Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Snake]

Consider the following scenario:

If that was actually possible, why the Russians aren't selling Su-35 and whatever else Iran wants already?

Russia is selling SU-35 to Iran I'm not sure what you mean.

Azerbaijan and Caucasian region are sensitive for Russia.. long story that could be dangerous for half of Russian land, that's why new Russian national doctrine consider fundamental changes on Caucasus, with Armenia in Russian and Azerbaijan in Iranian sphere of influence....

Your story is now old and unrealistic anymore...

Russia has improved relations with Azerbaijan after their Karabakh victory. Armenia is no longer in Russian influence and is the only source of trouble in the region for Russia. However Armenia is well contained. The biggest problem for Russia historically has been with the European borders and that is where they will be focused.

Zio-US has declared war on Russia over Ukraine.

The days of deals like this are over.

Russia should never be fully trusted but there are now mutual interests where Russia can supply stuff and intelligence. It is not like Iran has no leverage as it supplied drones and ballistic missiles to Russia. That was not just a cash transaction but something more.

Russia has already received the missiles and drones in its time of need - that leverage won't be applicable if US-Israel-Iran war starts. In times of big wars favors such as these can be easily forgotten. With regards to the Ukraine war it is a US only project the zionists have interests on both sides of this conflict and are watching from the sidelines.

 

[PakFactor]

Hi,

If you are prepared---then good for you---.

But neither is Iran prepared or Egypt prepared or TurKiye prepared---.

None of these nations have frontline 4-4.5 gen aircraft with equal capability to the enemy's---.

Iran can blame it on sanctions

Tukiye has been Lollygagging---unless it has comparable bvr missiles to the enemy 4-4.5 gen aircraft---it sits in a quandry

And then there is Egypt---caught one more time with totally inerior BVR weapons than the enemy's.

Who's fault is that? While the rest were playing chess, we were playing checkers.

The fault with all those you mentioned and some more is that they placed their full faith and trust in the U.S., to begin with. They've tied themselves to the U.S. in such ways that independent movement of foreign policy is suicide for them. You practically invited them to your region and allowed them unfettered access.

After World War II, the U.S. and Europe funded various developments and built up the United States as the new powerhouse, and Western Civilization reaped its benefits by tying itself to it; they found common ground that bound them together, yet the Muslims had one bond tying them all their religion, and they couldn't even exploit that and got involved in petty quibbles down to the tribal level when the Europeans tossed it all out. The problem with Asians, Africans, and the Middle East is that we've never followed a similar model and built up our power centers. If we do have them, we have within our neighborhood that would go to the earth's lengths to sabotage them, and UAE, KSA, Turkey, Iran, and Pakistan are just a few examples who would destroy them for upmanship. This includes providing diplomatic cover to corrupt individuals, and we've been warned against supporting corrupt people in the books.

Now, the Islamic World is at a point where they control nothing in terms of technology, R&D, education, or economic levers in the world; you think the West will allow those said countries to build up and make the same mistake they did with China? You can see from Bajwa's thinking how ungrateful that son of a Bitch is, and the rest of his kind isn't that far off; the Chinese know that just as the Native Americans said, the white man speaks with a forked tongue, so to the Pakistanis. Right now, the Chinese, while maintaining relations, know the Pakistanis can't be fully trusted, and they are similarly distasteful of the rest of the Muslims.

Rather than developing human resources to further Islamic civilization, they compete to build residences, palm tree islands, and towers, an unproductive endeavor. For the record, Western Civilization has won, hadith mention as such; I care not if only one man remaining is Muslim at the end of times; what pains me more is knowing we will be reduced to nothingness.

There are other deeper societal issues, but that's for another time.

 

[jauk]

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Yes, why?

 

[tsunset]

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[Sarhang]

If the Islamic Republic doesn't respond to this attack soon, it has definitely lost the escalation ladder. Israel's attack was a serious attack and much more destructive and deadlier than TP II.

The Israelis want IR to respond so they can go after the energy facilities.

IR is in a difficult situation. Don't respond and look pathetic and weak. Respond and lose your important energy sites.

