Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Khorasan Black Flags]

the answer is 0 and this video is complete nonsense

You are free to have your own thoughts, but you should know that Mr. Naseri is a military expert. I recommend that anyone with enough time watch the video. It's not just about how many aircraft Iran shot down from the zionists; it also contains very insightful, informative and engaging content for those who are interested in military affairs

 

[ShapurII]

the answer is 0 and this video is complete nonsense

I can't believe they're returning to this bullshit after admitting it was just for propaganda.

 

[Persian Gulf]

You can have your own thoughts

But you have to know this: Mr Naseri Is An Military Expert

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can you show us one photo of a downed fighter jet in Iran

 

[BigMela2onin]

@Persian Gulf Any way to change the opening poster for this thread? If I ignore the user spamming videos, this thread disappears since he started it.

 

[Persian Gulf]

@Persian Gulf Any way to change the opening poster for this thread? If I ignore the user spamming videos, this thread disappears since he started it.

I don't think I can change it

 

[ShapurII]

I don't think I can change it

Can't you duplicate the thread but do not copy the first post? lol
Or start a new thread by yourself and merge this one with that?

 

[ToddE]

There are countries whose interests align, and countries whose interests conflict with each other. Usually countries with aligned interests act together, particularly when there's a stronger opponent bloc, i.e. a common enemy. This has never been the case with Russia and Iran.

Please explain to me how Christian White Eurasian Russia's interest align with Oil/Gas competitor and historical opponent Muslim Middle eastern Iran ? If you do not know Russo-Iranian history I can repeat it for you ..... Men Azeri torkem ... milletim yerimiz uchun vurushup ....

I dont know what Iranians expect from Russia and how did they get deluded into calling that country some friend of Iran. It historically clashed with Iranian empires, tried taking huge chunks out of Iran for centuries (last attempt during WWII), was bitter rival of Shahi Iran, took part in Baathist genocide of Iranians. If they are no longer doing all that actions, its a blessing for Iran that one huge enemy is minding its own business at least.

We Iranians because of effeminate IRI culture have become lil complaining bitches. We bitch and moan daily about US, Jews, Russia but won't fix our own weaknesses. Americans, Jews, Russians, Chinese, Arabs, look for their own, good for them, when would Iranians learn to look for ourselves ?

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Please explain to me how Christian White Eurasian Russia's interest align with Oil/Gas competitor and historical opponent Muslim Middle eastern Iran ? If you do not know Russo-Iranian history I can repeat it for you ..... Men Azeri torkem ... milletim yerimiz uchun vurushup ....

I dont know what Iranians expect from Russia and how did they get deluded into calling that country some friend of Iran. It historically clashed with Iranian empires, tried taking huge chunks out of Iran for centuries (last attempt during WWII), was bitter rival of Shahi Iran, took part in Baathist genocide of Iranians. If they are no longer doing all that actions, its a blessing for Iran that one huge enemy is minding its own business at least.

We Iranians because of effeminate IRI culture have become lil complaining bitches. We bitch and moan daily about US, Jews, Russia but won't fix our own weaknesses. Americans, Jews, Russians, Chinese, Arabs, look for their own, good for them, when would Iranians learn to look for ourselves ?

A Big Question
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Why do we still think about the wars between Iran and Russia that happened centuries ago, but we don't think about the crimes committed by the British, Americans, and Anglo-Saxons that happened in recent decades?

 

[ShapurII]

Please explain to me how Christian White Eurasian Russia's interest align with Oil/Gas competitor and historical opponent Muslim Middle eastern Iran ? If you do not know Russo-Iranian history I can repeat it for you ..... Men Azeri torkem ... milletim yerimiz uchun vurushup ....

I dont know what Iranians expect from Russia and how did they get deluded into calling that country some friend of Iran. It historically clashed with Iranian empires, tried taking huge chunks out of Iran for centuries (last attempt during WWII), was bitter rival of Shahi Iran, took part in Baathist genocide of Iranians. If they are no longer doing all that actions, its a blessing for Iran that one huge enemy is minding its own business at least.

We Iranians because of effeminate IRI culture have become lil complaining bitches. We bitch and moan daily about US, Jews, Russia but won't fix our own weaknesses. Americans, Jews, Russians, Chinese, Arabs, look for their own, good for them, when would Iranians learn to look for ourselves ?

