Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ToddE]

once again that photo is not from Iran

during the war the army claimed it shot down 3 F-35s and captured one (female) Israeli pilot. but obviously this was incorrect as they never showed the pilot, stopped claiming this, and did not show any wreckage of jets

I could not believe my eyes that Press TV went on with that BS without verifying with officials.

Btw Funniest Reverse Uno IRIAF can pull on IAF will be to claim IAF failed to shoot single IRIAF fighter in air. lol

 

[Persian Gulf]

I could not believe my eyes that Press TV went on with that BS without verifying with officials.

Btw Funniest Reverse Uno IRIAF can pull on IAF will be to claim IAF failed to shoot single IRIAF fighter in air. lol

I wasn't surprised, even recently Press TV made an entire article about an imaginary Khorramshahr-5 missile that some random person on twitter made up

 

[kastor ville]

I'm posting this not to pick sides in the Russia argument....although I believe Russians are actively engaged in double dealings....
But I think you're both right, Russia is an unreliable ally, probably of the worst kind, and we had leadership failures that not only didn't address this, or see this, but they inadvertently helped them in their task.

 

[kastor ville]

Explain the following:

IRI is running at 1/10th of projected GDP because of sanctions that came after Ahmadinejad opened his mouth against Israel, how is that Russia's fault?

IRI killed thousands of its citizens over Hejab, over political disagreements, over fraudulent elections, how is that Russia's fault?

IRI decided to irrationally take on global Anglo-American Zios/Jews without creating means to fight them, How is that Russia's fault?

IRI made 54% of STEM grads run away from Iran due to socio-economic collapse, how is that Russia's fault?

US+EU killed killed soleimani, imposed crippling sanctions, bombed nuclear sites, how is that Russia's fault?

Israel killed 1000 Iranians, how is that Russia's fault?

IRI gave 500+ billion USD to Arab Militias, how is that Russia's fault?

Explain all of these and we will discuss more?



For the third time I am asking you what are those aligned interests? What interests are aligned between a Christian White Slav Eurasian nation and a Shia Islamic Turko-Iranic Middle Eastern Nation that do not even share borders between eachother?



Not my fault if your parents raised to loathe your own self. I am raised differently.



I am more anti IRI than you can imagine + I know Iranian history, genetics, military details more than all this forum combined so spare me the lecture on Iranians. I am the first person and last on this forum to have pointed out that Intra-semite conflict between Zio Israel and Sunni Arabs has nothing to do with Shia Iran. Been saying that for last 2 decades on Iranian military forums. Similarly Russo-European shit fest has nothing to do with Iran. To me Russia = US = EU = PGCC = China because there are no friends and enemies in International Relations. Some Iranians have become so weak minded and self hating that they automatically assume that because Ayatollah shouts at west all the time so Russia and China are automatically Iranian partners/defenders by default. Thats now how the world works. IRI is responsible for defence of Iran, Russia is not.



Keep on shouting at clouds but they won't care. IRI's effeminate culture has created a crop of Iranians who would 24/7 bark at other nations be it US, Russia, EU, Jews, Arabs instead of seeing problem at home. Revolution happened because of problems in Iranian society, Iranian GDP shrinked because Ayatollahs induced sanctions upon Iran by meaningless rhetoric against Israel, Iranian military deterence got shot down to shit because Ayatollahs wasted 500+ billion on useless arab militias. China, Russia are not responsible for Iranian downfall, Iranians are responsible for Iranian downfall. Do not be the whore, complaining to me which of your clients/pimps beat you hardest, I am telling you to not be the whore at first place so nobody beats you up.

You're right, it's not Russia's fault.......let's say who's fault it is. The old man bears responsibility for this gigantic policy failure. No one else!

 

[OldTwilight]

Look like USA attacked Oil Tanker which carried Iran fossile energy ... and some guys are bashing at Russia and China , they are acting like reformists solders ...

we should have nukes .

 

[Persian Gulf]

Look like USA attacked Oil Tanker which carried Iran fossile energy ... and some guys are bashing at Russia and China , they are acting like reformists solders ...

we should have nukes .

I was about to post about this

it happened south of Yemen and Houthis said it wasn't them

Trump yesterday hinted that lots of covert activity was happening behind the scenes (he was asked about Venezuela, but the same probably applies to Iran)

 

[OldTwilight]

I was about to post about this

it happened south of Yemen and Houthis said it wasn't them

Trump yesterday hinted that lots of covert activity was happening behind the scenes (he was asked about Venezuela, but the same probably applies to Iran)

we are going to lose 3500 years old country because some 90 years old guy want to prove he is saint and wont change his holy order ( fatwa ). The sad thing that people who don't believe him and mock him left and right , are supporting him on his useless fatwa ...

 

[BigMela2onin]

US called another IR bluff, now what will IR do? If you go by its track record, nothing.

