Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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[Falcon29]

Mecca pact isn’t going to make a bunch of irrelevant countries relevant.

There’s always a daddy in such a pact (NATO, Warsaw, Pax Romana) - whose going to accept Turkey as the daddy in this pact?

Unless Arabs accept Turkey as the daddy - Mecca pact is dead. And the Turks have contempt for the Arabs.

What makes you think these countries are irrelevant? Provide objective data or even your subjective opinion. 'They're irrelevant because we hate them' isn't a strong argument.

I believe the pact will survive and continue to evolve not as a NATO style alliance but on a deeper mutual cooperation basis.

 

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[925boy]

Both of these are assumptions not facts. Iran did not say how much they have in reserves, especially in terms of dollars or other currencies. We heard allot of statements made by Iranian officials and they have made exaggerated claims plenty so we dont know how much truth is in this. One good indicator will be its currency value and inflation levels, both which are suffering immensely.

If Iran has enough of yuan or access to yuans from China ,because Iran
Probably gets most imports from China then Iran has "enough reserves" as it's central bank governor said. Why should Iran central bank divulge all of Iran sensitive finances to the world when Iran is at war and it's enemies will use its financial information against Iran? Afterall US already said publicly it's lainched a campaign to shutdown Iran economically. also remember that all of Iran money and finances aren't stored in and managed by it's central bank.

 

[r3alist]

Exactly. Any oil firm with a contract in South America, e.g. Chevron in Venezuela particularly, will be rubbing their hands in excitement at every Hormuz tanker set alight.

It will accelerate their growth, Iranian oil will be frozen out, eventually russian oil will come back but Iran will set GCC back along with itself

 

[BananaRepublic]

Doubtful. Why would they want that ? We don't even know if Iran is capable of that. Is Iran willing to risk war with GCC? Or lose popular support in region?

Again that's doubtful. If Russia was seeing eye to eye on such a strategic level with Iran it would have supplied it fighter jets or other weapons systems in the past. It's most likely they told Iran to cease attacks on oil tankers to get relief or something so they can flood market with their natural gas/diesel and whatever else Trump is asking them to do. Basically only for Russia's gain primarily.

How does more oil flowing through the SoH help Russia?

You are playing Trumpian 3-D CHESS.

Which always blows up in Trump’s face.

 

[Immortals]

 

[r3alist]

If Iran has enough of yuan or access to yuans from China ,because Iran
Probably gets most imports from China then Iran has "enough reserves" as it's central bank governor said. Why should Iran central bank divulge all of Iran sensitive finances to the world when Iran is at war and it's enemies will use its financial information against Iran? Afterall US already said publicly it's lainched a campaign to shutdown Iran economically. also remember that all of Iran money and finances aren't stored in and managed by it's central bank.

 

[Immortals]

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Iran international is saudi-israeli spy network.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Ali_Baba]

Why still “considering?”

 

[Falcon29]

How does more oil flowing through the SoH help Russia?

You are playing Trumpian 3-D CHESS.

Which always blows up in Trump’s face.

It doesn't help or hurt Russia. It helps them secure some concessions by Trump such as waiving sanctions on their oil/gas exports to Europe and maybe some calm European front. Russia could use some money from oil sales.

 

[BananaRepublic]

It will accelerate their growth, Iranian oil will be frozen out, eventually russian oil will come back but Iran will set GCC back along with itself

Iran can survive without oil.

Arabs and Gulfies cannot.

Remember, Iran was a prosperous civilisation long before oil.

Without oil Arabs were piss poor.

Iran needs USA out of ME more than it needs oil.

Iran can grow without oil.

Iran cannot grow by being a US bootlicker like its neighbours.