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[Mehdipersian]

The Israelis want IR to respond so they can go after the energy facilities.

IR is in a difficult situation. Don't respond and look pathetic and weak. Respond and lose your important energy sites.

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Israel is very small, all their infrastructure will be destroyed in a few Iranian attacks.

 

[vmro]

But I doubt that sub-munitions would be able to penetrate F-35 hangars.

F35 show scenario was written, produced and performed by Americans, to satisfy zionists that are precise, we already knew that, and to not piss off Iranians to emotional disproportionate counterattack...

The Resistance has been forward leaning and attacking Zionia for decades. This will not change. We are now in the final stages.

They will now start old dirty tricks, making internal issues

Russia is selling SU-35 to Iran I'm not sure what you mean.


Russia has improved relations with Azerbaijan after their Karabakh victory. Armenia is no longer in Russian influence and is the only source of trouble in the region for Russia. However Armenia is well contained. The biggest problem for Russia historically has been with the European borders and that is where they will be focused.



Russia has already received the missiles and drones in its time of need - that leverage won't be applicable if US-Israel-Iran war starts. In times of big wars favors such as these can be easily forgotten. With regards to the Ukraine war it is a US only project the zionists have interests on both sides of this conflict and are watching from the sidelines.

Don't get me wrong, but your opinion is based on daily news report... Impotent Europe is no longer threat even for Sub-Saharan quasi states, where protection of their last colonies is breaking apart...after Ukraine, Russia and rest of the world will not have any possible threat from Europe...

Armenia in this moment has western puppets in the government, but that means nothing in strategic planning, and that government is near collapse...preserving of Armenian national state is ultimate strategic goal of Russia, beacause the real threat for Russia is increasingly activ Turkistan, that if Turkey and Azerbaijan achieve the goal of safe corridor, from Chinese borders to Mediterranean we will have king of kings Erdogan, encircled with other turkic satraps, stabbing Russian stomach...

Iran is witnessed Israeli led operation from Azerbaijan, but in the future we will see more and more meetings of Turkistan, debating about tragic fate of their turkic brothers in Iran, under repressive Persian ocupators, and way of their liberation...

This is not dangerous only for teritory of iran and more for russi....

Such corridor is new kind of degradation to Russia and Iran, making them unnecessary for direct Chinese link to Europe...

If Israel really working on realixing front on Hezbollah, that means start of old strategy for new front of Iranian confrontation and circumstantial changes to make base of supporting population inside Iran, maybe good old NGO for cultural influence, always first and crucial step for installing infrastructure...

And they had planned third, Arabic front against Iran, where Arabian leaders were heavily armed with public statements and declarations, but Arabians will hardly defend own borders, fighting with Iran is nightmare...so Israel can't count this as serious to be considered...

 

[Hack-Hook]

Ok. But all of that sounds a bit too far fetched. Why can't the F-15s launch longer range missiles instead?

physique law , it follow a ballistic path it depend on what angle you fire the missile.

 

[LongLiveIran]

The Israelis want IR to respond so they can go after the energy facilities.

IR is in a difficult situation. Don't respond and look pathetic and weak. Respond and lose your important energy sites.

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I highly doubt that Israel would dare to go for energy infrastructure of Iran.
Iran can return the favor and Israel will lose a lot more than Iran in that situation.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[hussain0216]

Israel is very small, all their infrastructure will be destroyed in a few Iranian attacks.

Israels water desalination plants and central energy system should be a prime target

Even their high tech industry has only a few thousand dedicated employees in specific areas

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Hezbollah defeated the child-killing Zionist forces, so their Western backers are stoking civil war in Lebanon.

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[Pakistan Space Agency]

What about the first and the second promises?

 

[tsunset]

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[tsunset]

Hezbollah defeated the child-killing Zionist forces, so their Western backers are stoking civil war in Lebanon.

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Hezbollah will roll on the Lebanese "army" in not even a week, as PMU did in Iraq

We are talking about Hezbollah, 100K+ fighters with tremendous experience that do not fear death across the region since decades, against an umpteenth "uprisings" attempt