 

[Immortals]

Look like USA attacked Oil Tanker which carried Iran fossile energy ... and some guys are bashing at Russia and China , they are acting like reformists solders ...

we should have nukes .

And what were you going to do differently in this scenario if you had nukes? Were you gonna nuke Tel Aviv in response? America?

Nukes are useless unless it’s a Berlin 1945 moment. If the enemy knows you won’t use nukes until last resort then they can push all your buttons.

Russia has THOUSANDS of nukes. Has it stopped Turkey from supplying drones that kill Russian soldiers? Has it stopped the U.S. from supplying missiles and drones that hit Russia territories? Has it stopped NATO from supplying tens of billions of dollars to kill Russian soldiers and inflict damage on Russia soil? Has it stopped the West from pressuring countries to stop buying Russian oil? Have nukes helped North Korea escape sanctions, poverty, and normalization with the world?

If nukes haven’t helped deter the west in Ukraine for Russia and hasn’t helped North Korea turn its economic fortunes around, what makes you think it will help this incompetent led Iran change its fortunes?

Until the day Iran normalizes relations with Israel it will be under threat, under sanctions, and suffering. No amount of nukes or fighter jets or wonder weapons will change that.

It is as simple as that.

 

[OldTwilight]

And what were you going to do differently in this scenario if you had nukes? Were you gonna nuke Tel Aviv in response? America?

Nukes are useless unless it’s a Berlin 1945 moment. If the enemy knows you won’t use nukes until last resort then they can push all your buttons.

Russia has THOUSANDS of nukes. Has it stopped Turkey from supplying drones that kill Russian soldiers? Has it stopped the U.S. from supplying missiles and drones that hit Russia territories? Has it stopped NATO from supplying tens of billions of dollars to kill Russian soldiers and inflict damage on Russia soil? Has it stopped the West from pressuring countries to stop buying Russian oil? Have nukes helped North Korea escape sanctions, poverty, and normalization with the world?

If nukes haven’t helped deter the west in Ukraine for Russia and hasn’t helped North Korea turn its economic fortunes around, what makes you think it will help this incompetent led Iran change its fortunes?

Until the day Iran normalizes relations with Israel it will be under threat, under sanctions, and suffering. No amount of nukes or fighter jets or wonder weapons will change that.

It is as simple as that.

Another west worshiping agent , the nukes just let you do same reaction without fearing your infrastructure , ports , military base , cities get tactical nukes / strategical nukes in return ...

just look at North Korea , who dare to attack its ships !?

 

[925boy]

so we should be happy we hit Tel Aviv a few times and killed 30 Israelis even though they hit militarily important targets throughout Iran with ease and precision and killed > 1000 Iranians ?


which country gets attacked, gets 30+ senior commanders and nuclear scientists killed in a few hours, >1000 civilians killed, threatens to raze Tel Aviv and Haifa to the ground, then accepts a ceasefire within 12 days? ...ever?

Why are you making arguments for Israel while denying Iran fought Israel with active backing of a few NATO and arab countries ?
Its the same thing with Russia Urkaine war- Russia isn't fighting only Unraine but a coalition of countries.

If Israel fought Iran alone, Iran would've damaged Israel alot more, and even with all the external suooort Israel still agreed to a quick ceasefire...you dont ot seem to be judging Iran's war performance on a "apples to apples and oranges to oranges "basis. Iran didn't perform great, but Iran seems to have damaged Israel enogh that you can hear it and US ache in pain from receiving damage they never expected Israel would take. 2nd of all who told u only 30 Israelis fied? Stop being so naive-if u dont have full facts, cuz Israeli censorship, then be more cautious in assertive statements that are essentially pro Israel.

 

[925boy]

it's weird because Shamkhani is one of the most senior advisors to Khamenei

so you would think if Shamkhani supported building the bomb, Khamenei might be inclined to listen

If Shamkhani was the best and wisest decision maker for Iran, he would've been the SL. The boss is the boss for good reason/s.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Bharatah]

The story of the oil tanker destruction is yet another fake news story. Trump and the Jewish-Zionist elite have tripled their fake news in recent months (as I had already announced would happen). Israel is paying $7,000 for fake news posts for Israel, and racist and Islamophobic content has skyrocketed(Muslims are a minority in the West, but in fake news, Muslims become the majority in the US, Canada, and Europe). "Victories" for Zionism and "defeats" for its enemies are being fabricated. Along with this, the Mossad deploys "psychological warfare" tactics, announcing that a bigger war is coming, that it will do this and that, but this is part of a Jewish-Zionist disinformation campaign.

A war against Iran is at least 30 years long (and in this example, I'm counting on the iranian government falling; without the government falling, it's 50 years of war). In Vietnam, the US easily overthrew the Vietnamese government, and years later, US was expelled.