Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

I would say Chinese are certainly not the right people to you.

The Chinese are a curious people. They have good features and bad features, but one thing is for sure. They're transactional.

 

[nang2]

The Chinese are a curious people. They have good features and bad features, but one thing is for sure. They're transactional.

Yeah, with strangers.

 

[ShapurII]

And more importantly, mere jets are useless anyway. As I said at the very beginning of this conflict, Iran is better off protecting its missile building capability by moving it eastward and hiding it in mountains. It is the only effective card in the short term.

We have been doing both for years already.

 

[ShapurII]

Yeah, with strangers.

Are you saying that the Chinese believe in the concept of friendship too? Who is this concept reserved for? Comrade Kim?

 

[nang2]

Are you saying that the Chinese believe in the concept of friendship too? Who is this concept reserved for? Comrade Kim?

Yes we do, only among friends. And that feeling is mutual. Given the long cultural history, Chinese are proud people, too. It is difficult for us to be friendly with people who feel culturally superior.

By the way, throughout the history, Chinese mostly know Persians via Persian traders as Chinese were not renown in trade. The trade through the Silk Road was primarily carried out through Persians and Sogdians. And traders, as you may know already, are transactional. It is in their profession.

 

[nang2]

We have been doing both for years already.

Maybe you haven't done a good job of it. Otherwise, you would have kept on lobbing missiles at Israel until they offer concessions for ceasefire.

 

[ShapurII]

Yes we do, only among friends. And that feeling is mutual. Given the long cultural history, Chinese are proud people, too. It is difficult for us to be friendly with people who feel culturally superior.

By the way, throughout the history, Chinese mostly know Persians via Persian traders as Chinese were not renown in trade. The trade through the Silk Road was primarily carried out through Persians and Sogdians. And traders, as you may know already, are transactional. It is in their profession.

It must be a very lonely world if your only friend is a person that rules over an open prison where citizens are harshly and violently imprisoned and killed if they try to escape.

Well, it is because of those Persian traders that your country is called China throughout the world today. So, a little respect to those Persian traders is due, I believe.

 

[KingQamaR]

And more importantly, mere jets are useless anyway. As I said at the very beginning of this conflict, Iran is better off protecting its missile building capability by moving it eastward and hiding it in mountains. It is the only effective card in the short term.

Iran needs AWACs and SEAD Assets , not just J-10s one platform isn’t going turn things around. It has to be integrated within a greater system of systems And Im not sure china is willing to take up this mammoth task, . Iran should bolster its air defence capabilities. That is more possible!

 

[nang2]

It must be a very lonely world if your only friend is a person that rules over an open prison where citizens are harshly and violently imprisoned and killed if they try to escape.

Well, it is because of those Persian traders that your country is called China throughout the world today. So, a little respect to those Persian traders is due, I believe.

Of course but they are transactional. So don't make it sound like a dirty word.

 

[Bahrami]

Best summary of the 12 days I have seen so far:

 

[mangekyo]

So 9 dead in one attack in Bet Yam, I don’t recall Israel publishing it. Makes you wonder how many are really dead

 

[ShapurII]

Maybe you haven't done a good job of it. Otherwise, you would have kept on lobbing missiles at Israel until they offer concessions for ceasefire.

Can China with 1.3 billion people fire 100s of MRBMs every day for a long time?
We shot 50 MRBMs per day on average. Do you know any other conflict with such a high number of MRBMs being fired per day?

 

[nang2]

Iran needs AWACs and SEAD Assets , not just J-10s one platform isn’t going turn things around. It has to be integrated within a greater system of systems And Im not sure china is willing to take up this mammoth task, . Iran should bolster its air defence capabilities. That is more possible!

Not gonna happen. These systems are complex and take a long time to master, not to mention the high cost and political sensitiveness. Getting those systems from China in near future is as likely as Iran announces to be a new province of China.

 

[ShapurII]

Of course but they are transactional. So don't make it sound like a dirty word.

I didn't make it sound like a dirty word. It is what it is. Transactional could be both good and bad, depending on the context.

 

[nang2]

Can China with 1.3 billion people fire 100s of MRBMs every day for a long time?
We shot 50 MRBMs per day on average. Do you know any other conflict with such a high number of MRBMs being fired per day?

No because that is not the only deterrence China has. If it were, China could fire much more than that.