What I'm saying is not that nukes have no use or ANY detterence. What I'm saying is that even with 6000 nukes, the West attacked Russia. Maybe they would have gone all-out themselves on Russia, but even then, Russia's conventional capabilities are vast, and Europe's aren't. The US sure. Neither the Us or Europe will allow huge military casualties, so it's a standoff-range war, like with Iran.
Any of you really think that if Iran had nukes, they would back off? Or that Iran would fire off nukes just because they get bombed? It's not how it works.
Nukes imo are MAD assurance between great powers or semi-great powers (like Pakistan vs India). Too much cost to bear. Or US/SU or now even China.
But nukes never prevented helping separatists, lobbing missiles etc. All missiles that Ukraine is firing into Russia are Western missiles, where even the buttons are pushed by Western 'specialists'. Simple as that. So go deter them with your 6000 nukes.
This isn't to say I'm against nukes, Iran should have 500 of them.
PS: also regarding North Korea. The reason nobody dares touch them is because China would step in, not because NYC would get nuked. NK has 10.000 pieces of artillery aimed at Seoul and they got China which has, with it's own blood, made clear NK is a red line (in the 1950s already). So nobody will come near NK.
