Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

last time Israel had full control pf the Iranian airspace. What exactly is making the Iranians here feel so confident when the US enter the conflict?
last time the US achieved none of its objectives in Yemen and lost 20 MQ-9 drones and 3 F-18 jets before ending its invasion. what exactly is making the pro Americans so confident?
 
last time Israel had full control pf the Iranian airspace. What exactly is making the Iranians here feel so confident when the US enter the conflict?

No such thing happened.
At best, the airspace was contested.
 
last time Israel had full control pf the Iranian airspace. What exactly is making the Iranians here feel so confident when the US enter the conflict?


Israel indeed had some control over Iranian airspace, but they also got hit hard by Iran

By the end , Israel was running out of A.D Interceptors, so any continuation of the war would mean every Iranian missile strike would be a hit

Israel wasn't able to deal with Iran on its own as a result it was desperate for the U.S to get involved, which it did and that ended the war

But Iran is still standing, and it's missile production is up and running as a result give it a few years, then Iran will be able to build more and even better missiles and addressing some of its short comings including A.D and airforce


Thus Israel was desperate to attack Iran but couldn't do it itself

So Trump being a easily led goof, once again fell for the Jew lies and propaganda and has been led like a donkey to try and attack Iran, to at a minimum try to curtail some of its missile and nuclear production capabilities

They don't care about the people or protestors, this is just an excuse to try and protect the cancerous Jew state


It all depends on how Iran responds and how harshly, the military and IRCG is at full power

Invasion is out of the question


So the U.S will try air strikes and the best bet Iran has close the straights of Hormuz and hit every U.S target it can get
 
@Immortals So committing war crimes in Syria, flattening Syrian cities with innocents, instigating a civil war in Yemen, infiltrating Pakistan and destabilizing Balochistan was all for the Palestinian cause?
repeating lies about Iran will bring your time here to an end. stay on topic.
 
The real stupidity is why did Iran want to destroy Israel when no one else on the planet did?

Not russia
Not China
Not Pakistan
Not Egypt
not turkey
Not Saudi arabia
Not UAE
Not Qatar
Not African countries
Not Morocco
Not Iraq
Not Afghanistan
Not Syria (Post Assad)

When so many middle eastern and Asian countries DO NOT care about the Palestinian genocide or cause, why did IR of Iran bet its entire 45 year history on it?

Again, a foreign policy that never was rooted in reason and reality. Iran could simply have chosen not to have relations with Israel and focus instead on its economy and growing stronger and modernizing to one day be powerful enough to have a say.
Iran just wasted all it's resources trying to surround and intimidate Saudi Arabia with it's "Shia Crescent" plan. It was a stupid policy.

I never understood what was the Iranian leadership thinking and why they felt they would succeeded with such a misadventure trying to militarily grab the Citadel of Islam.

As soon as Iraq fell in 2003, the Iranian military and civilian leadership practically went ahead with this policy for nearly 20 years non-stop and did not listen to anybody.

Iran worked so hard propping up so many proxies all around Saudi Arabia and actually bragged about it by making so much noise through it's official channels.

When Iranian leadership finally woke up (after the June 2025 conflict), it was just too late.

Let's hope Iran escapes the same fate that faced Libya and Syria.
 

7 October was the biggest mistake Iran ever made

The Iranian regime thought it signed Israel’s death warrant on 7 October 2023 – in fact, it may have signed its own.
Brendan O'Neill'Neill


Brendan O'Neill

12th January 2026
7 October was the biggest mistake Iran ever made


‘The Zionist regime is melting before the eyes of the world’, gloated Ayatollah Khamenei in the aftermath of Hamas’s pogrom of 7 October 2023. His giddy foretelling of the death of the Jewish nation was echoed across the realm of Israelophobia. Israel’s downfall ‘is a matter of when, not if’, said the Islamo-loons of 5 Pillars. Leftist hotheads agreed that the invasion of Israel by Iran’s proxies sounded the death knell for ‘the Zionist project’.

Fast forward to 2026 and the only thing ‘melting before the eyes of the world’ is the Islamic Republic itself. All the terrible things Khamenei thought would befall Israel have in fact befallen his own regime. Israel has ‘entered a dead-end corridor’ from which it ‘will not be able to escape’, he boasted. Hilariously, he’s probably literally in a corridor right now, or some squalid room, the hatches well and truly battened down as he hides from the implacable fury of the glorious Iranian revolt.

The Islamic Republic thought it had signed Israel’s death warrant on 7 October 2023 – in truth, it may well have signed its own. It increasingly feels like that carnival of racist violence was not only the worst act of harm against the Jews since the Holocaust, but also the worst act of self-harm ever carried out by radical Islamists. One by one, those who authored or assisted it – Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis – have been decimated. And now the benefactor of their barbarism teeters on the brink of oblivion, a victim of its own hubris and hatred.

