Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mangekyo]

Why isn’t Putin attacking Ukraine now that they’re all low on interceptors? What secret deals have been made?

 

[Arash]

No place in Iran uses Indian apps or software. I have never seen an Indian app in all my life in Iran. I have never seen an Indian developer in Iran in all my life. Stop posting unverified stuff please.

Hhhhmmmmmm very doubtful.

 

[Arash]

Better rename it rising pussycat...

 

[That_Guy]

Probably not true.

Azerbaijan simply doesn't have the army size to invade any part of Iran.

It may have an air force, but its not big enough to make much of a difference. Unless Pakistan magically transfered all 40 JF-17s (and even then), Azerbaijan is staying put in its own borders.

Its probably hyper-nationalists wanting Aliyev to take advantage of the situation, and fantasizing, nothing more.

 

[StrategicBear]

18 months seems like a deception.
Israel will restock and attack much, much sooner.
The US+Canada have the industrial capacity and resources of an entire continent.

Which makes it suck even more that Muslim Moors, Ottomans and Chinese didn't get to colonize while treating better the natives and Joint Rule American continent with the Natives in the past to prevent White people from dominating now.... Alternate History should be better for Muslim Rule......

 

[OldTwilight]

Without replenishing interceptor stock, they will not dare attack. That will take about 18 months.

I'm waiting for another inside attack...

 

[mangekyo]

Here’s why I don’t think we’re ever going to build a nuke unless there’s a coup.

Khamenei is 86. At that age, people usually get really set in their ways. He’s way past the point of changing his mind. Who’s going to tell him, “Hey, your fatwa was wrong, you misread Islam, and you just put the entire country at risk”? No one.

He basically has two options:

Admit he was wrong, try to build the bomb anyway, and risk going down in history as the marja who banned nukes but panicked after getting attacked, tried to make one, and maybe even failed, got defeated by the enemy and died anyway.

Or stick to his fatwa and go down as the marja who could have built the bomb and defeated the enemy but refused because it was haram, so he fought “honorably,” let the country take the hit, and died with his principles intact, like an Imam Hussein figure who chose faith over victory.

It’s pretty obvious which path he’s going to pick.

 

[StrategicBear]

Imminent now

Khoramshar-4 needs to be ready now.

In future, I suspect more Next-Gen Hypersonics to be developed and deployed by Iran so that it would take only 2 minutes to cover a distance of 1800 kms, and that the entire firing time from erecting the TEL after exiting from a mountain cavern/tunnel to launching it would take only less than a minute.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

The US military did not use bunker-buster bombs on one of Iran’s largest nuclear sites last weekend because the site is so deep that the bombs likely would not have been effective, the US’ top general told senators during a briefing on Thursday.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Here’s why I don’t think we’re ever going to build a nuke unless there’s a coup.

Khamenei is 86. At that age, people usually get really set in their ways. He’s way past the point of changing his mind. Who’s going to tell him, “Hey, your fatwa was wrong, you misread Islam, and you just put the entire country at risk”? No one.

He basically has two options:

Admit he was wrong, try to build the bomb anyway, and risk going down in history as the marja who banned nukes but panicked after getting attacked, tried to make one, and maybe even failed, got defeated by the enemy and died anyway.

Or stick to his fatwa and go down as the marja who could have built the bomb and defeated the enemy but refused because it was haram, so he fought “honorably,” let the country take the hit, and died with his principles intact, like an Imam Hussein figure who chose faith over victory.

It’s pretty obvious which path he’s going to pick.

He is so wise. He doesn't want his nation to become another North Korea, and eat Marine algae. On the other hand we have all kinds of missiles and nuclear capabilities for 30+ years, started with AMAD projec ☢

You have to look at things from all angles, not just from a one-dimensional perspective

 

[Garcia Sea]

The people of Iran, unaware of the sentiment portrayed in Western media, were convinced that there would be no attack on Iran.
In reality, it was clear that such an event was imminent.
And now, I must inform you that the momentum for a renewed attack is rapidly increasing. The perception that Iran is not a significant threat is spreading quickly, and an atmosphere supportive of a much larger-scale attack is forming. Both China and Russia are showing clear signs of abandoning Iran to its fate. Within China, discussions mocking Iran's foolishness and weakness are widespread, and it is explicitly argued that the early ceasefire was a self-destructive act.
Azerbaijan is extremely eager to invade Iran.
Iran is rapidly becoming isolated, and the final phase is approaching.

