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Babak complains about even more beauracracy
to be honest it's good someone is calling out this bullshit
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Babak complains about even more beauracracy
to be honest it's good someone is calling out this bullshit
Cancerous Tumor
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Irony of the year someone who have built his empire with same bureaucracy now complains about it. classic
Bazari/wealthy meant to be a positive adjective for someone during last thousand years in our society i wonder how they managed to destroy that too.
Cancerous Tumor
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I was watching Mr Bahrami's new clip then at some point he referred to "economic resistance" then I said let see what DeepSeek and GrokAi have to say about it ~12 years later with perspective of comparing Iran and Russia based on 24 points of Iran's leader to counter sanctions :
DeepSeek's Conclusion:
Grok's take :
Both countries were hit by similar economic pressure from outside it seem Russia was better at implementing original Iran's plan to counter economic sanctions !
DeepSeek's Conclusion:
- Iran's "Resistance Economics" is a comprehensive, defensive, and ideological doctrine born from decades of isolation. It aims to build a just, internalized economy but struggles with implementation due to structural inefficiencies and the very sanctions it tries to resist.
- Russia's "Sanctions Resistance" is an offensive, pragmatic, and strategic adaptation. It leverages Russia's integration into the global economy (as a resource superpower) to build parallel systems (finance, trade routes) and exploit new markets, showing greater agility and effectiveness.
Grok's take :
| # | Point Focus | Iran Alignment | Russia Alignment | Notes on Comparison |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Entrepreneurship & Public Participation | S | M | Iran stronger on equity; Russia militarizes employment |
| 2 | Knowledge-Based Economy | M | S | Russia edges due to larger R&D budget |
| 3 | Productivity & Competitiveness | M | M | Both face inflation hurdles |
| 4 | Targeted Subsidies | S | W | Iran’s explicit policy; Russia less targeted |
| 5 | Fair Value-Sharing | M | W | Iran ideologically driven |
| 6 | Domestic Production of Essentials | S | S | Strong parallel: both reduced import dependence 20-30% |
| 7 | Food/Healthcare Security | S | M | Iran near self-sufficient; Russia exports surplus |
| 8 | Consumption Management | M | M | Similar rhetorical push |
| 9 | Financial System Reform | M | S | Russia more adaptive to shocks |
| 10 | Export Support | S | S | Both excel; Russia has larger volumes |
| 11 | Economic Zones | M | M | Moderate; untapped potential |
| 12 | Resilience via Ties/Diplomacy | S | S | Core overlap: BRICS/SCO anti-West bloc |
| 13 | Oil/Gas Revenue Diversification | M | S | Russia stronger via shadow fleet |
| 14 | Strategic Reserves | M | S | Russia’s $600B NWF dominates |
| 15 | Value-Added in Energy | S | M | Iran more advanced in downstream |
| 16 | Public Cost Savings | W | M | Both struggle with bureaucracy |
| 17 | Tax Revenue Increase | M | S | Russia more progressive |
| 18 | Reduce Oil Budget Dependence | M | M | Similar progress |
| 19 | Anti-Corruption/Transparency | W | W | Weak in both; sanctions fuel shadow economy |
| 20 | Jihadist/Productivity Culture | S | M | Iran’s ideological edge |
| 21 | Discourse Promotion | S | M | Iran more embedded culturally |
| 22 | Mobilization & Risk Management | M | S | Russia militarized approach |
| 23 | Distribution/Pricing Oversight | M | M | Similar moderate controls |
| 24 | Standards Promotion | M | S | Russia integrates globally better |
Both countries were hit by similar economic pressure from outside it seem Russia was better at implementing original Iran's plan to counter economic sanctions !
Persian Gulf
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Iran announces discovery of major gold deposit in South Khorasan
The Iranian report said the vein holds some “7.95 million tonnes of oxide gold ore and 53.1 million tonnes of sulphide gold ore.”Iran has announced the discovery of a major gold deposit at one of the country’s biggest mines for the precious metal, local media reported Monday.
The new vein structure was found at the privately-owned Shadan gold mine in the eastern province of South Khorasan, which Fars news agency described as “among the country’s most important”.
The agency said the new reserves have been officially validated by the ministry of industry, mines and trade.
“The proven reserves of the Shadan gold mine in the east of the country have experienced a significant increase following the discovery of a vast gold vein,” the report said.
It added that the vein holds some “7.95 million tonnes of oxide gold ore and 53.1 million tonnes of sulphide gold ore.”
