Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[StrategicBear]

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All of those countries listed are countries without a Rothschild Central Bank...

 

[StrategicBear]

1. Iran had 13,000 kg of 3.5% uranium and a about 200-300 kilograms of 20% enriched uranium before 2013.
2. The US had no weapon to destroy Iran's underground nuclear facilities. In 2015, the US intelligence community reached a conclusive consensus that the US bunker busters were not powerful enough to cause damage to our underground nuclear infrastructure.
3. Iran was making tremendous progress in nuclear industry, multi-stage missiles, OTH and bi-static radars. Iran's progress was halted after Rohani came to power.
4. Iran had not been infiltrated by pan-Turks like Pezeshkian and Ghazipour. The reformists had been sidelined after the Green movement.
5. They thought the Iranians were pro-IR. Aban 98 and Mahsa Amini protests made them think that Iranians would welcome regime change.
6. The economy was doing great back then. Another factor in public dissatisfaction.
7. Relatively speaking, Israel did not have F-35s back then. Iranian Air Force wasn't completely useless like it is now.
8. Israel didn't have David's sling and Arrow-3 ready in 2012. They probably felt less safe that they do now.
9. We had Syria and Hezbollah next to Israel.
10. They didn't know that the IR had no real red lines. They found out about this one after the assassination of Gen. Soleimani.
11. Oil prices were high back then. The US was afraid that war could make oil prices soar to $200/bbl and the US depended on the Middle Eastern energy.

I prefer if Iran acted on its red lines.

War is not desired but must fight if need be.

 

[Farhan23]

Middle Easterners always fought wars like this against Western forces!

Only China, Vietnam and other East Asians are serious and hardcore when fighting Western militaries......

I wanna counter this fallacy..

When has China fought any western? That was nearly 90 years ago in North Korea.

Besides there was recently the Afghan-US war, The Syrian-Assad-Russo wars.

Not to forget the so-called Middle easternes occupied more then half of Europe. The Arabs and Turks occupied Europe for centuries.

Spain, Romania, Portugal, South France, Switzerland, Austria, Bulgeria, Greece, Georgia, Armenia, Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, Moldova, Hungary, Malta, Sicily, Parts of Italy, Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia, Albania, Bosnia, Croatia etc etc.

No Chinese or Eastern forces have reached anywhere beyond East Asia

 

[OldTwilight]

why are we acting like this is news

we never insisted on our right to enrich uranium to 60% and we accepted limits to 5% in 2015, so why not now in 2025?

the limit was 3.5 % and guarantee that they provide 20 % enriched uranium for our research and medical reactor

 

[mangekyo]

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[Ali_Baba]

IRGC: the war will end when we decide it will end!

2 days later

Iran accepts ceasefire

Yes - they need to put a lid on the "trash talking" ..

 

[ShapurII]

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Dude doesn't know what "ceasefire" means.

 

[mangekyo]

IRGC: the war will end when we decide it will end!

IRGC: War will resume when the other side chooses.

@Persian Gulf

I fixed your post

Oh I forgot Araghchi: We will stop if Israel stops.

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[tsunset]

Look, I don’t know every detail about our air defenses, but back then Shahab-3 could hit Israel. Hezbollah claimed they had 150,000 rockets ready. Assad had this huge network of old AD systems, not the best, but enough to be a threat to Israeli planes. Plus, Israel didn’t even have F-35s yet. And let’s be honest, IRI really exaggerated its capabilities back then and was way more aggressive under Soleimani.

But the real problem is how IRI kept pulling back from its own red lines. Remember when Soleimani was killed? The whole world held its breath for weeks thinking it could start WW3. And what did we do? A scripted missile strike with advance warning. Then they hit Iranian soil and we gave them TP1. We basically taught them we’re all talk. We emboldened them by showing we’ll do anything to avoid actual war.

S-200 and HQ-2 + Hawk SAM will intercept Israeli F-15/16i?

Assad wouldn't even throw a rock at IDF jets

 

[Farhan23]

S-200

S-200 is not worth the time nor S-300 both are obsolote

 

[mangekyo]

S-200 and HQ-2 + Hawk SAM will intercept Israeli F-15/16i?

Assad wouldn't even throw a rock at IDF jets

Nevertheless, Israel didn’t feel untouchable back then and didn’t think IRI was this peace-loving

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

S-200 and HQ-2 + Hawk SAM will intercept Israeli F-15/16i?

Assad wouldn't even throw a rock at IDF jets

Forget about the Arabs nations, rather than defend themselves and their people against israeli/zionist genocide, they would rather worship the white european racist colonialists. They are a lost and lowly people.

 

[tsunset]

S-200 is not worth the time nor S-300 both are obsolote

S-200 managed to shoot down a F-16i (with a lot of luck though) and S-200 achieved massive kills in Ukraine, it has a very very long range but completely obsolete

Nevertheless, Israel didn’t feel untouchable back then and didn’t think IRI was this peace-loving

But Iran at the time was free to bomb, and not just compromise the airspace like now, but compromise it in a way that even A-10 jets, choppers and B-52+B-1 would achieve missions deep inside Iran without facing any threat, which is not the case right now as SHORAD is still operational

 

[Eşbah]

The Iranian security forces are crashing down on terrorists in NW Iran as we speak.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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this will escalate again before October