Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

Why are you making arguments for Israel while denying Iran fought Israel with active backing of a few NATO and arab countries ?

I am not making arguments for Israel, I am assessing the facts. And I didn't "deny" anything.

If Israel fought Iran alone, Iran would've damaged Israel alot more, and even with all the external suooort Israel still agreed to a quick ceasefire...you dont ot seem to be judging Iran's war performance on a "apples to apples and oranges to oranges "basis.

sorry that there is no affirmative action in the field of war

 

[Bharatah]

As I had already announced here, "SNAPBACK" would not be accepted by most countries in the world, beyond Russia and China:

World Stands with Iran As Isolated Powers Defy Reality​

“At the recent NAM Ministerial Summit in Kampala, more than 120 nations joined Iran in recognizing reality: UN Security Council Resolution 2231 expires tomorrow 18 October, thereby terminating all past UNSC restrictions against Iran and removing Iran from the Security Council's agenda,” Araqchi said in a post on his X account on Friday night.

“As an NPT signatory, Iran will remain bound solely to its rights and obligations under the Treaty. This includes no limits whatsoever on the scale of its nuclear program, and cooperation with the IAEA only within the framework of the Comprehensive Safeguards Agreement and in line with the recent legislation adopted by the Iranian Parliament,” he said.

“The unlawful measures pursued by a handful of isolated governments have been rejected by a vast majority of nations. Those who insist on distorting reality will only further isolate themselves with their current path,” the Iranian foreign minister stated.

“Iran’s sovereign rights are neither negotiable nor subject to political pressure. The rule of law — not coercion — must prevail,” Araqchi underscored.

 

[Persian Gulf]

As I had already announced here, "SNAPBACK" would not be accepted by most countries in the world, besides Russia and China:

World Stands with Iran As Isolated Powers Defy Reality​

“At the recent NAM Ministerial Summit in Kampala, more than 120 nations joined Iran in recognizing reality: UN Security Council Resolution 2231 expires tomorrow 18 October, thereby terminating all past UNSC restrictions against Iran and removing Iran from the Security Council's agenda,” Araqchi said in a post on his X account on Friday night.

“As an NPT signatory, Iran will remain bound solely to its rights and obligations under the Treaty. This includes no limits whatsoever on the scale of its nuclear program, and cooperation with the IAEA only within the framework of the Comprehensive Safeguards Agreement and in line with the recent legislation adopted by the Iranian Parliament,” he said.

“The unlawful measures pursued by a handful of isolated governments have been rejected by a vast majority of nations. Those who insist on distorting reality will only further isolate themselves with their current path,” the Iranian foreign minister stated.

“Iran’s sovereign rights are neither negotiable nor subject to political pressure. The rule of law — not coercion — must prevail,” Araqchi underscored.

lets see how many of those countries buy Iranian oil

 

[Bharatah]

lets see how many of those countries buy Iranian oil

Who buys oil or not doesn't matter here; what matters is that they've already said(120 countries + russia + china + others countries) they won't comply with any resolution. If they were to follow the resolution, no one would be able to have any contact with Iran. However, much of the world has already rejected the resolution because it's based on a legal impossibility. Iran doesn't have inspections from the nuclear agency and now has a 100% clandestine nuclear program, which extends to other countries with which Iran has contact.

There is no record in human history of anything like this since the creation of the UN in 1948.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I didn't fact check it, but I read the ship carrying Iranian gas has sunk, and speculation is that it was hit by an American submarine.

of course, IR denied the ship was Iranian (we know only the cargo was Iranian and international shipping is very complex).

 

[mangekyo]

Even when Russia needs Iran to stay relevant, they're doing their best to weaken Iran. That just shows the depth of animosity between our nations.

Did you consider it might have something to do with Russia being hugely pro Israel and pro Zionist, meanwhile Iran is threatening to destroy Zionism and Israel?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Who buys oil or not doesn't matter here; what matters is that they've already said(120 countries + russia + china + others countries) they won't comply with any resolution. If they were to follow the resolution, no one would be able to have any contact with Iran. However, much of the world has already rejected the resolution because it's based on a legal impossibility. Iran doesn't have inspections from the nuclear agency and now has a 100% clandestine nuclear program, which extends to other countries with which Iran has contact.

