Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

@Immortals @Persian Gulf

The last thing Iran needs is an extra headache in the form of ukraine.

Today bibi was pleased after meeting with trump, it looks like there will be a continuation of war with us/israel. It needs to think about it

only tac. n**K*s on tunnel entrances will seal the deal

but thats risky too, bec. that would mean, almost certain use of same tac. n888es from IR as well!


as long as SOH is under IR control, its economy will also thrive!

so, this war will persist well into future, like Russo_ukr war

 

[Flotilla]

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Iran doesn't need to carry out military action against ukraine, it is pointlessly , they need focus on us/israel

There is also an additional reason (I agree with you and Watandar)... What can Irán get striking back Ukraine that Russia didn't get before?.
Russia has hit as much as they knew and wanted before Irán. Militarily Irán won't damage more than Russians.
Finally, Irán will consume stocks of missiles much more necessary on the real front. I don't like at all Ukraine Government but, I would let Russia finish the job. There is no fish in that bowl.

 

[Immortals]

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[RzA]

Attacks on Yahud Arabia have resumed

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[krash]

Not territory. Authorization of entry to ships that may impact the interior... as not being part of it.

The exit, sure... and share the proceeds 50/50 ... even while being unable to enforce anything... what Oman gets is a concession, regardless... or gets arm twisted. That is a weakness that will impact littoral states...

Now if Oman was a maritime power and able to sway things on its own right and push back on those who mean harm... Oman could and in fact should have control over the transiting ships. It doesn't...

The Omani half of the Strait is Omani territory and relinquishing control of access to it in anyway is relinquishing sovereignty over it. Littoral states can take a hike lest you are willing to afford the same "concessions" to Iran over the effects emanating from its territories that it does not control. Ridiculous of you to justify it and pretend that it's all ok "because Oman is not a maritime power". "It's a favor, you see?".

The codification of Iran's will over the Strait is to extort money, nothing more. Otherwise, it can deny unwanted access to the Strait as it is.

I don't get this lackey-ism and lack of self-awareness from you Pakistanis here.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

The Omani half of the Strait is Omani territory and relinquishing control of access to it in anyway is relinquishing sovereignty over it. Littoral states can take a hike lest you are willing to afford the same "concessions" to Iran over the effects emanating from its territories that it does not control. Ridiculous of you to justify it and pretend that it's all ok "because Oman is not a maritime power". "It's a favor, you see?".

I don't get this lackey-ism and lack of self-awareness from you Pakistanis here.

What I'm saying comes from the precedent that was set or was pushed along Omani throats.
It is a might makes right world... Oman backed right off as Orange issued his warning.
Case in point of littoral states is also a precedence set in Montreaux convention for warships and access denial. If Oman capitulates at the rim of the straits because of it's inability to enforce a code agreed upon between Iran and Oman... it is a safety concern for all littoral states ... who'd ideally want some kind of a mechanism worked out overtime to protect all shipping and commerce under a convention.

 

[tsunset]

The Omani half of the Strait is Omani territory and relinquishing control of access to it in anyway is relinquishing sovereignty over it. Littoral states can take a hike lest you are willing to afford the same "concessions" to Iran over the effects emanating from its territories that it does not control. Ridiculous of you to justify it and pretend that it's all ok "because Oman is not a maritime power". "It's a favor, you see?".

The codification of Iran's will over the Strait is to extort money, nothing more. Otherwise, it can deny unwanted access to the Strait as it is.

I don't get this lackey-ism and lack of self-awareness from you Pakistanis here.

Iran needs the money more than Oman does

 

[MS Sandhu]

And you think EU and U.S. would allow them to do that? If U.S. wanted to strike Iran’s energy facilities it would have in the last 4 months. Ukraine striking Iran’s energy would trip the world into a recession and hurt Ukraines allies more than Iran who is under an economic blockade and can’t even sell oil at the current time.



