Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

These zionist jew bloodsuckers kill only defenceless Muslims while barking against Iran for decades
First of all you need to control your emotions - words like these shows weakness, not strength.

Next, read your history. The war was always between Iran and US. (Read what you people did to US Embassy in 1979)

Israel or Palestine was just a scapegoat used by Khamenei to somehow gain support of wider Muslim world for Iran.

Khamenei regime always knew, US will not forgive or forget 1979 and their time will eventually come.
 
I think you are naive. In case of war, the Americans bomb everything, hospitals, bridges, churches, industrial facilities, railways, airports, government buildings, civilian facilities, everything that is valuable.
Like Israel in Gaza, Lebanon.
If they attack they will use devastating power on Iran, something we haven't seen before, including mini nukes to force Iran to surrender.
 
First of all you need to control your emotions - words like these shows weakness, not strength.

Next, read your history. The war was always between Iran and US. (Read what you people did to US Embassy in 1979)

Israel or Palestine was just a scapegoat used by Khamenei to somehow gain support of wider Muslim world for Iran.

Khamenei regime always knew, US will not forgive or forget 1979 and their time will eventually come.
Mofo 2 million in Gaza are displayed

92% of houses are destroyed

Thousands of women and children are brutally killed

What does it have to Iran's influence?
 
Iran does not have any DPRK or Chinese Missile in its arsenal. Only DPRK connection was Shahab-1/2 engines that came from DPRK's Hawasong-7 in late 1980s. Iran retired even its own Shahab-3s 1.5 decades ago in favor of Emad.

Todays Arsenal is following:

K-4 Exoatmospheric MaRV-IRBM (Radial CAS) 3200 KM Max, probable nuke carrier
Sejjil-II MRBM/IRBM (possible MaRV) 2500 KM
Ghadr-F Exoatmospheric+Endoatmospheric MaRV-MRBM 2000 KM
Fattah I/II Hypersonic MarRV-MRBM 1500 KM
Kheybar Shikan Skip-Glide MaRV-MRBM 1500 KM

There are other less produced missiles but these ones are the main weapons of the IRGC strike force as these ones rained down on Israel.

Then we have suspected triple staged Ghaem SLV as a suspected TEL-ICBM of IRGC, tested 4-5 times already.

Good arsenal for regional bullies but not much against US.
Emad/Rezvan/Etemad are a very large component, Haj Qasem too

your accuracy estimates are rather generous I think but you already know that topic well
 
Emad/Rezvan/Etemad are a very large component, Haj Qasem too

Emad is a Shahab-3 descendant with a Endoatmospheric MaRV. A force multiplier.

Rezvan is more of a Houthi given weapon, a fast PBV kinda like Khorramshahr, only recently inducted by IRGC. Haj Qassem is seen in bulk for the first time in underground bases.
 
If they attack they will use devastating power on Iran, something we haven't seen before, including mini nukes to force Iran to surrender.
Brother, The U.S. is not capable (on its own) of destroying Iran, even though Iran is relatively weak militarily(20 to 25% of Russian). Just look at the poor results of the U.S. in Yemen, Afghanistan, Ucrania etc. The only alternative would be a nuclear attack, but if that happens,first: iran would not surrender because there is already a nuclear attack protocol in Iran (and there is a real possibility that Iran itself already has nuclear weapons)and second: it’s the end of the U.S. and the Zionist lobby as we know it, because there’s no public opinion support for such a move. On the contrary, since Iran supports Palestine, the pro-Palestine movement would interpret a nuclear attack as an attack on Palestine itself, completely isolating the Zionist Jewish elite worldwide for next centuries. Then, it would only be a matter of time (for a global arms race) before some country, decades later, retaliates with a nuclear strike on the U.S and Israel—and that would be the end of the world as we know it.

For these reasons, I don’t believe the puppet Trump would do this. Trump said he would attack Iran at 52 locations if they retaliated for Soleimani’s death. Iran bombed a U.S. base, and Trump did nothing—just spread fake news that no one died, only to later claim some soldiers had "brain concussions".

What Trump will do is the same as what Israel has been doing—the only feasible option: Military strikes are coordinated with a war media marketing campaign, targeting symbolic sites and figures. That’s why Israel took down the helicopter carrying Iran’s president—to provoke Iran into an all-out war and create an international coalition of 80-90 countries against Iran. Only then could Iran be destroyed.

Trump will likely try to hit some nuclear plants (though the global issue of radioactive fallout will arise) and, more probably, attempt to assassinate a high-profile figure in Iran—maybe Ayatollah Khamenei (90 years old)—hoping for an Iranian reaction to justify forming the coalition. But Iran won’t react the way they want, so the attack will be sold in the media as "weakening Iran," "Iran is finished," "99% of targets hit, 99% of Iran’s counterattack missiles intercepted," etc.—classic propaganda, following an "Abraham Agreement" with Saudi Arabia, and some other countries that are already dominated by the US and this will be sold in the media as a "victory" for Israel and a "defeat" for Iran and Palestine.

But in practice nothing would change, in the world we currently live in, you create reality in the person's head, if the person believes it, then for them that is "true", hence, for example, the fake "40 beheaded babies".
 
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Honestly it sounds like you spend to much time at the masjed and not in reality, sorry no offense, it's just not realistic

USA destroyed Iraq, Afghan, Vietnam, Serbia. Destroying is without questioning easy for USA, occupation no one has the time forever to do it, and Taliban & Viet Cong only came back bc USA decided to leave

No, my friend, I didn’t spend much time in a mosque. I’m just one of billions of humans who no longer accept Anglo-American Zionist narratives—because the '80s and '90s ended long ago, and Rambo movies don’t work anymore. Blowing up innocents, killing women and children, and destroying buildings isn’t winning a war. If that were the case, then Germany would have won the World Wars. War is won when political objectives are achieved—that’s why the U.S. lost in Vietnam and Afghanistan, and why the USSR also lost in Afghanistan.