There is no record in human history of anything like this since the creation of the UN in 1948.

what they say and what they do is different

the US has ignored many UNSC resolutions against Israel. this may be the first time we have such a major split but unless these countries are willing to actually resist the US interpretation and import oil from Iran (except for China) then it has no practical benefit

 

[ToddE]

You're right, it's not Russia's fault.......let's say who's fault it is. The old man bears responsibility for this gigantic policy failure. No one else!

IRI failed because Iranian society failed and religious zealots took over. Russia, US, China, Jews did not force Iranians to take to the streets to support Marxists and Mullahs.

 

[Bharatah]

I didn't fact check it, but I read the ship carrying Iranian gas has sunk, and speculation is that it was hit by an American submarine.

of course, IR denied the ship was Iranian (we know only the cargo was Iranian and international shipping is very complex).

Classical Zionist Fake news.

 

[ToddE]

I wasn't surprised, even recently Press TV made an entire article about an imaginary Khorramshahr-5 missile that some random person on twitter made up

Its definitely the government policy to peddle these made up "boosting" news on state media. What they do not understand is that these things make them look like a clown.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Classical Zionist Fake news.

which part?

 

[Bharatah]

I'm posting this not to pick sides in the Russia argument....although I believe Russians are actively engaged in double dealings....
But I think you're both right, Russia is an unreliable ally, probably of the worst kind, and we had leadership failures that not only didn't address this, or see this, but they inadvertently helped them in their task.

Fake news again.

 

[Bharatah]

which part?

There is no ship carrying Iranian gas that has been "sunk", there is no record.

At the same time this fake news came out, another one came out claiming the Houthis were shooting down several ships (which they had promised to stop if the attacks on Gaza stopped)... The Houthis reported that they did not attack any ships.

Everything being posted on this forum is Jewish-Zionist fake news, with no evidence, sources, or anything. It's all Jewish-Zionist narrative, not only about Iran but also about many other topics.

 

[925boy]

Next time Israel will do worse, they can destroy military bases, weaponary, ports and even economy facilities if Iran hurts Israel alot. Iran needs an airforce or atleast some kind of powerful bomb to protect itself if faced with an invasion or existence threat.

But will Israel have enough Air defense interceptor missiles to actually intercept enough Iranian missiles in the next round? I doubt it!

That's probably why Israel told Russia to tell Iran ot doesn't want war- its a stalling tactic to give US more time to produce enough interceptor missiles, which it most likely cant do in a short time either. Iran is better off going on the offensive asap if possible, because IT IS ALREADY AT WAR, so it might as well choose to fight at a time that works best for it.

Iran really should understand that if it doesn't enter war now and sustain it for wear down its adversaries and use its advantage- large and unmatched ground forces(relative to US and Israel),its odds of winning its next clash is much lower. A losing or winning war will be costly for Iran regardless, but better to win after paying a high cost, esp in lives.

 

[Persian Gulf]

There is no ship carrying Iranian gas that has been "sunk", there is no record.

At the same time this fake news came out, another one came out claiming the Houthis were shooting down several ships (which they had promised to stop if the attacks on Gaza stopped)... The Houthis reported that they did not attack any ships.

Everything being posted on this forum is Jewish-Zionist fake news, with no evidence, sources, or anything. It's all Jewish-Zionist narrative, not only about Iran but also about many other topics.

well I said I didn't check if it was sunk, but a ship carrying Iranian gas was definitely hit

Tanker hit by projectile near Yemen was carrying Iranian cargo, tracker says

An LPG tanker struck by an unknown projectile in the Gulf of Aden on Saturday was carrying an Iranian cargo, TankerTrackers reported, while Iranian state media denied the vessel had links to Iran.

www.iranintl.com

source is Tanker Trackers