You mean besides the fact that NATO has been encircling Russia for the last couple of decades? Besides the fact that Russia is an isolated country that nobody wants to trade with it except for a handful of countries like Iran, North Korea, India and some impoverished countries in Africa and Latin America? Again, besides the fact that other than Iran, nobody is left that gives Russia some sort of relevance in today's international politics? Besides the fact that Russia has been eyeing Iran's access to warm waters for centuries and now it has been given this opportunity through North-South Corridor?

Saddam's Iraq was toppled. Assad's Syria was toppled. Ghaddafi's Libya is gone. Maduro in Venezuela is already in talks with the Americans to peacefully hand over power to somebody else. Russia has never been this irrelevant in world politics. It is an isolated pariah state. North Korea is a sad joke where people cannot even have two meals per day and it's already a Chinese controlled state and doesn't need Russia. Iran is the only country that gives them some sort of relevance in today's world.

I expect nothing from Russia but animosity. We have been enemies for centuries and they have proved times and times again in the last 3 decades that nothing has changed and they still see Iran as an enemy that needs to be weakened. If it were up to me, I would give unconditional support to Ukraine like many countries are doing, such as Turkey and Israel. Russia can do nothing but to watch that silently and suck up to these countries. Ukraine has every right to self defense in my opinion, and I say that as a person that absolutely hates that Zelensky clown.

If anything, the other Slavs (Ukrainians, Belarusians, Croats and Poles) have had better relations with us than Russians. I would happily help Poland and Ukraine provoke Russia endlessly if it were up to me.

And please do not confuse the Islamic Republic thugs with us Iranians.

 

[Hack-Hook]

A Big Question
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Why do we still think about the wars between Iran and Russia that happened centuries ago, but we don't think about the crimes committed by the British, Americans, and Anglo-Saxons that happened in recent decades?

i don't think irgc general were talking about hundreds of years ago

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

i don't irgc general were talking about hundreds of years ago

I’m talking about Iranian society in general, and I think the reason is that zionists and the west own the media...

 

[ShapurII]

I’m talking about Iranian society in general, and I think the reason is that zionists and the west own the media...

I didn't know our local newspapers were controlled by the Zionists.

 

[ToddE]

You mean besides the fact that NATO has been encircling Russia for the last couple of decades? Besides the fact that Russia is an isolated country that nobody wants to trade with it except for a handful of countries like Iran, North Korea, India and some impoverished countries in Africa and Latin America? Again, besides the fact that other than Iran, nobody is left that gives Russia some sort of relevance in today's international politics?

Saddam's Iraq was toppled. Assad's Syria was toppled. Ghaddafi's Libya is gone. Maduro in Venezuela is already in talks with the Americans to peacefully hand over power to somebody else. Russia has never been this irrelevant in world politics. North Korea is a sad joke where people cannot even have two meals per day and it's already a Chinese controlled state and doesn't need Russia. Iran is the only country that gives them some sort of relevance in today's world.

What does it all have to do with Iran? Russia can become a hyper power or it can become another Sudan for all I care. Their actions are not affecting Iran expect some diplomatic exploitation during sanctions or fooling Khamenei in Caspian sea. China did same in sanctions. Are we some whore of a nation that were expecting Russian help in defending Iran without them declaring it? You were claiming Russian alignment with Iran. I asked you what are those alignments ?

Russia white
Iran Middle eastern

Russia Christian liberal society
Iran Shia Islamic conservative society

Russia Slav
Iran is Turko-Iranic

Russia's state goal is Russian dominance in Eurasia/Eastern Europe
Iranian State goal is destroying Israel

Russia is Iran's HC market competitor
Iran is Russia's HC market competitor

Russia's biggest trade partner is EU
Irans biggest trade partner is China

Russia supports Zionism, owns Ashkenazis
Iran opposes Zionism

What are Russian and Iranian alignments? please explain

I expect nothing from Russia but animosity. We have been enemies for centuries and they have provided times and times again in the last 3 decades that nothing has changed. If it were up to me, I would give unconditional support to Ukraine like many countries are doing, such as Turkey and Israel. Russia can do nothing but to watch that silently and suck up to these countries. Ukraine has every right to self defense.

