Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

Look at this retarded Logic. As if receiving its frozen funds would have done anything other than prolong the collapse. Iran currently has over 70M barrels of oil hanging out in SE Asia. That is enough to feed the countries revenue requirements for months. Also China or Russia could give Iran credit lines to buy items on credit.

Iran’s problem isn’t it doesn’t have enough cash, Iran’s problem is it doesn’t have a future in the current cycle of being enemies with America.

Iran’s only card in this war was causing global depression if Iran was blockaded into economic seige. Instead, iran simply changed the goal post to “don’t hit my refineries or oil fields if you don’t want me to hit yours”. That’s not the same thing. Not the same redline.

Now Iran has its refineries and oil facilities relatively intact and doing what? Nothing collecting dust. All because some reformists and pragmatists want this current government to collapse and they still have a country to rule over.

If Iran was truly a singular leadership with a single entity they would attack the energy facilities in the Persian Gulf and sacrifice their own. The mad dog doctrine and by sending the entire world into global depression it would have secured its rights.

Instead Irans leadership showed they are cowards who want to keep the country’s assets for a future government and want to finesse their way out of this war like its game of cards.

In short, this government didn’t have guts. The crazy Zionists have guts. The crazy Americans have guts. But Russian and Iranian leadership? Just fake bravado.

 

[Magi]

Instead Irans leadership showed they are cowards who want to keep the country’s assets for a future government and want to finesse their way out of this war like its game of cards.

They further foreign interests at every juncture. Why does everyone insist on absolving these malicious characters by calling them low IQ or cowardly?

They act like infiltrators and foreign agents. If they are simply naive, remove them. Why keep low IQ cowards in charge of determining the future of Iran? Send them to "negotiate" with the inventors of lawfare? It should be easy to fire them if they are so low IQ, right?

 

[BigMela2onin]

Pezeshkian, Qalibaf and Khomeini jr are talking about surrender.

The system has been trying to surrender for 30+ years now, it's not new talk. Fighting a war goes against the goal of surrendering. It's why they jump off a cliff the instant the vague notion of a deal comes up.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Magi]

The system has been trying to surrender for 30+ years now, it's not new talk. Fighting a war goes against the goal of surrendering. It's why they jump off a cliff the instant the vague notion of a deal comes up.

But surrender will not be accepted. Are they too naive to see this after 30 years? What does it take?

 

[Immortals]

The system has been trying to surrender for 30+ years now, it's not new talk. Fighting a war goes against the goal of surrendering. It's why they jump off a cliff the instant the vague notion of a deal comes up.

IR of Iran will go down as one of the strangest governments in history. Its early life was characterized by extremely aggressive behavior that shocked the world and war hardened society with Generals willing to take the fight to the enemy. But its last 25 years has been the polar opposite of peace and poetry and no appetite for upholding deterrence.

Unfortunately it all goes back to Khamenai and the disaster it was electing him to Supreme Leader. Granted if the nod went to Rafsanjani then this country would have surrendered to America in 2000 let alone in 2026. He was even worse than Khamenai.

But the problem Iran had was it elected a founding leader (Khomeini) who was too old and before he could even change the country he was gone and a power vacuum began.

The issue is Khamenai was the polar opposite of Khomeini in foreign policy. And he became an isolationist and pacifist. In the process he weakened the country.

The assassination of Solemani in 2020 and the weak response that Khamenai ordered was the culmination of deterrence erosion in Syria for a decade prior.

The country needed Solemani today to give guidance. The Axis needed Solemani today to give guidance. Yet he was so enamored by martyrdom and chasing it at every corner he sentenced a nation to be ruled by his incompetent successors and an incompetent clergyman.

Without Solemani, the entire architecture of AoR unraveled. Nasrallah was another Khamenai. A pacifist who wanted more to give elaborate speeches than see war on his land. In the end both Nasrallah and Khamenai faced their demise due to their failure to uphold deterrence. But in the process they also condemned their respective countries to the wolves of the West.

 

[ShapurII]

But surrender will not be accepted. Are they too naive to see this after 30 years? What does it take?

They're too incompetent and stupid to even surrender properly.
There's no solution with this regime that hasn't been tested and failed.

I thought war would wake them up at least, but even war and getting their leader killed on the first day of war hasn't taught them a lesson. There's no hope left for them to wake up.

I remember how some of these people here said that if the US killed Khamenei, the entire Shiite people of the world will revolt and typical nonsense they say. lmao

 

[BigMela2onin]

But surrender will not be accepted. Are they too naive to see this after 30 years? What does it take?

Think about what they think they can get. A life like Ahmad Shah Qajar or the gulfie princelings have. More wealth then you can spend in 100 lifetimes. Most people would keep going after that until they die.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Trump is now ignoring these attacks on oil tankers

Iran must increase the scale of attacks on these tankers manifold. They are all following the same narrow defined route adjacent to Oman, it should be like shooting fish in a barrel