Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

Glad to see you have conducted full investigation and have determined the cause of the incident!/S

either it was incompetent handling of explosive materials or sabotage

which one you prefer?

 

[ShapurII]

either it was incompetent handling of explosive materials or sabotage

which one you prefer?

Dude, you are too intelligent for the likes of him. Just ignore him and move on.

A significant area of our largest port is burning down to dirt as we speak and the likes of him are going to frame it as shit happens to deflect responsibility from the establishment. Sabotage or incompetence, this is a huge failure for the system. Last year, it was about this time that the system proved its embarrassing incompetence when they asked Turkey to find our President's crashed helicopter and now this.

Pakistan is nearly going to war with India (a nuclear power with 1.3 billion people) over their fair share of the Sind River while the Islamic Republic has chosen to stay quiet and passive against a bunch of shoeless mountain terrorists like the Taliban over our fair share of the Hirmand River. But to people like him, that's genius and the Ayatollah is a brave guy that is going to defeat the US and save the world from Zionism like Batman.

 

[Kyussis]

either it was incompetent handling of explosive materials or sabotage

which one you prefer?

I prefer the investigators to determine the cause instead of rushing to conclusions.

 

[Kyussis]

Dude, you are too intelligent for the likes of him. Just ignore him and move on.

A significant area of our largest port is burning down to dirt as we speak and the likes of him are going to frame it as shit happens to deflect responsibility from the establishment. Sabotage or incompetence, this is a huge failure for the system. Last year, it was about this time that the system proved its embarrassing incompetence when they asked Turkey to find our President's crashed helicopter and now this.

Pakistan is nearly going to war with India (a nuclear power with 1.3 billion people) over their fair share of the Sind River while the Islamic Republic has chosen to stay quiet and passive against a bunch of shoeless mountain terrorists like the Taliban over our fair share of the Hirmand River. But to people like him, that's genius and the Ayatollah is a brave guy that is going to defeat the US and save the world from Zionism like Batman.

According to you, jumping to conclusions in the absence of information is the sign of "Intelligence"!

 

[ShapurII]

According to you, jumping to conclusions in the absence of information is the sign of "Intelligence"!

The problem with the IR is that there will always be an absence of information, or an abundance of misinformation.

One year has passed since our President's helicopter crashed. Do you know of any credible explanation by the authorities for how that happened? This is going to be the same.

 

[BigMela2onin]

I prefer the investigators to determine the cause instead of rushing to conclusions.

Doesn't matter, if it was an accident then the cause was lax safety standards. If it was sabotage then the cause was lax security. Either way there was a deficiency in some field. Yet these deficiencies never get fixed due to a culture of denial and unaccountability.

 

[Kyussis]

The problem with the IR is that there will always be an absence of information, or an abundance of misinformation.

One year has passed since our President's helicopter crashed. Do you know of any credible explanation by the authorities for how that happened? This is going to be the same.

I fully blame Pezeshkian's Government for not releasing information in regards to that investigation!

 

[Kyussis]

Doesn't matter, if it was an accident then the cause was lax safety standards. If it was sabotage then the cause was lax security. Either way there was a deficiency in some field. Yet these deficiencies never get fixed due to a culture of denial and unaccountability.

It does matter on who exactly holds responsibility. I Rather the person responsible bare full responsibility than to point a finger towards the one that was actually doing his Job!

 

[Persian Gulf]

I prefer the investigators to determine the cause instead of rushing to conclusions.

which conclusions did I rush to exactly?

 

[Persian Gulf]

take with a pinch of salt, but NYT claims the explosion was caused by the solid fuel recently imported from China

 

[ShapurII]

I fully blame Pezeshkian's Government for not releasing information in regards to that investigation!

Why do you guys always need a scapegoat? Zarif, Pezeshkian, Rohani, Khatami, etc. When will you acknowledge that it is the entirety of the system that has failed and is becoming more and more incompetent each day?

Was Pezeshkian responsible for Raeesi's flight safety and security? Who manipulated the election by creating Ghalibaf vs. Jalili polarity to divide the conservatives and pave the way for Pezeshkian's presidency?

And what if it was Israeli sabotage? Do you think Pezeshkian should release that type of highly sensitive, confidential information? Do you think the IR will declare war on Israel to take revenge for the long list of things they have done?

I am not a fan of Pezeshkian, or the reformists, but it is the whole system that is failing, not just one or two reformist politicians.

 

[ShapurII]

take with a pinch of salt, but NYT claims the explosion was caused by the solid fuel recently imported from China

The yellow cloud could be an indication of Sodium. So, there's at least some weak evidence that it could be Sodium Perchlorate. However, it's just a theory and there are other elements that can be responsible for the yellow cloud as well.

 

[Kyussis]

which conclusions did I rush to exactly?

"this is a tragedy and yet another incompetent failure

but at least it is good practice on dealing with large explosions of explosive material"

Do you know if it was an accident or if it was Sabotage. If it was sabotage, do you know the method used to determine that reasonable "competence" would be enough to foil the saboteurs?

 

[Kyussis]

Why do you guys always need a scapegoat? Zarif, Pezeshkian, Rohani, Khatami, etc. When will you acknowledge that it is the entirety of the system that has failed and is becoming more and more incompetent each day?

Was Pezeshkian responsible for Raeesi's flight safety and security? Who manipulated the election by creating Ghalibaf vs. Jalili polarity to divide the conservatives and pave the way for Pezeshkian's presidency?

And what if it was Israeli sabotage? Do you think Pezeshkian should release that type of highly sensitive, confidential information? Do you think the IR will declare war on Israel to take revenge for the long list of things they have done?

I am not a fan of Pezeshkian, or the reformists, but it is the whole system that is failing, not just one or two reformist politicians.

Because it is the Government's responsibility. He is the head of the Government. I know you like to blame Khamenei and Sepah and anyone else except for those who's job it is to actually carry out an investigation of that nature!

 

[Persian Gulf]

"this is a tragedy and yet another incompetent failure

but at least it is good practice on dealing with large explosions of explosive material"

Do you know if it was an accident or if it was Sabotage. If it was sabotage, do you know the method used to determine that reasonable "competence" would be enough to foil the saboteurs?

you are saying there is no level of competence that can stop this sabotage

quite ironic after Araghchi put out his tweet a few days ago about Iranian security forces being on full alert