LongLiveIran
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An SLBM? Ha!
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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An SLBM? Ha!
Aziqbal
Elite Member
they do realise that Israel still has to recover from the bruises that Iran dealt them 2 times before
at least let the bruises heal before you go back into getting a smashing again
True Promise 3 is set to be more deadlier than the second operation
we are looking at upwards of 500 ballistic missiles hitting key infrastructure and sensitive sites
and when Iranians launch they do it synchronised and simultaneous this definitely makes it harder to intercept
and Iran has over 2,000 launches from underground faculties and in theory can hit much harder
the Hypersonic missiles will have deadly effect
God Bless Iran the 1 brother which stands up for the 57 sisters who are wearing bangles and jewellery and many of their husbands are siding with Israel
the road to victory is a long and hard one, but Islamic Republic of Iran walks alone with its over 5,000 year history and War beats from when Islam brought it into the fold of victory
its a bloody battle of attrition lets see who has the stamina
God Bless Iran
Tamerlane
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I agree that in the short term it doesn't matter which party wins because both are in the pocket of the Jews. However, it can be different in the longer term of a few years.
Using all possible means of predicting the future, including watching news, conjecture, prophecy, logic, gut feeling, etc. the following can be surmised:
1. There will be one or many large-scale wars.
2. There will be a lot of destruction.
3. Israel will cease to exist.
4. Muslims will win.
5. There will be peace and prosperity.
However, Israel's continuing existence requires two conditions to be met: The US must be able AND willing to protect Israel. Please note that BOTH conditions must be met.
Since Israel is predicted to be gone it means that either the US will not be willing, or it will not be able to help Israel in the near future. That means that the US will either turn against Israel or it will become so busy in its own troubles that it won't be able to help Israel. I think that it will be the latter. There is a high chance that internal troubles may start soon after the elections.
It's all conjecture, but something to keep in mind.
UKBengali
Elite Member
Best way to get the US squabbling with itself and alienating even its western allies is for a Trump victory.
The Europeans used to laugh at Trump in conference meetings when he was in power last.
LongLiveIran
Registered Member
I agree with your analysis. I think once today's Gen Z eventually and inevitably enters high managerial positions in the US in 2-3 decades it will be over for the Jewish lobby but that will take time. I think the US will lose her global dominance sooner than 2-3 decades. The UK used to be the world's dominant power until suddenly it was no more. Today, the UK is hardly a global power anymore. More like a middle power that inherited her glorious past. That fate is awaiting the US as well.
Tamerlane
Trusted Member
Yes, I think that the days of the US as a superpower are coming to an end. The more atrocities it commits the sooner will the hammer of God's judgement fall on it. The intolerable level of atrocities that US-Israel are committing makes me think that the end will be much sooner than anyone realizes.
Zionist source. For what it’s worth:
tsunset
The Legend
I am wondering how Artesh is going to participate in hammering Israel
There's no way Artesh is going to send fighters or warships to bomb Israel
Submarines maybe? But Iran doesn't have submarines capable of launch long range missiles
So drones are more probable
LongLiveIran
Registered Member
Artesh has both Kaman-12 and Kaman-22 that are capable of hitting Israel but I doubt that the Army would risk using those drones because the US forces will have tens of jet fighters airborne to shoot them down and these aren't cheap drones.
Maybe in combination with the IRGC swarm drones, Artesh would use their drones as well but that still seems unlikely.
PK784
Registered Member
Full article:
Exclusive | Iran Tells Region ‘Strong and Complex’ Attack Coming on Israel
Amid U.S. warnings against a counterattack on Israel, Iran is sending a defiant diplomatic message: It is planning a complex response involving even more powerful warheads and other weapons, said Iranian and Arab officials briefed on the plans.
It remains to be seen whether the Iranian threats are real or just tough talk. Israel’s punishing airstrike against Iran on Oct. 26 shredded the country’s strategic air defenses, leaving it badly exposed and sharply raising the risks to Iran if it follows through.
