Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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kastor ville
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Good luck with that.....maybe they'll use Jewish black magic. Let's list who they're talking about....1. Iran, 2. Iran, 3. Iran.....4. Lebanon.
And Iran is not going to just sit around while they do that.....now we know they have no chance of blocking all the missiles. Now we know how afraid they are of mass destruction on their cities and infrastructure. Now we know how they will attack. So, let's show these monkeys were not Hezbollah, Syria or Yemen.
tsunset
The Legend
I hope IRGCAF will protect the western bases and avoid getting the entrances stuck at all costs
If the western bases entrances survives and are still operable after the first 24hrs, IRGCAF can achieve the thousand missile launched world record on Israel
If the western bases entrances survives and are still operable after the first 24hrs, IRGCAF can achieve the thousand missile launched world record on Israel
ResurgentIran2
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This really is not show of strength. Its a sign of weakness and unsustainability of that regime.
Societes and states that become so radicalized and militarized are doomed, and eventually implodes. There is historical precedence for that.
But yes, Iran should take it VERY seriously and prepare accordingly. The only way forward is to increase your own military power and make the punitive measures and costs unimaginable. Thats the only way to create some level of deterrence.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
Iran's own military budget is set to increase to $46 billion next year
but the US also receives a significant amount of military aid from the USA, of course
the top priority is obviously air force but this tweet is a good summary of some of the basic shortcomings of the IRGC-ASF missile force (not even including lack of accuracy sufficient for tactical operations):
ResurgentIran2
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Well then it means Iran is taking things seriously.
But we should be clear. We are not up against "israel". Israel is an extension of western imperialism and neocolonialism. Thats what Iran has spent the last two decades preparing for. A war against the collective west, in case of an all out war.
Otherwise the state of israel (if it had to carry its own weight), could be compared to a flee that barely can scratch an elephants ass.
vizier
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Albms that collapsed the entrances of the mountain bases can be theoretically shot down by advanced sam systems but it cannot be relied upon. You take precaution by thinking about the worst case scenario and in this case the best case scenario of hitting the albms before reaching their target is very low as well. Mountain bases are more secure than open airbases against an albm attack but their entrances and ventilation shafts are very vulnurable. Most possibly the entrances will be destroyed-collapsed and unusable again.
In that case some extra uncomplete tunnels that extend outside of the mountain can be prepared. The tunnels can be opened outside by small explosives from inside or excavator vehicles inside the mountain. Once opened TELs will launch their salvo against the target and return back immediately. The gate will be detected by satellites after it is opened and will be destoryed. So several tunnels need to be prepared from the mountain to keep the fight ongoing.
Ventilation shafts are another problem. They should be zigzag shaped with many corners inside. A bomb toss will smash inside the rocks and corners instead of volleying diretcly down the shaft like what was happened in Fordow base.
Gates facing directly towards the target in this case south and west are more prone to ballistic trajectory attacks. Main gates of a mountain base should look away from the enemy ballistic missile attack trajectory like east and north(risky if there is possibility from an attack from the north) at the opposite side of the mountain. It will be more difficult to get a direct hit with a ballistic missile and collapse the main gate. This is less reliable than emergency tunnels with some tweaks and angles the gate can still be hit but it may be necessary for a mountain airbase for planes that cannot use tunnels. They can use other options like cruise missiles to hit the gates too but it is easier to defend against them.
You can modify helicopters to low cost awacs role to detect low flying f15s in Iraqi airspace and use your airforce too that is another option as well. It will have less range than a normal awacs but it will not require an airbase and can be obtained in numbers and have several 100kms detection range for large albm carriers like f15.
Lately drone awacs are also getting into trend.
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ToddE
Trusted Member
These shortcomings can be overcome in few months, some can be within weeks. I am kinda relieved to see Fattah hypersonic on a mono TEL because it shows that shortcoming has been identified and is being taken into consideration. 1000+ cheap mobile TELs ensure that enemy is either facing the launched missile or wastes its million USD SOW on it, win-win either way.
I am rather more concerned about about virtually having no technology in the world that can defend bases in west against ALBM launches away from Iran. Considering what happened at Tabriz FAB, it will be foolish to have SU-35S, MIG-29M upfront in open in future. Aircrafts should be either in hardened bunkers or underground bases. Better will be IRGCASF developing such lethal strike capability that for 1 of our aircraft we destroy 2 of theirs in their bases. We have seen that Israel respect deterence. I see no other solution even if we create layers of Majid SHORAD and HIMAD layers of S-300PMU2, Khordad-3/15, Bavar-373 ... IAF's ALBM are lofted trajectory separating MaRVed hypersonic missiles. They just cant be stopped by HIMADs. They also have low RCS micro ALCMs. Its a mind puzzle literally.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
a bit dramatic but hard to disagree
Navid09
Registered Member
What increase is this year on year?
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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PakAl
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925boy
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How do u know Israel isn't also "taking a year to rebuild"?? Israel is also taking a year to rebuild many of its damaged facilities so why call Iran taking time rebuild a tactical success for Israel but Israel taking time(WHILE HIDING IT ALSO)to rebuild not a tactical success for Iran?
Hassan Al-Somal
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Iranian Missile Penetrates the Heart of Tel Aviv's Vital Centers
Israel's Attorney General says: No matter how strong Israel's air defense is, that defense is not impenetrable: Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, and Iran have all succeeded in damaging vital sites at certain points in the war.