It’s worth reminding ourselves of the regime’s existential crowing after 7 October. It is a ‘huge blow to Israel’, said Khamenei. The 7 October attack will leave an indelible ‘black mark’ on the ‘Zionist entity’, said Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal. ‘Victory is near’, he said. Defeat was nearer. Every premature dancer on the Jewish State’s grave has watched as their own movements and ideologies have been consumed by the blowback from their vicious push against the Jews.

Hamas has been throttled. Its leaders, including Yahya Sinwar, chief architect of 7 October, are dead. The army of anti-Semites might not be finished but it is depleted. It has suffered ‘considerable losses’, both in terms of manpower and finances, following its ‘degrading’ by the IDF. Hezbollah, if anything, has fared even worse. It rallied to Hamas’s bigoted cause after 7 October, raining missiles down on northern Israel to ‘destroy the Zionist entity’. All it destroyed was itself.

Israel’s assassination of its spiritual leader, Hassan Nasrallah, dealt it a mortal blow. In the same month – September 2024 – Israel took out virtually the entire command structure of Hezbollah with a strike in Beirut. The extraordinary pagers operation, when thousands of pagers simultaneously exploded in the trouser pockets of Hezbollah goons, heaped further humiliation on the militia. Operation Grim Beeper, people called it. Right now, the Lebanese government is in the process of disarming Hezbollah. What a boon for humanity: the Islamic Republic on the ropes while one of its cruellest militias sheepishly gives up its guns.

Then there’s the Iranian regime itself. It’s in serious peril, courtesy of the staggeringly brave men and women rising up against it. These warriors for liberty are the brilliant agents of the mullahs’ strife, proving to the world that even the most ruthless regimes can be taken to task by those they oppress. And yet it was the lethal folly of 7 October, the fascistic vanity of it, that paved the way for the regime’s crisis. The mullahs’ obsessive harrying of the Jewish State pushed the Iranian people’s patience to breaking point.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/...s-x-crackdown-is-an-insult-to-brave-iranians/
The wastefulness of the regime’s war on the Jews infuriated sections of the Iranian populace. As the rial kept falling in value against the US dollar, causing huge hardship, still the regime spunked billions on its anti-Semitic proxies. It’s estimated to have spent $20 billion on Hezbollah and Hamas since 2012. The cost to Iran – and more importantly to the Iranian people – of launching missile strikes on Israel is extraordinary. For example, the events of 1 October 2024, just one day, when the regime fired a barrage of ballistic missiles at Israel, cost Iran an eye-watering $2.3 billion. That’s six times as much as it cost Israel to repel the missiles.

The 12 Day War between Iran and Israel in June last year inflicted huge costs on Iran. In retaliation for Iran’s strikes, Israel struck critical infrastructure across 27 of Iran’s provinces, including airports, oil and gas depots and, of course, nuclear infrastructure. The cost to Iran ran into the billions. Its firing back at Israel cost billions, too. The 12 Day War put ‘enormous strain [on] Iran’s already battered economy’, as one observer described it. And this was a nation where around 80 per cent of the population were ‘fail[ing] to meet the 2,100-calorie daily requirement’.

The mullahs’ cosmic animus for the Jewish State hit the Iranian people hard. The shopkeepers and students of Iran watched their cash lose its value as the theocrats sent billions to the rich racists who lead Hamas and Hezbollah. Little wonder one of the rallying cries on the streets is ‘Neither Gaza nor Lebanon, my life for Iran!’. In short, no more lavish, spiteful warmongering over there – focus instead on here.

After the 12 Day War, Western leftists said Israel’s strikes against Iran would cause the Iranian people to rally behind the mullahs. The opposite happened. Millions were sickened by the profligate hawkishness of the regime and now openly demand that it forget ‘Gaza and Lebanon’. What an extraordinary situation – the privileged keffiyeh classes of the West long for more strikes on the Jewish State, while Iranian rebels say: ‘Enough.’ Our own Islamo-left instinctively wants the Iranian regime to survive, in the catastrophically foolish belief that it is a counterweight to the West, capitalism and Israel. Iranian protesters want it to die, in the searing, true belief that it is a counterweight to their own freedom, and to reason itself.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/01/11/dont-mourn-the-fall-of-the-rules-based-order/
Some on the faux-left say the ‘Zionist lobby’ is behind the revolt in Iran. It is a testament to their own Orientalist bigotry that they would so cavalierly strip the rebels of agency and reduce them to dupes of the Jews. In truth, where 7 October might have pushed to the fore the question of Iran’s future, it is the Iranian people who will answer that question. And millions are saying: ‘No more Islamism, no more theocracy, no more war in Gaza and Lebanon.’ They want Iran to leave behind the Islamofascist experiment and once again take its place among the great civilisations. All good people do.
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Wtf? These are well-documented events. Is there any freedom of speech here?
you don't have freedom of speech to spam lies

Iran didn't flatten anything in Syria and didn't instigate anything in Yemen, it advised Ansarallah not to advance to Sana'a. but these sectarian tropes are off topic.
 