Ukraine is nothing without EU or U.S. if they halt weapons and funds, Ukraine will collapse. People like you making Ukraine into some superpower when it’s reliant on EU for money, weapons, medicine, food, and energy needs. If you gave Pakistan $100B+ in funds and $100B+ constant stream of weapons, it too could fight a forever war against India.

Iran is the one with nothing to lose being under economic warfare for 40 years.

Wars need to money to wage. Or else you become like Assad and your army stops fighting because it hasn’t been paid properly.

I believe Ukrainians are themselves very intelligent people.They have carried out very successful and impressive deep strikes in Russian Mainland i.e destroying Russian Bombers in its heartland being a great example.
EU and US support is indeed significant but Ukrainian will to fight out an enemy with huge firepower and extensive resources to support its war is simply unmatched.

 

[Persian Gulf]

People know Iran was the one who supplied Russia with drones which caused widespread destruction in Ukraine yet act surprise like a pikachu when Ukraine attacks Iranian ships and fantasize attacking Ukraine and vilify Zelensky who is defending his country from aggressors like Iran. Echo chamber this thread has become.

By this logic, Iran can attack German/British/American cargo ships and kill civilians on ships transporting anything to Israel.

 

[RzA]

The Omanese can either accept the new status quo or learn it the hard way like the Saudis. We're in a new era of ME geopolitics and some people are finding that hard to accept.

 

[Persian Gulf]

before and after images of massive FUCHS lubricant plant at Yanbu Industrial City, Saudi

23.940, 38.311

both buildings totally destroyed, wow

 

[Persian Gulf]

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before and after images of massive FUCHS lubricant plant at Yanbu Industrial City, Saudi

23.940, 38.311

both buildings totally destroyed, wow

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[Immortals]

I believe Ukrainians are themselves very intelligent people.They have carried out very successful and impressive deep strikes in Russian Mainland i.e destroying Russian Bombers in its heartland being a great example.

That’s with NATO satellite and U.S. providing targeting intelligence. That’s US mapping where Russian air defenses are and when radars operate and where blind spots exist. Ukraine didn’t magically acquire space based assets and real time intelligence. It was provided it by the West to pressure Russia to end the war. In turn Russia gave intelligence to Iran.

Billions and billions of weapons have been pumped into Ukraine. And Now the grifter in Chief, Zelensky is back in U.S. asking for license production of Patriot missiles.

EU and US support is indeed significant but Ukrainian will to fight out an enemy with huge firepower and extensive resources to support its war is simply unmatched.

EU/US support is the reason Kiev isn’t in the hands of Russia.

The resources and components come from the West! And they are bought with something called MONEY!

It’s amazing how you think a country can fight a war without external support propping up its economy, energy filling its vehicles, components going into its weapons, and the cash/gold to pay for it all.

If the West refuses to bankroll the war and no one gives Ukraine loans then it’s only a matter of time till Ukraine runs out of ammo and supplies needed to sustain the war.

You cannot wage a war without $$$$

 

[Bratva]

By this logic, Iran can attack German/British/American cargo ships and kill civilians on ships transporting anything to Israel.

Do remind me when Iran attacks Israel let alone attack commercial ships to/from israel. Only GCC infra and ships are facing the brunt of Iranian attacks.

Israel says US bombers used its bases to strike Iran​

Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz says American warplanes used Israeli bases during their attacks on Iran, reiterating that his country was prepared to retaliate if targeted, AFP reports.

“The fact is that, at the moment — and this could change within an hour — the Iranians are firing at everything in the region except one country: the State of Israel,” Katz tells Israel’s right-wing Channel 14.

“They know that American aircraft are taking off from here to carry out strikes,” he adds.

“This does not mean we know what will happen tomorrow; it means we know what our response will be. I announced it, the prime minister announced it, and we made it absolutely clear: if Israel comes under fire, we will strike back with full force,” Katz says.

 

[Immortals]

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Once again oil prices falling and U.S. stalling and wasting Iran’s time to move radars/AD around and resupply its forces.