Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BigMela2onin]

Pezeshkian, Qalibaf and Khomeini jr are talking about surrender.

The system has been trying to surrender for 30+ years now, it's not new talk. Fighting a war goes against the goal of surrendering. It's why they jump off a cliff the instant the vague notion of a deal comes up.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Magi]

The system has been trying to surrender for 30+ years now, it's not new talk. Fighting a war goes against the goal of surrendering. It's why they jump off a cliff the instant the vague notion of a deal comes up.

But surrender will not be accepted. Are they too naive to see this after 30 years? What does it take?

 

[Immortals]

The system has been trying to surrender for 30+ years now, it's not new talk. Fighting a war goes against the goal of surrendering. It's why they jump off a cliff the instant the vague notion of a deal comes up.

IR of Iran will go down as one of the strangest governments in history. Its early life was characterized by extremely aggressive behavior that shocked the world and war hardened society with Generals willing to take the fight to the enemy. But its last 25 years has been the polar opposite of peace and poetry and no appetite for upholding deterrence.

Unfortunately it all goes back to Khamenai and the disaster it was electing him to Supreme Leader. Granted if the nod went to Rafsanjani then this country would have surrendered to America in 2000 let alone in 2026. He was even worse than Khamenai.

But the problem Iran had was it elected a founding leader (Khomeini) who was too old and before he could even change the country he was gone and a power vacuum began.

The issue is Khamenai was the polar opposite of Khomeini in foreign policy. And he became an isolationist and pacifist. In the process he weakened the country.

The assassination of Solemani in 2020 and the weak response that Khamenai ordered was the culmination of deterrence erosion in Syria for a decade prior.

The country needed Solemani today to give guidance. The Axis needed Solemani today to give guidance. Yet he was so enamored by martyrdom and chasing it at every corner he sentenced a nation to be ruled by his incompetent successors and an incompetent clergyman.

Without Solemani, the entire architecture of AoR unraveled. Nasrallah was another Khamenai. A pacifist who wanted more to give elaborate speeches than see war on his land. In the end both Nasrallah and Khamenai faced their demise due to their failure to uphold deterrence. But in the process they also condemned their respective countries to the wolves of the West.

 

[ShapurII]

But surrender will not be accepted. Are they too naive to see this after 30 years? What does it take?

They're too incompetent and stupid to even surrender properly.
There's no solution with this regime that hasn't been tested and failed.

I thought war would wake them up at least, but even war and getting their leader killed on the first day of war hasn't taught them a lesson. There's no hope left for them to wake up.

I remember how some of these people here said that if the US killed Khamenei, the entire Shiite people of the world will revolt and typical nonsense they say. lmao

 

[BigMela2onin]

But surrender will not be accepted. Are they too naive to see this after 30 years? What does it take?

Think about what they think they can get. A life like Ahmad Shah Qajar or the gulfie princelings have. More wealth then you can spend in 100 lifetimes. Most people would keep going after that until they die.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Trump is now ignoring these attacks on oil tankers

Iran must increase the scale of attacks on these tankers manifold. They are all following the same narrow defined route adjacent to Oman, it should be like shooting fish in a barrel

 

[Immortals]

 

[BHAN85]

I am going to do a press conference to tell you that calls are being made for some action in the future.


Its like going to your in laws and announcing that your lawyer is sending letters to your wife to start behaving or she will get something that may look like a divorce filing or may actually be a divorce filing and all to be decided sometime in the future.

I dont doubt they will do all the economic harm they can to Iran. And it will affect not only to Iran, but to GCC, when Iran will answer. Like Russia sanctions affected even more to EU than to Russia.

I have doubts about rest of Iran partners following USA orders, especially China.

But, what is the official reason to do it? Stop Iran developing nuclear weapons.
Have North Korea stopped nuclear weapons development with a worst economic situation than Iran? No.
So what they are trying to achieve?

If we ignore the BS USA says, and we observe the things USA do. USA is just impoverishing all their allies:
USA is impoverishing EU through Ukraine/Russia war.
USA is impoverishing Canada through tariffs.
USA is impoverishing GCC through Israel/Iran war.

The declining empire plan seems to F economically every ally they can.

Of course, Bessent, Soros' Bitch, doesnt need to know anything. Like rest of American gentiles elite, they just need to obey.

Pathetic empire is his decline, in the hands of a few American Jewish bankers who mock whole country constantly.

 

[HAIDER]

Every week UAE plane delivers cash to iran.what type of sanction.

 

[ShapurII]

Every week UAE plane delivers cash to iran.what type of sanction.

Is that why Iranian Rial has devalued by 10% in the last 4 days? lol Because of all the cash that the UAE is delivering to Iran? lol

 

[HAIDER]

Is that why Iranian Rial has devalued by 10% in the last 4 days? lol Because of all the cash that the UAE is delivering to Iran? lol

Well this 1 vs all situation. But new situation is emerging...US leaving Iraq on September 30th.

 

[ShapurII]

Well this 1 vs all situation. But new situation is emerging...US leaving Iraq on September 30th.

And Iraq is trying to disarm Hashd al-Sha3bi if you haven't read about it yet.
And Lebanon is trying to disarm Hezbollah.
And Saudi Arabia attacked Yemen out of nowhere for no reason.

 

[HAIDER]

And Iraq is trying to disarm Hashd al-Sha3bi if you haven't read about it yet.
And Lebanon is trying to disarm Hezbollah.
And Saudi Arabia attacked Yemen out of nowhere for no reason.

And will happen.. ..lol

 

[ShapurII]

And will happen.. ..lol

Yes, you're right. It is impossible to happen.

Just like it was impossible for the US to destroy Iran's nuclear program.
Just like it was impossible for Israel to defeat Hamas.
Just like it was impossible for the US to dare to kill Khamenei.
Just like it was impossible for Israel to launch a war on Iran.

It is absolutely impossible to disarm Hezbollah, Hashd Al-Shaabi, and defeating Houthis of Yemen is not possible even in theory, let alone in practice. You are right.