Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[vmro]

no proof Syria has Fateh-313. they have a local variant of Fateh-110

Ideal type for Syria, cheap and deadly, precise and entire Israel is possible target...but being president of Syria in this time is among worst and hardest job...he is minority with his shia community, and there is not stable majority at all...isis was sadam Hussein ver.2, anti-persian shield but both failed...great kurdistan also failed in reality, where is great opposition among Kurds themselves, who don’t like state...state like useless social construction...iran or Kurdistan, both are equally boring and difficult to be accept...you can find many sadness in human rights organizations, with authors that never left own office...

But they are experts for Kurdish cause, with shocking atrocities over Kurdish poor people...they have numbers...but numbers don't tell that is about bloody fights between several leading Kurdish clans...

Both of this anti-iranian concepts failed in Syria...it would be wise starting with full production....

 

[jauk]

Incomplete or false and childish? make your mind up

Incomplete. Childish. Misrepresenting.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Incomplete. Childish. Misrepresenting.

your short responses are borderline trolling and will be treated as such, post constructively

 

[Persian Gulf]

game theory decision tree analysis of the current cycle of violence between Iran and Israel

 

[FHN]

I don't see why US boots would be needed, especially grunts. Even if a limited number of US specialists are needed, they would be far from the front lines.

I was surprised that THAAD requires US personnel; I would have expected them to teach Israelis how to operate it.

War with Iran won't happen without boots on the ground. I personally don't think Israel will put up much of a fight. They would have to go through hostile territories in Syria and Iraq before reaching Iranian border lol.the only saving grace for Israel is it's air force. Israel will never commit ground offensive on Iran that's suicidal. They will drag the US in and let them do the heavy work.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Tel Aviv hit by Hezbollah missiles

 

[925boy]

It's war.

Then let NATO get ready again- It exited Afghanistan with its tail between its legs, and then ran into a Slavic onslaught in Ukraine, only to now be ready for 2-3 times another Afghanistan war aka combating the Iranian military network in the Middle East?

People keep looking at all the shiny toys that Israeli and US airforces fly in the skies...meanwhile, they are lacking badly on the ground front- US and UK have only sent 500 special forces into Yemen, even after Houthis fired at 202 ships since they started naval operations to support Gaza. If NATO is afraid to set 1 leg on Yemeni land,how will they set 1 foot on Iranian soil? NATO is lacking sufficient numbers of ground forces for a middle east war. Hezbollah's haters on this thread have gone quiet- i screenshotted some of your posts about related topics, dont worry.

 

[Falcon29]

This report doesn't make much sense as US/Israel are active over Iraqi airspace and monitoring it more closely. They would strike the missiles if they saw them being moved around in Iraq if they aren't already prepared beforehand.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Christianity is also responsible for the genocide and massacre of Aztecs and all ethnicities of Native Americans in South and North Americas in the past.... When Muslims conquered Iberia they never genocided the locals only some converted... And Jews and Christians are still allowed to live in Muslim lands without changing their religion as long as they pay higher taxes.... While the Christians in the past persecuted Jews and banished Muslims wherever they conquered...

That was not because Christianity blame Silver and Gold and power for that

 

[Falcon29]

Then let NATO get ready again- It exited Afghanistan with its tail between its legs, and then ran into a Slavic onslaught in Ukraine, only to now be ready for 2-3 times another Afghanistan war aka combating the Iranian military network in the Middle East?

People keep looking at all the shiny toys that Israeli and US airforces fly in the skies...meanwhile, they are lacking badly on the ground front- US and UK have only sent 500 special forces into Yemen, even after Houthis fired at 202 ships since they started naval operations to support Gaza. If NATO is afraid to set 1 leg on Yemeni land,how will they set 1 foot on Iranian soil? NATO is lacking sufficient numbers of ground forces for a middle east war. Hezbollah's haters on this thread have gone quiet- i screenshotted some of your posts about related topics, dont worry.

You are right about that. I've been saying that US and NATO cannot afford a large war in the middle east, with multiple parties involved (esp Arab states against their will), with Gaza as the focal point. Locals will win such a war as in this context they would be fighting on the right side and for a ethical cause....

 

[Immortals]

Tel Aviv hit by Hezbollah missiles

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Warhead looks light

 

[925boy]

I don't think the settlers will commit suicide if Iran slaps them down a peg or two.

Maybe not suicide, but maybe suicide by attrition?

Netanyahu was shaking like a leaf after Operation True Promise 2.

oooooohhh yeaa he was. The nation was probably shaken too- many things were shattered, literally, psychologically, politically, technically, aspirationally, religiously, militarily, kinetically- and that was a small dose.

I think there are a few people on this thread who no matter how good Iran's military operations against Israel are- they must find a fault - "it was ineffective"- wtf you mean TPII was ineffective? maybe it was ineffective in that it didnt do alot of damage to the locations it hit, but it was surely effective in destroying the myth of Israel's IAD's effectiveness and Israel's military competency. "effective' has multiple but important meanings in the context of Iran's strikes on Israel- they have been effective where effectiveness mattered the most.

 

[925boy]

And you think the US will somehow magically stop supporting them if Iran effectively wipes them off the map by hitting their vital infrastructure?

We (Iran) cannot fight back against the US. Yes, we can hit US military bases, destroy their aircraft carriers, etc. But at the end of the day, Iran has no effective way of hurting the US mainland while the US can and will do that.
The US nuclear arsenal has a destructive power of several giga tones. Even if we assume Iran has nukes, or will develop them immediately, our destructive power will hardly reach even one mega tone.

Are you sure about that? Iran is only a few months away from an actual ICBM and nuclear weapon (combo), so i dont believe US is actually that far from Iran's reach- US is fully within North Korea's nuclear ICBM range as we speak, it wasn't that way 10-20 years ago or so. US will do some damage inside Iran, but Iran will hold out successfully and declare victory, then US will try to forget the war like it did with its Afghanistan war.

 

[925boy]

My point is that they (the West and Israel) want war.

based on what?

They have already decided that they want war with Iran

i dont really think so- if they did, for one, Israel would have hit Iran harder. NATO is already drained from the Ukraine war- they told Israel to not hit Iran hard (or its hardest)so it wouldn't start a war between Iran and Israel which NATO isn't equipped to handle at the moment.

and even if we don't give them an excuse for that, they will make one after another.

Hasn't happened yet- they need all their military forces focused on Russia at the moment, US military posture in the ME is not large and when it is, it isn't sustainable.

So, at this point, we have no choice but to defend ourselves to the best of our ability.

YOu have to defend yourselves because Israel has gone crazy, on your country, so that is a normal reaction- if Israel is possessed, then Iran must open silos and release kinetic ballistics to reorient Israel out of its supremacist demonic existence.

In my opinion, we should level up our deterrence by going after high-yield nuclear weapons.

hmmm....thats high risk and low reward IMO. Hit Israel where it needs to function and satisfy citizens and the supremacist state- make it unlivable, like its made its region. Make the sadists sad. You can say eye for an eye is barbaric, but you can't say its not fair.

 

[maverick]

War with Iran won't happen without boots on the ground. I personally don't think Israel will put up much of a fight. They would have to go through hostile territories in Syria and Iraq before reaching Iranian border lol.the only saving grace for Israel is it's air force. Israel will never commit ground offensive on Iran that's suicidal. They will drag the US in and let them do the heavy work.

people might be hostile but they control govt and proxies till Baghdad..