Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Hack-Hook]

take with a pinch of salt, but NYT claims the explosion was caused by the solid fuel recently imported from China

i don't knew how that work but i doubt military materials get stock in customs.
also correct me if im wrong the footage showed a fire started in one container and then it explode, don't solid fuel in case of fire just burn and usually don't explode like high explosives?

 

[OldTwilight]

The problem is that no one will be held responsible and so these types of incidents will keep occurring.

In sacred regime , every agent is sacred as well ... you can not have a sacred whole while its parts are not holy .

 

[Khansaheeb]

It's from fars news .


The explosion seem happened in storage facilities not port itself

World needs to take Zio terrorists seriously

 

[Persian Gulf]

including Bushehr ?

even if he is bluffing, the fact he feels confident threatening this shows how badly IRI has failed to establish any form of deterrence

ultimately Iran needs nuclear weapons to secure our existence. whatever the cost. nothing else will suffice. but Khamenei is unlikely to approve this and the military leaders haven't given him good options either.

 

[Garcia Sea]

Will a helicopter carrying Kim Jong Un crash in North Korea?
Will generals meet one inexplicable death after another?
Will a ship suddenly explode and burst into flames?
Will a massive explosion occur at a port?
None of these are likely, because the U.S. fears getting involved with North Korea.

The Iranian government, far from intimidating its enemies, has emboldened them to believe that Iran will not retaliate no matter what it does.
That’s why Iran will continue to see a series of "mysterious explosions," officials will meet inexplicable deaths one after another, and those who survive will only be desperate to appease Israel and the U.S.

What’s astonishing is that even in this forum, there are people who believe it’s all just a series of accidents.

 

[ShapurII]

ultimately Iran needs nuclear weapons to secure our existence. whatever the cost. nothing else will suffice. but Khamenei is unlikely to approve this and the military leaders haven't given him good options either.

We need to get rid of the Mullahs way more than we need nuclear deterrence now.
I believe a soft coup is being executed inside Iran as we speak. It's already started, long before the assassination of Raeesi. However, it is not exactly the kind of coup that the country needs to be back on track. In fact, it's most likely the opposite of what it should be.

 

[vmro]

I believe a soft coup is being executed inside Iran as we speak. It's already started, long before the assassination of Raeesi. However, it is not exactly the kind of coup that the country needs to be back on track. In fact, it's most likely the opposite of what it should be.

Elimination of the president Raeesi has impacted the country beyond expectations, IMHO...first and foremost the difference in approach and direction between him and the actual president... He couldn't be elected without go-ahead by some powerful fraction inside the system, so I also think that soft takeover is going on behind the scenes... but honestly, you shouldn't expect any nuclear-armed product soon... direction here seems to be different from this one...

everything is with own pros and cons in national geopolitical decisions, and those who are most responsible are in a very hard situation... detente is legitimate long-term doctrine, but we have zionist mad dog in the neighborhood, self-destructive and extremely dangerous, wounded and furious, supported by religious fanatics in their own way, evangelists... combination with zero common sense in any way... and they are aware of own decreasing in power and control...

genocide already made it clear that killing is allowed in any quantity, if they serve to their twisted sectarianism and provide protection of godly created entity....

Despite all this, I think that Americans will sabotage any major blow to Iran that will undoubtedly get out of control...fractions inside their secret intelligence services are strongly against war with Iran...

At least, IMHO, this is the opinion of actual president of Iran, worst-case scenario will be avoided... I really hope it will..

 

[Garcia Sea]

To put it plainly, support for an invasion of Iran is a national consensus in the United States.
Even among those critical of Trump, there is absolutely no opposition to the idea of bombing Iran.
The current situation is merely a matter of timing for the commencement of full-scale bombing.
Such inexplicable explosions and assassinations may occur a few more times, as the U.S. seeks to confirm that the Iranian government is incapable of retaliating and has already lost its will to fight.
Bitter incidents will continue while the Iranian people are caught up in the illusion of false negotiations.

One thing is certain: Westerners only understand the language of power.
They have no intention of negotiating with those who lack the courage to fight.
Only when the Iranian government and the Iranian people are resolutely prepared for all-out war will they engage in genuine negotiations.

 

[HAIDER]

including Bushehr ?

even if he is bluffing, the fact he feels confident threatening this shows how badly IRI has failed to establish any form of deterrence

ultimately Iran needs nuclear weapons to secure our existence. whatever the cost. nothing else will suffice. but Khamenei is unlikely to approve this and the military leaders haven't given him good options either.

But when ???????????????????

 

[vmro]

To put it plainly, support for an invasion of Iran is a national consensus in the United States.
Even among those critical of Trump, there is absolutely no opposition to the idea of bombing Iran.
The current situation is merely a matter of timing for the commencement of full-scale bombing.
Such inexplicable explosions and assassinations may occur a few more times, as the U.S. seeks to confirm that the Iranian government is incapable of retaliating and has already lost its will to fight.
Bitter incidents will continue while the Iranian people are caught up in the illusion of false negotiations.

