Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Cash gk]

Israelis are demanding to bomb Washington. This is interesting.

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[pashtunkoum]

Hezbollah betrayed us. It's time to throw them under the bus.
Not only Iraqi resistance did nothing, but the Iraqi sky was like an 8-lane expressway for the Israeli Air Force to move back and forth from Israel to Iran. They exerted zero pressure on their government for this.
Hamas and Palestinians stayed away completely. This could've been an opportunity for a new intifada. We could've hit Israel's anti-riot and police forces to help them, but the Palestinians were unwilling to participate in the war, it seems. Hamas didn't even fire rockets during the war. I don't blame the Palestinians though, they've been through a lot in the last 2 years, but they missed an opportunity.

Only the Houthies of Yemen proved to be at least potentially useful, even though one could argue that they didn't do much besides firing a single missile (maybe two?) during the war, but still, they showed willingness to help us. That's more than what the other members of the so-called "Axis of Resistance" did.

Hezb is already suffering from low PR.

If they had joined all missiles would be launched at Lebanon. That would not be strategic at all. You can't drag other nations into wars like that.

 

[OldTwilight]

Hezbollah, HAMAS and Iraqis thought we would lose the war and saw no reason to join the «losing side»

I doubt IR can convince people to continue supporting these groups financially ... In fact, most Iranians are against spending even 1 $ on any foreign groups ...

 

[Tamerlane]

You are spreading so much rubbish in this thread about Pakistan being next. Stop posting that Bullshit everytime.

There are so many differences between Pakistan and Iran.

- Pakistan already got nukes
- Pakistan has a reliable lifeline in China
- Pakistan is not threatening to nuke Israel
- Pakistan isn‘t isolated internationally, on the contrary got good relations to many countries in the world.
- Pakistan is totally different gravy military-wise
- Pakistan only gets dangerous if it becomes unstable aka the military is weakened.
- Pakistan got a lifeline in China (again because that solely makes everything you say fantasy)

Stop that nonsense please

You just joined today and you’re already abusing an old member? Also, I notice that you pour scorn on any concept of Muslim unity. What exactly is your agenda?

Like all new members it must be assumed that you’re an Indian until proven otherwise.

 

[Master Chief]

Some of this advices should be implemented ASAP, it will make situation more manageable for Iran.

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Above ground assets are at risk because of the nature of modern warfare with its satellites, BMs, BVR missiles and drones. Vulnerable nations should all consider adapting and shifting military production and assets into safer ecosystems.

Imagine having Tolkien's Erebor for this purpose.

 

[Persian Gulf]

How long does it take to build one of Irans latest ( IR-6 ) centrifuges ? 20-30k were in those locations that were bombed. How much of an effort is it to build them new for just 1 unit? I am curious. Has anyone followed this closely enough to know?

The IR-6 Centrifuge Needs Further Development | ISIS Reports | Institute For Science And International Security

isis-online.org

Iran's Centrifuges: Models and Status | Iran Watch

In recent years, Iran has developed and deployed centrifuge models that can enrich greater amounts of uranium with fewer machines relative to its original IR-1 design. This table sets out the number of installed and operational centrifuges at Iran's enrichment sites, as well as the capacity and...

www.iranwatch.org

ie how long will it take for Iran to recover from this ?

@Persian Gulf ?

we don't know what was lost

but centrifuge production facilities were lost too so it will not be easy to produce them. IR-6 centrifuges are fairly advanced.

 

[Olympus81]

Israelis are demanding to bomb Washington. This is interesting.

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There are similarities between the Zios and Hindutvas.

 

[Persian Gulf]

They just don't want to risk what they have for "Persians" or Iran.
@Persian Gulf and I talked about this thoroughly a few days before the war. Little did we know that I would be proven right just a few days later.

We have spent nearly 50 billion dollars in the region in a span of 15 years, enough for over 400 modern gen 4+ jet fighters. Imagine what 400 gen. 4 jet fighters would've done for us in this war, and what all these groups combined did for us.

well the Houthis did what they could and proved they are reliable allies. every country condemned our attack on Qatar except for the Houthis

the others are a disgrace and should be abandoned. I hope we didn't already transfer the funds to reconstruct Lebanon

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Are they Tajiks or Pashto in majority, those Afghans in Iran...i found the number of millions of them in Iran???

I don't know exactly but I'm almost sure tajiks and hazaras. Iran is the land of free, you can do whatever you want, black/grey economy, not pay tax, sneak into the country, go back, come back etc.

 

[Cash gk]

You are spreading so much rubbish in this thread about Pakistan being next. Stop posting that Bullshit everytime.

There are so many differences between Pakistan and Iran.

- Pakistan already got nukes
- Pakistan has a reliable lifeline in China
- Pakistan is not threatening to nuke Israel
- Pakistan isn‘t isolated internationally, on the contrary got good relations to many countries in the world.
- Pakistan is totally different gravy military-wise
- Pakistan only gets dangerous if it becomes unstable aka the military is weakened.
- Pakistan got a lifeline in China (again because that solely makes everything you say fantasy)

Stop that nonsense please

Yes I agree. There’s a very difference between Pakistan and Iran their army fought like lions and defended their leaders but our general surrendered their prime minister and putted him in prison

 

[mangekyo]

I doubt IR can convince people to continue supporting these groups financially ... In fact, most Iranians are against spending even 1 $ on any foreign groups ...

Especially now after they did nothing. People are going to ask what all that money was for

 

[Vapnope]

The lesson here is that global south should unite for the benefit of their people and respective countries. We have seen how the absence of a strong bloc helps the established bloc of EU or NATO for that purpose.

I really liked what our DGISPR said that we can all grow together instead of trying to hurt each other.

 

[Mutakalim]

Tactical Israeli victory, as they managed to do some damage to Iran's over land nuclear facilities, and kill some key figures.

IMHO, calling it a tactical victory for Israel would be a stretch. I accept that they haven't achieved all their objectives and they failed at strategic level (failed regime change operation) but we can not brush aside the beating endured by Iranians. Equipment is replaceable but lost deterrence and reputation is non replaceable. At this point in time, Israel is not deterred by Iranian BMs. As soon as Israel restock its interceptors, it will start all over again.

 

[Master Chief]

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Strickland is a disgusting piece of trash.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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reminder that Marandi is not a reliable person