How the Israeli response plays out will depend on the size, nature and effectiveness of Tehran’s threatened strike. So far, Israel has refrained from hitting Iran’s oil and nuclear facilities, essential to its economy and its security, but that calculus could change, Israeli officials have said.
Iran has told Arab diplomats that its conventional army would be involved because it had lost four soldiers and a civilian in Israel’s attack, the Iranian and Arab officials said. Involving its regular army doesn’t mean its troops would be deployed but that the paramilitary Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps that normally deals with Israeli security matters wouldn’t act alone in this case.
An Egyptian official said Iran warned privately of a “strong and complex” response.
“Our military lost people, so they need to respond,” said an Iranian official. He said Iran could use Iraqi territory for part of the operation and would likely target Israeli military facilities “but much more aggressively than last time.”
Iran isn’t planning to limit its response to missiles and drones, as two previous attacks did, and any missiles used would have more powerful warheads, the Iranian and Arab officials said. Iran said it mostly fired four different types of medium-range ballistic missiles in its last attack on Israel on Oct. 1—Emad and Ghadr missiles and two of Iran’s newest and most advanced, Kheibar Shekan and Fattah.
Another factor in Iran’s response is the U.S. election, the Iranian official said. Iran doesn’t want to influence the U.S. election with its attack, the official said, adding the response would come after Tuesday’s voting but before a new president is inaugurated in January. Iran prefers Kamala Harris over Donald Trump, according to U.S. intelligence agencies.
Officials from Egypt, Bahrain and Oman said Iranian diplomats gave those broad outlines of the response after warnings from the U.S., both public and private, against engaging in a tit-for-tat with Israel.
Linda Thomas-Greenfield, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said last week there would be “severe consequences” if Iran attacked Israel or the U.S.
“We believe this should be the end of the direct exchange of fire between Israel and Iran,” she said.
Following Israel’s attack, Iranian officials initially told other countries in the region that it didn’t intend to respond. Within days, the tone shifted.
On Friday, a top Iranian general threatened “an unimaginable response,” and the country’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, weighed in Saturday to warn of a “tooth-breaking response.”
Western officials say they believe Iranian decision makers are debating how and whether Iran should respond, including whether an attack should come directly or from proxies outside Iran to offer a layer of deniability. Israeli officials also believe Iran is seriously considering a response and have warned they are willing to mount a far more aggressive attack in return.
Last week, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the Israeli military had struck Iran’s “soft underbelly” and dismissed “haughty words” from Tehran’s leaders. “Today, Israel has greater freedom of action than ever before,” Netanyahu said. “We can go anywhere that we need to in Iran.”
The U.S. worked to limit Israel’s Oct. 26 attack to military targets, leaving Iran’s nuclear and oil facilities alone. The Arab officials said they were worried Israel wouldn’t be restrained this time, and Netanyahu reiterated last week that preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons remains Israel’s “supreme objective.” Iran denies it is working to build a nuclear weapon.
Israel signaled it could hit these types of targets in its Oct. 26 attack. It struck a facility Iran had in the past used for nuclear weapons work. Satellite imagery showed Israel also hit a very low value target at Iran’s Abadan refinery, experts said.
On Sunday, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian said his country can’t let Israel’s attack go unanswered. However, in a sign that Iran is still debating how to retaliate, he said “the type and intensity of our response” could change if there were a cease-fire in Gaza and Lebanon.
The U.S. said its military wasn’t involved in Israel’s most recent attack on Iran, but any retaliation would likely involve American forces helping defend Israel. U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has ordered several B-52 Stratofortress bomber aircraft, tanker aircraft and Navy destroyers to the Middle East, the Pentagon said Friday.
The additional military assets will arrive as the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group is expected to leave the region. The U.S. will be without a carrier and its accompanying ships in the region for the first time since shortly after Hamas attacked Israel in October 2023.
The more they shoot down the better.
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