What you call 'USA decided to leave' is how American propaganda sells it to the local their public to maintain the myth of military invincibility. Notice how the U.S. left Afghanistan/Vietnam but remains in Saudi Arabia. Why? Because there’s no military resistance there... In practice, it’s clear that the U.S. isn’t quite a 'paper tiger,' but it hasn’t achieved half the military successes it claims—and it has never faced even a moderately capable adversary.
 
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Never been tested against a minimally strong and well-equipped enemy?

Iraqi Army was the largest and best equipped in the Pan-Islamic world in 1990:

ArmyIraqi Army
TroopsTotal = 640000

Regular Troops = 400000
Republican Guards = 240000
MBTTotal = 5500+

Soviet T-72 = 1000
Soviet T-62 = 1500
Chinese Type 59 = 1500
Soviet T-54/55/M-77 = 1500
British Chieftain MK variants = 30
APC / IFVTotal = 7500

IFV = 1500 (Soviet BMP-1/-2)

APC = 6000 (Soviet BTR-50/-60/-152; Polish OT-62/-64; Soviet MT-LB; Chinese Type 63; American M-113A1/A2; French Panhard M-3; Brazilian EE-11 Urutu)
Artillery PiecesTotal = 3700+

Towed = 3000
Self-propelled = 500
MLRS =200
Air DefenseAA guns = 4000 (From 23 mm to 130 mm)

SAM systems* = 600+ (Soviet SA-2 = 60; Soviet SA-3 = 140; Soviet SA-6/-7/-8/-9/-14 = 300+; French Roland = 100)
Ballistic MissilesTotal = 86 TEL

FROG-7 class TEL = 50
Scud-B class TEL = 36
HelicoptersTotal = 518

Attack type = 159 (German Bo-105 = 56; Soviet Mi-24= 40; French SA-316 = 30; French SA-321 = 13; French SA-342 = 20)

Transport type = 364 (Soviet Mi-6 = 15; American Bell 214 ST = 40; Soviet Mi-8/-17 = 140; Italian Agusta AS-61 = 5; French SA-330 = 20; Soviet Mi-4 = 20; Italian Agusta A-109 = 3; American Bell AB-212 = 5; American Hughes 300C = 30; American Hughes 500D = 30; American Hughes 530F = 26; French SA-342 = 30)
*Iraqi Army had over 6000 SA-7 type.

Iraqi Army had created an integrated air defense system involving hundreds of AAA guns, hundreds of advanced SAM systems, and hundreds of radar systems. Iraqi Army also had de-centralized air defense measures. The most sensitive Iraqi military installations had better defenses than any in Eastern Europe even during the height of the Cold War. In comparison to Iraqi A2/AD defenses in 1990, other Islamic countries had a much smaller inventory of SAM systems let alone an integrated air defense system in place.

The US-led coalition suffered no losses in clashes with Iraqi Air Force but lost dozens of aircraft to Iraqi A2/AD defenses in war in 1991 (Operation Desert Storm).

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Yugoslav A2/AD arrangements were also decent involving thousands of AAA guns, hundreds of SAM systems, and hundreds of radar systems. Yugoslav Army had created some of the earliest examples of IMAD but dispersed SAM in the forested hills, carefully held their fire so as not to give away their frequencies and locations, and made extensive use of decoys to absorb airstrikes of the US-led coalition in war in 1999 (Operation Allied Force).

Yugoslav Military is Formidable Foe
Yugoslavia: Serbia's Air Defenses Pose Challenge To NATO
NATO faces a tough, tight Yugoslav Army

However, the US-led coalition lost only 3 aircraft to Yugoslavian A2/AD defenses in Operation Allied Force. Reason? B-2A had changed the calculus entirely.

During Allied Force, the air war over Serbia, six B-2s conducted 45 sorties out of 9,211 Air Force fighter and bomber sorties in the entire war—less than a half of one percent—but they struck 33 percent of the targets in the first eight weeks of combat.

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The US under Biden administration wasn't doing anything significant in Yemen.

New US campaign against Yemen’s Houthis far more intense than under Biden


Indian authors have a bad habit of downplaying capabilities of other countries. How good were Indian defenses in 1990? The outcome of Operation Desert Storm shocked Soviet and Chinese analysts of the time. Indians also underestimated PAF and generally claimed that their Su-30 MKI were better than F-16 but PAF showed otherwise in Operation Swift Retort in 2019. Indians are deluded.
Couple of main differences Iraq was flat terrain on disposal fro plowing while Iran can place endless AD "ambushes" behind hills and mountains.
Second one size of the country and allocation of targets where attacker is in handicap as he can basically conduct "safe" missions only from on island in near ocean.
Another one is that Iran can flat all airports from where anti AD mission would go per will with their balistic and drone arsenal.
 
The only way Iran can counter the west and bring this to a stalemate is by forming a military alliance with Russia or China. Usa the super power of the world protects Israel, EU, Nato, Quad and this is why they're untouchable. A counter Nato block needs to be formed to protect nations under threat from globalists Satan followers.
 
The only way Iran can counter the west and bring this to a stalemate is by forming a military alliance with Russia or China. Usa the super power of the world protects Israel, EU, Nato, Quad and this is why they're untouchable. A counter Nato block needs to be formed to protect nations under threat from globalists Satan followers.
might be but if want happen, both china and russia will calculate always with west on the expense of Iran and that is unchangeable reality for while.
Best what can Iran hope is some hardware to buy from them.
 
The stuff to attack Iran is landing in Qatar. Iran should destroy is before it destroys Iran.
 

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