7 October was the biggest mistake Iran ever made

The Iranian regime thought it signed Israel’s death warrant on 7 October 2023 – in fact, it may have signed its own.
Brendan O'Neill'Neill


Brendan O'Neill

12th January 2026
7 October was the biggest mistake Iran ever made


‘The Zionist regime is melting before the eyes of the world’, gloated Ayatollah Khamenei in the aftermath of Hamas’s pogrom of 7 October 2023. His giddy foretelling of the death of the Jewish nation was echoed across the realm of Israelophobia. Israel’s downfall ‘is a matter of when, not if’, said the Islamo-loons of 5 Pillars. Leftist hotheads agreed that the invasion of Israel by Iran’s proxies sounded the death knell for ‘the Zionist project’.

Fast forward to 2026 and the only thing ‘melting before the eyes of the world’ is the Islamic Republic itself. All the terrible things Khamenei thought would befall Israel have in fact befallen his own regime. Israel has ‘entered a dead-end corridor’ from which it ‘will not be able to escape’, he boasted. Hilariously, he’s probably literally in a corridor right now, or some squalid room, the hatches well and truly battened down as he hides from the implacable fury of the glorious Iranian revolt.

The Islamic Republic thought it had signed Israel’s death warrant on 7 October 2023 – in truth, it may well have signed its own. It increasingly feels like that carnival of racist violence was not only the worst act of harm against the Jews since the Holocaust, but also the worst act of self-harm ever carried out by radical Islamists. One by one, those who authored or assisted it – Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis – have been decimated. And now the benefactor of their barbarism teeters on the brink of oblivion, a victim of its own hubris and hatred.

It’s worth reminding ourselves of the regime’s existential crowing after 7 October. It is a ‘huge blow to Israel’, said Khamenei. The 7 October attack will leave an indelible ‘black mark’ on the ‘Zionist entity’, said Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal. ‘Victory is near’, he said. Defeat was nearer. Every premature dancer on the Jewish State’s grave has watched as their own movements and ideologies have been consumed by the blowback from their vicious push against the Jews.

Hamas has been throttled. Its leaders, including Yahya Sinwar, chief architect of 7 October, are dead. The army of anti-Semites might not be finished but it is depleted. It has suffered ‘considerable losses’, both in terms of manpower and finances, following its ‘degrading’ by the IDF. Hezbollah, if anything, has fared even worse. It rallied to Hamas’s bigoted cause after 7 October, raining missiles down on northern Israel to ‘destroy the Zionist entity’. All it destroyed was itself.

Israel’s assassination of its spiritual leader, Hassan Nasrallah, dealt it a mortal blow. In the same month – September 2024 – Israel took out virtually the entire command structure of Hezbollah with a strike in Beirut. The extraordinary pagers operation, when thousands of pagers simultaneously exploded in the trouser pockets of Hezbollah goons, heaped further humiliation on the militia. Operation Grim Beeper, people called it. Right now, the Lebanese government is in the process of disarming Hezbollah. What a boon for humanity: the Islamic Republic on the ropes while one of its cruellest militias sheepishly gives up its guns.

Then there’s the Iranian regime itself. It’s in serious peril, courtesy of the staggeringly brave men and women rising up against it. These warriors for liberty are the brilliant agents of the mullahs’ strife, proving to the world that even the most ruthless regimes can be taken to task by those they oppress. And yet it was the lethal folly of 7 October, the fascistic vanity of it, that paved the way for the regime’s crisis. The mullahs’ obsessive harrying of the Jewish State pushed the Iranian people’s patience to breaking point.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/...s-x-crackdown-is-an-insult-to-brave-iranians/
The wastefulness of the regime’s war on the Jews infuriated sections of the Iranian populace. As the rial kept falling in value against the US dollar, causing huge hardship, still the regime spunked billions on its anti-Semitic proxies. It’s estimated to have spent $20 billion on Hezbollah and Hamas since 2012. The cost to Iran – and more importantly to the Iranian people – of launching missile strikes on Israel is extraordinary. For example, the events of 1 October 2024, just one day, when the regime fired a barrage of ballistic missiles at Israel, cost Iran an eye-watering $2.3 billion. That’s six times as much as it cost Israel to repel the missiles.