One thing is certain: Westerners only understand the language of power.
They have no intention of negotiating with those who lack the courage to fight.
Only when the Iranian government and the Iranian people are resolutely prepared for all-out war will they engage in genuine negotiations.

Westerners understand only language of power, but power is shape-shifting entity, with fluid language in constant motion...

Power is their language, but they were answered in the same way, despite best efforts and enormous resources, with millions foolish people to die for unknown reasons... Like Ukrainians... power vs power....Iran is no so desperate as you said, neither is concensus in usa about attack on Iran, only if you create opinion based on msm...

My point is that entity is main and only major security issue, not usa, noting lovely about usa politics but they have own agenda, different from zionists....

 

[BigMela2onin]

We need to get rid of the Mullahs way more than we need nuclear deterrence now.
I believe a soft coup is being executed inside Iran as we speak. It's already started, long before the assassination of Raeesi. However, it is not exactly the kind of coup that the country needs to be back on track. In fact, it's most likely the opposite of what it should be.

The problem is that the organized opposition groups are a worse alternative. Pahlavi has no notable accomplishments and there is no indication he has any ability to actually lead a state, I suspect any genuine support for his return is people being nostalgic rather than actually thinking about what a future under him would be like. MEK is a joke and not even worth discussing. Most likely alternative will be neoliberal takeover which will turn Iran into a impoverished resource exporter like 90s Russia. Very sad state of affairs overall.

 

[FUB]

including Bushehr ?

even if he is bluffing, the fact he feels confident threatening this shows how badly IRI has failed to establish any form of deterrence

ultimately Iran needs nuclear weapons to secure our existence. whatever the cost. nothing else will suffice. but Khamenei is unlikely to approve this and the military leaders haven't given him good options either.

 

[natrix]

including Bushehr ?

even if he is bluffing, the fact he feels confident threatening this shows how badly IRI has failed to establish any form of deterrence

ultimately Iran needs nuclear weapons to secure our existence. whatever the cost. nothing else will suffice. but Khamenei is unlikely to approve this and the military leaders haven't given him good options either.

The Americans haven't been able to have the success they wanted even against the Houthis so i doubt they'd be able to reach Irans nuclear facilites. Bibi just trying to stir things up while trump is trying to negotiate with them

 

[ShapurII]

Elimination of the president Raeesi has impacted the country beyond expectations, IMHO...first and foremost the difference in approach and direction between him and the actual president... He couldn't be elected without go-ahead by some powerful fraction inside the system, so I also think that soft takeover is going on behind the scenes... but honestly, you shouldn't expect any nuclear-armed product soon... direction here seems to be different from this one...

everything is with own pros and cons in national geopolitical decisions, and those who are most responsible are in a very hard situation... detente is legitimate long-term doctrine, but we have zionist mad dog in the neighborhood, self-destructive and extremely dangerous, wounded and furious, supported by religious fanatics in their own way, evangelists... combination with zero common sense in any way... and they are aware of own decreasing in power and control...

genocide already made it clear that killing is allowed in any quantity, if they serve to their twisted sectarianism and provide protection of godly created entity....

Despite all this, I think that Americans will sabotage any major blow to Iran that will undoubtedly get out of control...fractions inside their secret intelligence services are strongly against war with Iran...

At least, IMHO, this is the opinion of actual president of Iran, worst-case scenario will be avoided... I really hope it will..

What is happening inside Iran cannot be done solely by the Americans. The Russians and even some pan-Turk elements in Iran are involved in what is happening. Pezeshkian became the President through a pan-Turk coup in the system.

The problem is that the organized opposition groups are a worse alternative. Pahlavi has no notable accomplishments and there is no indication he has any ability to actually lead a state, I suspect any genuine support for his return is people being nostalgic rather than actually thinking about what a future under him would be like. MEK is a joke and not even worth discussing. Most likely alternative will be neoliberal takeover which will turn Iran into a impoverished resource exporter like 90s Russia. Very sad state of affairs overall.

Pahlavi is the non-charismatic, secular, Zionist loving version of Khamenei. He might get some things in order, like our relations with the West, but that isn't enough. And the problem is not Pahlavi himself. It is the people around him and the cost of toppling the current regime through a revolution, which is too high. Reformists are even worse than Pahlavi. Very sad state of affairs indeed.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

What is happening inside Iran cannot be done solely by the Americans. The Russians and even some pan-Turk elements in Iran are involved in what is happening. Pezeshkian became the President through a pan-Turk coup in the system.


Pahlavi is the non-charismatic, secular, Zionist loving version of Khamenei. He might get some things in order, like our relations with the West, but that isn't enough. And the problem is not Pahlavi himself. It is the people around him and the cost of toppling the current regime through a revolution, which is too high. Reformists are even worse than Pahlavi. Very sad state of affairs indeed.

Pahlavi is a puppet of tom morly, he had the little hat on his head, so tbh reformists are like Amir Kabir compared to Pahlavi.