Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

Looky here...

First, it was the Taliban who 'defeated' US but no military converted to the Taliban's model. Now, it is the Hooters who 'defeated' US. Am willing to wait again...

Taliban did defeat the US, the whole globe saw the US fleeing Kabul. It was similar to visual from 50 years ago when North Vietnam defeated the US and we saw identical visuals from Saigon of the US and its clients running away. I would argue Taliban copied the Viet Cong tactics. But we are going off topic.

 

[Ali_Baba]

People are already reacting negatively on Trump's policies

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Perfect analogy. The internet is an interesting place for sure!

 

[hussain0216]

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I'm not sure the U.S. will fully join the fight unless it's directly attacked. But if Israel continues to be targeted, I believe the next step will be strikes on national infrastructure that would be extremely painful for Iran.

U.S doesn't even want to join the fight, it's not in its interests

Israels behaviour and actions have destroyed international rule based order which the U.S and west built up in the west favour and interests

With that gone, the world is turning multi polar and with Israel and American behaviour being so unhinged other countries will plan and respond



You are seeing the literal end of the American era

The U.S is still the world superpower but it's moral authority is dead now



The U.S didn't want to get involved
Hell most Americans didn't want to get involved both on the left and right but Israeli control of toxic and evil

 

[Baadil]

Honestly - that map could be incorrect and they could well have come in the other direction entirely. We wont know ever. Far too much BS to know anything.

For those saying US used Indian airspace, how would that work? They would use Indian airspace but not Pakistani airspace? So they would fly across South India then head North, exiting over West Iran?

 

[KingQamaR]

Look at it this way...

Let us say there are 10 attackers and 10 defenders.

Now let us say there are five targets:

- Hospital
- Farm field
- Army HQ
- Shopping mall
- Fuel depot

We can assign 2 defenders to each target, but why?

The hospital is clearly a critical target simply for humanitarian reasons. The fuel depot is also a critical target for being a direct contributor to the war effort.

But the Army HQ can be classified as 'collateral damage' because it is essentially an administrative building. In a war, all plans are dispersed, anyway. The building's destruction will not hamper the war one bit.

So out of five targets, we have to defend only two with 10 interceptors, and increased the odds of survival for each.

This is how Iron Dome works. Neither the interception calculators nor the interceptors themselves are perfect, as nothing can be, but the system have more than adequately demonstrated its efficacy to the point that it is desirable throughout the world.

Do not forget that Israelis have American, UK, France, Jordan and most likely also Saudis trying to shot these missiles down AND then the air defence of Israel which is like 3 stages and yet Iranian missiles went through. It's crazy. You’re a terrible liar on Israel IRON DOMe strength. Israeli are lucky they have a lot of help.

 

[Watandar]

For those saying US used Indian airspace, how would that work? They would use Indian airspace but not Pakistani airspace? So they would fly across South India then head North, exiting over West Iran?

Please remain on topic. Too much pollution from random Twitter theories.

 

[gambit]

Taliban did defeat the US, the whole globe saw the US fleeing Kabul. It was similar to visual from 50 years ago when North Vietnam defeated the US and we saw identical visuals from Saigon of the US and its clients running away. I would argue Taliban copied the Viet Cong tactics. But we are going off topic.

Let US know when any military convert to the Taliban model. We can wait.

 

[Baadil]

First, it was the Taliban who 'defeated' US but no military converted to the Taliban's model.

Because there was no military solution in Afghanistan, which is what the US and NATO concluded after Pakistan had been stating it for years before the Taliban took over again.

Let's not go off-topic.

 

[adir-L]

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U.S doesn't even want to join the fight, it's not in its interests

Israels behaviour and actions have destroyed international rule based order which the U.S and west built up in the west favour and interests

With that gone, the world is turning multi polar and with Israel and American behaviour being so unhinged other countries will plan and respond



You are seeing the literal end of the American era

The U.S is still the world superpower but it's moral authority is dead now



The U.S didn't want to get involved
Hell most Americans didn't want to get involved both on the left and right but Israeli control of toxic and evil

The internal "moral high ground" was already lost the moment Iran chose to surround Israel with a network of terror proxies — from Hezbollah in the north, to militias in Syria, Iraq, and Yemen, and of course Hamas in Gaza.

Framing Israel or the U.S. as the only destabilizing actors ignores the reality: Iran has systematically worked for years to ignite regional conflict. The idea that restraint is expected only from democracies while authoritarian regimes operate with impunity is what truly undermines any global moral authority.

And let’s be clear — the shift to a multipolar world doesn’t mean a more just or moral world. It may simply mean that more bad actors now feel empowered.

 

[Watandar]

Let US know when any military convert to the Taliban model. We can wait.

Sure, lets wait for next US invasion and occupation of a country then. You will see same Viet Cong/Taliban model emerge.

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[Liquidator]

Fine. Then leave our 'master' alone.

Nah..we prefer this:

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Enjoy.

 

[FuturePAF]

People are already reacting negatively on Trump's policies

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Trump destabilized the world by removing even the fig leaf of diplomacy. Hegseth in his briefing this morning said that the negotiations were a deception.

The alignment of the real parties is clear. The monarchists and the Zionists aligned to overthrow the regime, challenging Israeli regional hegemony.

Europe will probably be a battlefield where both factions carry out assassination campaigns.

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[koolio]

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[Hayabusa]

Good...That is EXACTLY what we want.

The more people in leadership are contemptuous of our 'stealth' platforms, like how YOU are, the better we like it.

I do not say that in sarcasm. My first assignment was the F-111 (Cold War) then F-16 (Desert Storm). I want US to be underestimated at all time, even better if contempt is in the mix.

Nobody here is underestimating the capabilities of the U.S. military. In fact, most members are criticizing their own country's military planning in strategic, operational and tactical level. Stop twisting people's words and taking them out of context.

 

[fallschirmjager786]

Extremely interesting discussion on x. Some Kuwaiti guy with ties to the royal family is giving a lot of interesting information:

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