The 12 Day War between Iran and Israel in June last year inflicted huge costs on Iran. In retaliation for Iran’s strikes, Israel struck critical infrastructure across 27 of Iran’s provinces, including airports, oil and gas depots and, of course, nuclear infrastructure. The cost to Iran ran into the billions. Its firing back at Israel cost billions, too. The 12 Day War put ‘enormous strain [on] Iran’s already battered economy’, as one observer described it. And this was a nation where around 80 per cent of the population were ‘fail[ing] to meet the 2,100-calorie daily requirement’.

The mullahs’ cosmic animus for the Jewish State hit the Iranian people hard. The shopkeepers and students of Iran watched their cash lose its value as the theocrats sent billions to the rich racists who lead Hamas and Hezbollah. Little wonder one of the rallying cries on the streets is ‘Neither Gaza nor Lebanon, my life for Iran!’. In short, no more lavish, spiteful warmongering over there – focus instead on here.

After the 12 Day War, Western leftists said Israel’s strikes against Iran would cause the Iranian people to rally behind the mullahs. The opposite happened. Millions were sickened by the profligate hawkishness of the regime and now openly demand that it forget ‘Gaza and Lebanon’. What an extraordinary situation – the privileged keffiyeh classes of the West long for more strikes on the Jewish State, while Iranian rebels say: ‘Enough.’ Our own Islamo-left instinctively wants the Iranian regime to survive, in the catastrophically foolish belief that it is a counterweight to the West, capitalism and Israel. Iranian protesters want it to die, in the searing, true belief that it is a counterweight to their own freedom, and to reason itself.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/01/11/dont-mourn-the-fall-of-the-rules-based-order/
Some on the faux-left say the ‘Zionist lobby’ is behind the revolt in Iran. It is a testament to their own Orientalist bigotry that they would so cavalierly strip the rebels of agency and reduce them to dupes of the Jews. In truth, where 7 October might have pushed to the fore the question of Iran’s future, it is the Iranian people who will answer that question. And millions are saying: ‘No more Islamism, no more theocracy, no more war in Gaza and Lebanon.’ They want Iran to leave behind the Islamofascist experiment and once again take its place among the great civilisations. All good people do.
Genocide supporter is back
@Mod
 
I was overruled, admins want him to be able to post here

if he breaks the rules you can report his posts but it is not up to me
His post is off topic and spam.
Warrants a 3,000 year exile....he is free to return after that time when he has paid his dues.
 
For now. But after Iran falls, The focus will turn to bringing freedom in Russia and China. Anyone seen aiding these two countries will be seen as the enemy.

So I can see a future where Pakistan is heavily pressured to drop its military and economic ties to China.

That’s when things will get interesting.

China and Russia can rest easy for now. But the U.S. is coming. Don’t be surprised when you see protests in Russia or China.
For you information, as of December 2025 the US has decided to share the world with Russia and China rather than fight Russia and China

It wants all world powers (US, Russia and China) and regional powers to stay within their own "Spheres of Influence" .
 
The real stupidity is why did Iran want to destroy Israel when no one else on the planet did?

Not russia
Not China
Not Pakistan
Not Egypt
not turkey
Not Saudi arabia
Not UAE
Not Qatar
Not African countries
Not Morocco
Not Iraq
Not Afghanistan
Not Syria (Post Assad)

When so many middle eastern and Asian countries DO NOT care about the Palestinian genocide or cause, why did IR of Iran bet its entire 45 year history on it?

Again, a foreign policy that never was rooted in reason and reality. Iran could simply have chosen not to have relations with Israel and focus instead on its economy and growing stronger and modernizing to one day be powerful enough to have a say.
Exactly. And guess what, most Palestinians are still pro Saudi over Iran. LOL

Iran's leaders are extremely stubborn, ideological and now their ideology has run its course. IDK how they move on from here because they've made so many grave mistakes.

I don't want the Zionists to win, but I hope a secular nationalist Iranian government rises that can stabilize the borders, agree not to destabilize neighboring countries, make a truce with the Israelis and just focus on building Iran.

Look at Malaysia, Indonesia, Pakistan, etc. They are all Muslim countries that do not recognize Israel yet they just focus on their own business instead of going out of their way to provoke the Zionist beast when they do not have the power to stand against them.
 
I was overruled, admins want him to be able to post here

if he breaks the rules you can report his posts but it is not up to me
They've asked me to be careful out of consideration, PG. PM me if you think I'm stepping over the bounds.
 

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