a joint venture that will operate the Pegatron plant near Chennai city in the southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu, with the Taiwanese firm providing technical support and holding the rest, one of the sources said.

Tata, one the largest conglomerates in India, will operate the joint venture through its Tata Electronics unit, the second source said.
The Pegatron India factory has around 10,000 employees and makes 5 million iPhones annually. It is the last such facility operated by the firm after it forfeited control of an iPhone plant in China last year to rival Luxshare (002475.SZ), opens new tab in a $290 million deal.
Tata and Pegatron did not respond to emailed requests for comments. Apple declined to comment. The sources did not share financial details of the ongoing negotiations.

Apple is increasingly looking to diversify its supply chain beyond China amid geopolitical tensions between Beijing and Washington. For India's Tata, the Chennai Pegatron plant will bolster its iPhone manufacturing plans.
Tata already operates an iPhone assembly plant in the neighbouring southern state of Karnataka, which it took over from Taiwan's Wistron (3231.TW), opens new tab last year, and is also building another in Hosur in Tamil Nadu, where Pegatron is likely to emerge as its joint venture partner.

Pegatron has for months also been building another iPhone factory at its Chennai campus, and the Tata deal talks include taking over that facility as well, the first source said.
The talks between Tata and Pegatron for the factory are expected to close in six months and will see all of the Pegatron India employees move to the joint venture entity, the first source added.
Apple's iPhone contract manufacturers in India currently include Tata, Pegatron and Foxconn (2317.TW), opens new tab. Tata is key to Apple's growing ambitions in India, which analysts estimate will contribute 20-25% of total iPhone shipments this year, from 12-14% last year.

The reasons for Pegatron's gradual withdrawal from its Apple business, including in India, were not known. Last year, Pegatron said the China plant deal was done to raise capital to "optimise its business".
 

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