Iran announces discovery of major gold deposit hoping it would ease economic pressures | | AW
Iran has 15 gold mines, with the largest being the Zarshouran mine located in the country’s northwest.
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if this is extracted and converted into pure gold, this is $16-32 billion worth of pure gold
hopefully it is refined etc inside Iran itself.
Persian Gulf
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desalinated water transfer from Persian Gulf to Esfahan became operational
Persian Gulf
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massive price inflation since Pezeshkian became elected
meanwhile, Iranian oil exports are at very high levels
shapurzolaktaf
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I don't know why war ridden countries have way lower inflation rate than Iran:
Iraq's inflation: 2.7 % (2024)
Afghanistan: 2.5 % (2025)
We should import economists from Taliban.
Navid09
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Mainly because of Subsidies as well as the sudden sanction shock
Cancerous Tumor
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Milk(usually industrial production) gets $1 at 28500 toman subsidized and they sell it like that no shame at all.
Villagers in Iran produce literally best type of meat (sheep meat) and they are losing due to government control over markets.
Iran: Sheep Meat vs. Cow Meat Production (2024 Estimates & 2025 Forecasts)
| Feature | Sheep Meat (Mutton/Lamb) | Cow Meat (Beef) |
|---|---|---|
| 2024 Production (Est.) | ~ 465,000 metric tons | ~ 430,000 metric tons |
| 2025 Forecast | Stable (~460,000-480,000 tons) | Slight decline to ~420,000 tons |
| Primary Source | Large dedicated flocks (~50+ million head) | Mainly a by-product of the dairy industry (culled cows) |
| Consumer Preference | High - The preferred red meat for most dishes. | Lower - Often a cost-driven alternative to lamb. |
| Key Challenge | Recurring drought affecting pastures. | Extremely high cost of concentrated feed. |
| Production Trend | Stable, with efforts focused on herd recovery. | Declining due to feed costs and dairy sector pressures. |
| Global Rank | Top 10 (usually 7th-9th) | Mid-tier (usually 20th-25th) |
I was wondering about bread too, how is it that production of bread at industrial line has higher price than bread of small bakery in villages and small cities while both get their wheat at market price and energy is almost free here yet 1 or 2 workers at random bakeries are beating industrial prices !
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Cancerous Tumor
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Recent back-and-forth discussion of current MP Amir Hossein Sabeti and his view about Iran Khodro Co and related comment of one IRGC commanders about this company reminds me of another Basiji commentator.
American Basiji(he denied it himself
), Milton Friedman :"What does it mean to say that 'business' has responsibilities? Only people can have responsibilities. A corporation is an artificial person and in this sense may have artificial responsibilities, but 'business' as a whole cannot be said to have responsibilities..."
Based on this company history which whenever inflation increased, so did the price of their cars.also if we add 10 years of tariff protection, almost no competition and ... based on this company's history and it's actions which are following business models and gaining profit they are(share holders and their managers) far away from Basij mentality.
American Basiji(he denied it himself
), Milton Friedman :"What does it mean to say that 'business' has responsibilities? Only people can have responsibilities. A corporation is an artificial person and in this sense may have artificial responsibilities, but 'business' as a whole cannot be said to have responsibilities..."Based on this company history which whenever inflation increased, so did the price of their cars.also if we add 10 years of tariff protection, almost no competition and ... based on this company's history and it's actions which are following business models and gaining profit they are(share holders and their managers) far away from Basij mentality.
Kyussis
Trusted Member
Because they don't elect idiotic and traitorous Liberals!
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shapurzolaktaf
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Aside from this project being smart or not, IRI mafia simply can't start such big projects. They are stuck in reducing/removing energy subsidies, building north-south corridor and a very small basra-shalamcheh railway, controlling Inflation, reducing roadway accidents/deaths etc.
This is just fantasy like Iran-rud project. Building a village takes 50 years in Iran.
Khorasan Black Flags
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Bitter fact
The final 16 months of Martyr Raisi’s presidency:
An 11% increase in the dollar rate and a 32% increase in gold coins.
The first 16 months of Dr. Pezeshkian’s administration:
A 121% increase in the dollar rate and a 237% increase in gold coins.
If the 13th government had continued, many of the country’s economic problems would have been resolved.
The final 16 months of Martyr Raisi’s presidency:
An 11% increase in the dollar rate and a 32% increase in gold coins.
The first 16 months of Dr. Pezeshkian’s administration:
A 121% increase in the dollar rate and a 237% increase in gold coins.
If the 13th government had continued, many of the country’s economic problems would have been resolved.
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