If anything, the other Slavs (Ukrainians, Belarusians, Croats and Poles) have had better ties with us than Russians. I would happily help Poland and Ukraine provoke Russia endlessly if it were up to me.

And please do not confuse the Islamic Republic thugs with us Iranians.

You seem to have some personal grudge or irrational problem with Russia which is clouding your judgement. They are neither friends or enemies of Iran right now. If they are exploiting Iran, why is IRI allowing it? Because we have spent 4.5 decades being an irrational state with Islamic Empire utopia, our people have become stupid to the core that instead of fixing our own home, we have started expecting leverages from other. Shah's cuck son cant stop talking about CIA's support that never came to his daddy, IRI cultists cant stop talking about Russia and China, some of our Azeri faigs cant stop talking about Turkic Union ... how about we fix Iran instead of discussing Russia and US and Jews all the time.

 

[ToddE]

A Big Question
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Why do we still think about the wars between Iran and Russia that happened centuries ago, but we don't think about the crimes committed by the British, Americans, and Anglo-Saxons that happened in recent decades?

So why is not IRI severing ties with UK, EU, Turkey, Arabs ?

 

[ShapurII]

What does it all have to do with Iran? Russia can become a hyper power or it can become another Sudan for all I care. Their actions are not affecting Iran expect some diplomatic exploitation during sanctions or fooling Khamenei in Caspian sea. China did same in sanctions. Are we some whore of a nation that were expecting Russian help in defending Iran without them declaring it? You were claiming Russian alignment with Iran. I asked you what are those alignments ?

Russia white
Iran Middle eastern

Russia Christian liberal society
Iran Shia Islamic conservative society

Russia Slav
Iran is Turko-Iranic

Russia's state goal is Russian dominance in Eurasia/Eastern Europe
Iranian State goal is destroying Israel

Russia is Iran's HC market competitor
Iran is Russia's HC market competitor

Russia's biggest trade partner is EU
Irans biggest trade partner is China

Russia supports Zionism, owns Ashkenazis
Iran opposes Zionism

What are Russian and Iranian alignments? please explain

Read my post again. I don't get why the main point of it goes over your head every time.
Even when Russia needs Iran to stay relevant, they're doing their best to weaken Iran. That just shows the depth of animosity between our nations.

Russia at this moment has too many interests that align with Iran. If anybody has some sort of personal grudge against the other one that is clouding their judgement, it applies to Russians against Iranians. I can't care less about Russia or Russians either way. In fact, three years ago I supported Russia in the war out of foolishness, but Russia's support for Israel during the Israel-Iran war was the final nail in the coffin for me.

You seem to have some personal grudge or irrational problem with Russia which is clouding your judgement. They are neither friends or enemies of Iran right now. If they are exploiting Iran, why is IRI allowing it? Because we have spent 4.5 decades being an irrational state with Islamic Empire utopia, our people have become stupid to the core that instead of fixing our own home, we have started expecting leverages from other. Shah's cuck son cant stop talking about CIA's support that never came to his daddy, IRI cultists cant stop talking about Russia and China, some of our Azeri faigs cant stop talking about Turkic Union ... how about we fix Iran instead of discussing Russia and US and Jews all the time.

No, I think it is you whose judgement has been clouded by your ideas about the role that Iran plays in the world.

Iran is a nobody that should stay low. Iranians do not want to fight Zionism. Your average Iranian on the streets of Tehran cannot care less about Zionism as long as the economic situation of Iran gets back to what it was like 20 years ago. Your average Iranian does not want Iran to be a super power either. Just a decent country with a decent standard of living. As I said, most people do not want even that much. Just to return to a few decades ago lol

As for Russia, they are absolutely our enemies. They have been our enemies for centuries and nothing has changed. The Islamic Republic is allowing it because Khamenei is a Russian agent and Khamenei is being kept in power by the Russians and the Chinese. Iranians of course cannot change this because the system is oppressive and undemocratic.

Azeri separatism in Iran is a legacy of the Russian invasion of Iran in World War II and the spread of communist ideology. Another reason why Russia is our historic enemy.