Khansaheeb
Elite Member
Why are you quoting the colonial news media ? The truth from them is zero.Israeli media reports how Trump blasted Nutunyahoo during a recent phone call with him:
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Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Khansaheeb
Elite Member
The ceasefire agreement should have included Gaza and Westbank and complete Jew withdrawal
Master Chief
Trusted Member
It is being repeated by BBC.
the vicious kind
Registered Member
Posted this in another thread aswell.
First and foremost, Iran should stop relying on a mix of old Soviet-era systems, reverse-engineered Western hardware, and newer domestic platforms that lacked seamless integration and centralized command and control.
This patchwork setup created blind spots and communication lags, especially under the pressure of a coordinated, multi-domain assault by IAF.
We all so the result. Iran lost the air battle space fairly quickly. I dont believe Mossad had enough personnel to takeout numerous batteries of Sayeed, bavar or khordad. There wasnt a cohesive air space deniel strategy to begin with. No unified airspace management doctrine or real-time data-sharing. It was also so fragmented that individual systems operated in silos, unable to support or back each other up.
The Iranian AD network's downfall wasn’t due to a lack of hardware ,it was the absence of integration, strategy, and most importantly a robust AWACS network.
First and foremost, Iran should stop relying on a mix of old Soviet-era systems, reverse-engineered Western hardware, and newer domestic platforms that lacked seamless integration and centralized command and control.
This patchwork setup created blind spots and communication lags, especially under the pressure of a coordinated, multi-domain assault by IAF.
We all so the result. Iran lost the air battle space fairly quickly. I dont believe Mossad had enough personnel to takeout numerous batteries of Sayeed, bavar or khordad. There wasnt a cohesive air space deniel strategy to begin with. No unified airspace management doctrine or real-time data-sharing. It was also so fragmented that individual systems operated in silos, unable to support or back each other up.
The Iranian AD network's downfall wasn’t due to a lack of hardware ,it was the absence of integration, strategy, and most importantly a robust AWACS network.
Master Chief
Trusted Member
BBC website live feed:
"US media are reporting that an initial assessment produced by the Defense Intelligence Agency says US strikes on Iran only set back its nuclear programme by a few months.
In a post on social media, the White House press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, says: "This alleged 'assessment' is flat-out wrong and was classified as 'top secret' but was still leaked to CNN by an anonymous, low-level loser in the intelligence community.
"The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump, and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly executed mission to obliterate Iran’s nuclear program.
"Everyone knows what happens when you drop fourteen 30,000 pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration."
The BBC's US partner, CBS News, reports that a source familiar with the assessment has confirmed to them that a preliminary assessment indicates the strikes set back the programme by months, and did not obliterate the facilities.
The source says the assessment indicates strikes on the Fordo facility caved in the entrances but that the enrichment infrastructure buried further underground remains largely intact.
They also appear to contradict Leavitt's claim about the quality of the assessment, saying such preliminary assessments tend to hold up."
"US media are reporting that an initial assessment produced by the Defense Intelligence Agency says US strikes on Iran only set back its nuclear programme by a few months.
In a post on social media, the White House press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, says: "This alleged 'assessment' is flat-out wrong and was classified as 'top secret' but was still leaked to CNN by an anonymous, low-level loser in the intelligence community.
"The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump, and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly executed mission to obliterate Iran’s nuclear program.
"Everyone knows what happens when you drop fourteen 30,000 pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration."
The BBC's US partner, CBS News, reports that a source familiar with the assessment has confirmed to them that a preliminary assessment indicates the strikes set back the programme by months, and did not obliterate the facilities.
The source says the assessment indicates strikes on the Fordo facility caved in the entrances but that the enrichment infrastructure buried further underground remains largely intact.
They also appear to contradict Leavitt's claim about the quality of the assessment, saying such preliminary assessments tend to hold up."
Khansaheeb
Elite Member
Iran's size and landscape allows minimal impact but for the small Zionist entity it is a devastating blow, that's why they pleaded for a ceasefire. Iran should rearm for the next round with even bigger and more devastating arsenal. If Turkey or Pakistan could take over pummeling Israel that would be better.
PakAl
Elite Member
Zionist are well professional, during the first Iranian attack on Israel, Israel used satellites, agents on the ground etc to identify exactly where all the ballistic missiles launchers, AD systems are, then during this surprise attack they targeted and continued to destroy them for 12 days. The result Iran ended up from firing 80 missiles a day to 8, plus 100s of launchers and ADs destroyed. It may have been that Iran would have fired 500 missiles a day but for 18 hours Israel continued to attack missle sites, this reduced Iranian offensive power.
vmro
Registered Member
I was really hoping that few days more and Iran could insisted on regime change in Israel, as starting point for any negotiation...
This result is historical for Iran if manage to fix internal leaking channels and rats...
They were main weapon of idf, what is not excuse for Iranian secret services, and they simply must do clean-house on itself at any cost...those millions afghanis, if it`s true, are also potential danger for Iran...Afghanis in Iran are not good combination, from the ending era of Safavids and Nader Shah that is fact...
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
I'm going to inquire about a group discount on therapy. Or perhaps, bring a friend, receive 10% off.
lightning f57
Trusted Member
Forsvaret
Trusted Member
It’s a news report, not "truth" report.
El Sidd
Elite Member
Iran never had the capacity to build any bomb and US dropped enough payload to render the facility unusable.
This is just lobbied narrative that US fake bombed the facility to allow for further violations from the entity.
Nobel nominee Trump and sole superpower status of USA are both at the mercy of 2 rogue regimes in India and the entity.
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
Personally, I think they're stupid. To knowingly go to a known war zone then cry when they can't get out? Insanity.
Want to see the rockets red glare? 4th of July is not that far away.
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
Getting cut off from the teat like Volodymyr did can have that effect on you.Israeli media reports how Trump blasted Nutunyahoo during a recent phone call with him
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