 

[StrategicBear]

The people of Iran, unaware of the sentiment portrayed in Western media, were convinced that there would be no attack on Iran.
In reality, it was clear that such an event was imminent.
And now, I must inform you that the momentum for a renewed attack is rapidly increasing. The perception that Iran is not a significant threat is spreading quickly, and an atmosphere supportive of a much larger-scale attack is forming. Both China and Russia are showing clear signs of abandoning Iran to its fate. Within China, discussions mocking Iran's foolishness and weakness are widespread, and it is explicitly argued that the early ceasefire was a self-destructive act.
Azerbaijan is extremely eager to invade Iran.
Iran is rapidly becoming isolated, and the final phase is approaching.

At this point this all seems like some kind of Bad Joke or Bad Dream... it's that level of surreal blunder...

I mean, lots of fictional countries and fictional leaders in Anime, novels and movies seem to be more competent than Iranian leaders....

 

[PakAl]

You destroyed Syria by supporting a NATO-instigated civil war that had no purpose but to install an Israel-friendly regime and we are already seeing this as we speak today. Unfortunately, the Syrians do not see this now because of their hatred for the previous Syrian regime who was admittedly unpopular. They had tried the Assads and they wanted a fresh start. Something that gives them hope about the future, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they are right. People get played all the time, unfortunately. It's all to be seen and time will tell.

Syrian airspace was in no way used to attack or kill our citizens, but good to see that you are happy about Iranian civilians getting killed. You've been exposed. But I do agree that what goes around, comes around. And Turkey may very soon taste this firsthand. Again, time will tell.

No, we have brought this upon ourselves by supporting the Palestinian cause, unlike you who pretend to support the Palestinian cause while behind the scenes you facilitate the Israeli plans for the new Middle East.

It's untrue that Bashar Al Assad and his government was unpopular in Syria, this was Nato, MB and wahabi propaganda. The people who fought against him were mostly wahabis and ikhwanis, with one root in Qatar Turkey Israel and the other Saudia Usa. This is a fact which even Muslims will twist around. Keep in mind Gaddafi was also unpopular according to them and so is current Iranian regime. All lies manufactured.

Turkey had decent relations with Bashar Al Assad but I think he wasn't acceptable to Arab GCC Israel and USA, plus since he was close to Iran and Russia so for Turkey this wasn't good enough. Today Turkey controls North Syria through SNA, and Saudia controls Central Syria through HTS Salafis, Israel wants South Syria. All sides are willing to recognise daddy Israel, trade with Usa EU etc, plus the state is under control of Turkey and Saudia, in another words it will be friendly towards Israel Usa and EU.

 

[PakAl]

for that Majlis will consider withdrawing from NPT for 2 months then wait 3 months for exit to be effective

If this was any effective state, they will withdraw ASAP, disallow IAEA, declare that enemies will attack again, spread fear, complain to UN that our existence is under threat then bang test nukes and be ready for armageddon war or peace. In fact the is exactly what Iran is facing, existence threat from 2 Nuclear powers Israel and USA.

 

[mangekyo]

He is so wise. He doesn't want his nation to become another North Korea, and eat Marine algae. On the other hand we have all kinds of missiles and nuclear capabilities for 30+ years, started with AMAD projec ☢

You have to look at things from all angles, not just from a one-dimensional perspective

You’re actually the one looking at it from a one-dimensional angle.

You say the fatwa is “wise” because it saves us from becoming North Korea, but you’re ignoring that the whole point of the fatwa and limiting the program was supposed to get us sanctions relief, international acceptance, and deter from being attacked. Has that worked? No. We’re still sanctioned to death and Israel attacked us.

The nuclear program was supposed to be a bargaining chip, but it’s failed miserably at that too. They just keep pressuring us no matter how much we claim it’s peaceful.

If anything, you could argue the opposite strategy would work better: actually building nukes and using them as a real bargaining chip. As in: “Lift sanctions or we’ll build more, or share the designs with your enemies, or put them on ICBMs.”

So if you want to talk about “all angles,” you can’t just assume the fatwa = wisdom. It might actually be the single biggest reason we’re boxed in with no leverage.