Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[tower9]

It’s not about fighting, it’s about deterrence. China has the clout to force Trump to pause, if Trump knows it’s Chinese fighters and ISR planes manned by Chinese pilots and crew in the air. Besides, China would be restraining Iran and that would be to Trump’s favor.

Now Iran could wager that their nuclear program would be destroyed but their regime would survive. It seems like they don’t want to stop at the program, Israel wants to drag the us into causing regime change. So the Iranians have to figure out expensive Chinese help is better or risking their regime’s survival. China is probably the best country for them to make this deal with, as China would not interfere in their internal affairs and only stick to their strict bargain, not very different to the gulf monarchies and their protection deal with the US.

The PLAAF probably wouldn’t go to fight foreign air forces in a sector of Iranian air space, but once foreign aircraft leave that air space, they would move in and maintain CAPs to secure it, creating a situation where foreign air forces would risk having to fight Chinese aircraft if they returned.

The PLAAF and PLAN would get real world experience as a high end peacekeeping force.

Unless China or Russia are able to include Iran under their nuclear umbrella, I don't see where it makes sense for Iran to give up their nuclear program. Otherwise they will be subject to nuclear blackmail again.

 

[PakFactor]

F thinking! I'm tired I have a headache my sister tells me her boyfriend/fiancé on the USS Vinson just got extended 10 more days.

Think for me just this time... what I miss?

Good to know; ask your sister to join this forum so we can get answers to our questions.

 

[arjunk]

If the Americans get involved then it's Asim Muneer lobbying vs Netanyahu lobbying. I think we all know who's got more influence on the US govt but I am hoping Hafiz sb can try to at least minimize the scope of the war, especially keeping in mind domestic American pressure.

Please ask if they are being served Steak and Lobster... Then we know for sure!
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Lobster has been served.

 

[Mustang125]

OPSEC right outta the window... Too late now, what was the wordings on that old poster "Something about Loose lips?"

And I thought Pakistanis were bad with OPSEC... Christ

Sir most Pakistanis wouldn’t know what OPSEC even means worst of all some baba Jees would probably replace the C in OPSEC with another letter sadly lol.

 

[Lulldapull]

Indian air force and indians in general are clowns

Iranians despite all their short comings can't be compared with them

At least iranians are fighting USA when they fight Israel

Irani will be just fine cuz theys a fukkin nation for 2500 years no? And theys floating on young educated people and technology (evidently) as seen in dis conflict using their own weaponry (unlike us cuz wes ain't got any)......fukking clear as day no? Lets not compare ourselves wid dem no?

Our drama is Sangh RSS/ BJP dalit armies assembled against us to our east.......What do we do about this existential threat?

Where Iran (obviously succeeding here against a superpower and his lieutenant) vs our shit drama with a western backed dalit kingdumb to our east? problem is these diarrhea guys are a $5 trillion economy today no?

I only interested in an intellectual response.......

Don't bother otherwise........

 

[RescueRanger]

If the Americans get involved then it's Asim Muneer lobbying vs Netanyahu lobbying. I think we all know who's got more influence on the US govt but I am hoping Hafiz sb can try to at least minimize the scope of the war, especially keeping in mind domestic American pressure.



Lobster has been served.

If they have been extended as per comment - then yes seems so - in which case, hold onto your hat... It could get windy.

 

[arjunk]

And I thought Pakistanis were bad with OPSEC... Christ

Nah we are worse, remember the idiot who recorded AAA gun in Lahore, and then 10 minutes later it got hit by a suicide drone?

 

[RescueRanger]

Sir most Pakistanis wouldn’t know what OPSEC even means worst of all some baba Jees would probably replace the C in OPSEC with another letter sadly lol.

I am referring to our boys in uniform. I think we did reasonably well with OPSEC during India - Pak, I had that thread on lockdown...

 

[Hareeb]

Why they concerned?

Location sharing of potential enemy to US and Israel by WhatsApp/Instagram.

 

[arjunk]

then 10 minutes later it got hit by a suicide drone?

He also recorded the hit and posted it so Indians could do BDA

 

[Hakwa Nadro]

Zionists finding out what it's like to be a monkey in a cage, no wonder Trump and the west are getting worried :

is it just me or those women look shell-shocked

 

[Watandar]

F thinking! I'm tired I have a headache my sister tells me her boyfriend/fiancé on the USS Vinson just got extended 10 more days.

Think for me just this time... what I miss?

Iran launched another volley of 20 to 30 missiles. There were reported impacts and even some videos but then everything got muddled due to censorship in Israel plus internet disinfo.

The US is on the verge of joining the Israeli bombing campaign, despite resistence from MAGA wing of Trump base.

 

[hasn2009]

US has been unusually kind on Pakistan for last few months, I wonder what was that investment of goodwill for? But about the Iran action, Pakistan will obv say no, but thats not what US is used to hear. So in the end I see 2 possibilities.

1. Pakistan says clear no and US starts using India again to press us.
2. Pakistan obliges to help US but only overtly and in media keep giving fake narrative of supporting Iran. And if you see for the last week, Pakistan has been unusually pro-Iran, yes Pakistan-Iran are good friends but still there are some gaps, and definitely their is a very tiny minority in Pakistan who are happy Israel is striking Iranians.

 

[RescueRanger]

He also recorded the hit and posted it so Indians could do BDA

I know what an absolute retard. @Panzerkiel sir please take note - boys should not have mobile phones in next engagement - no videos, anyone making videos serious chitrol.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Right now? No missile alerts in Israel yet.

They were part of the previous barrage. The times posted on those tweets were at least an half and hour ago.