Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Bharatah said:
The Houthis in Yemen (who are weaker than Iran) confronted the US Navy and won. The Americans were expelled from the region—even after deploying B-2 stealth bombers, F-117s, aircraft carrier, A.I and etc.
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Those who have the least to lose, are willing to lose it all.
There is no comparison between the Houthis and the Iranians.
 
Brutal. said:
America is no democracy thats for sure. People vote for no war but president goes to war to protect israel. America is a dictatorship and netanyahu is its dictator. It is the strongest slave nation of modern times. And we cry about Pakistan.
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After WW2, it became the empire, which president Eisenhower warned us about it. JFK challenged this mil-industrial complex and paid the price.

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Bharatah said:
The Houthis in Yemen (who are weaker than Iran) confronted the US Navy and won. The Americans were expelled from the region—even after deploying B-2 stealth bombers, F-117s, aircraft carrier, A.I and etc.
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So when will Iran hire YOU for 'military consultant'?
 
gambit said:
Good...That is EXACTLY what we want.

The more people in leadership are contemptuous of our 'stealth' platforms, like how YOU are, the better we like it.

I do not say that in sarcasm. My first assignment was the F-111 (Cold War) then F-16 (Desert Storm). I want US to be underestimated at all time, even better if contempt is in the mix.
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No one is questioning your stealth platform, that's a strawman.

The questions are how effective have the weapons packages turned out to be? That's a mixed bag.
 
Pak-Warrior said:
Moving such plants which were consistently under watch of various actors, especially US satellites isn't possible without detection. They were keeping such close eyes that they even eliminated top scientists. They knew who comes and goes from these facilities. Remember Israel did a suprise attack, and it was checking movements for a long long time. They were gathering intelligence for over a decade. Moving after Israeli attack isn't possible as IDF was constantly flying and hitting targets in and around. I believe (although I didn't wanted this to happen) that Iran's nuclear capability is largely gone. That was decades of work. We all want to believe that perhaps Iran still have nuclear capabilities but reality looks really different.

Trying to recover this will invite another strikes. Iran better should focus on Hypersonic missiles, air defense first also build an airforce. Once these conventional capabilities are strong enough to safeguard its nuclear projects, then only Iran should restart work on nuclear program. For next 10 years focus should on only getting cutting edge conventional capabilities.
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You are right in the sense that those trucks moving out will be tracked. But with proper decoys and movements they should be able to disperse it out.

The fact that we are not hearing any reports of those trucks being targeted seems that the plan is still safe for now. As for the targeted nuclear scientist, I boil it down to non-compliance to their SOPs. They should have been underground in a bunker or should have disengage from use of electronic equipments. But they are humans after all.

Anyways Iran will learn from this and grow stronger. They can do both at the same time too.
 
gambit said:
Good...That is EXACTLY what we want.

The more people in leadership are contemptuous of our 'stealth' platforms, like how YOU are, the better we like it.
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Don't put words in my mouth and stop being a martyr from self-inflicted wounds.
gambit said:
I do not say that in sarcasm. My first assignment was the F-111 (Cold War) then F-16 (Desert Storm). I want US to be underestimated at all time, even better if contempt is in the mix.
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Using B2 and F-22 on a country with non-existent air force and AD, the outcome is extremely predictable

America wagging its tail for Israel is also extremely predictable

Like I said -- no one is shocked, the outcome was extremely predictable from day 1.

Only IRGC fanboys and American civilians who both overestimated Iran due to guzzling propaganda are shocked.
 
Folks, I'm going to use another bad and very graphic analogy here. For those still in denial of the potential damage at Fordow, look at it this way:

If I shoot you in the stomach with a .357 Magnum using hollow point bullets, there will be no exit wound. Only a small entry wound.

All of the damage will be inside.

That's how it works.
 
That_Guy said:
Oh come on.

This didn't happen in either Iraq or Afghanistan, and both of these countries were directly controlled by the US military.

What makes you think they'll demand this from Iran, a nation they have no control over?
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Entire squads raped in Iraq unimpeded. Look it up.
 
Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
thats a rabbit hole...

The truth is: the faster—and the more—thievery, espionage, and sabotage you commit, the faster you climb the ladder.

Does'nt that happen in real life jobs?!
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If done quietly, then yes. But openly and boastfully like Iran did then no.
 
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