Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[tower9]

For you information, as of December 2025 the US has decided to share the world with Russia and China rather than fight Russia and China

It wants all world powers (US, Russia and China) and regional powers to stay within their own "Spheres of Influence" .

Not really. I think Trump has called a temporary time out on the surface with China and Russia but are working to undermine the other powers stealthily at the same time.

 

[Watandar]

I don‘t know who pisses me off more: the Iranian Shia regime or the exile-Iranians.

Attack is imminent for sure. May God protect Pakistan

Please take your filthy sectarianism elsewhere.

 

[hussain0216]

The real stupidity is why did Iran want to destroy Israel when no one else on the planet did?

Not russia
Not China
Not Pakistan
Not Egypt
not turkey
Not Saudi arabia
Not UAE
Not Qatar
Not African countries
Not Morocco
Not Iraq
Not Afghanistan
Not Syria (Post Assad)

When so many middle eastern and Asian countries DO NOT care about the Palestinian genocide or cause, why did IR of Iran bet its entire 45 year history on it?

Again, a foreign policy that never was rooted in reason and reality. Iran could simply have chosen not to have relations with Israel and focus instead on its economy and growing stronger and modernizing to one day be powerful enough to have a say.

To be fair everyone hates Israel and wants to destroy them

The Jews will be expelled from the middle east, it's just a matter of time

Iran was a revolutionary state, and it had a revolutionary mindset

Other people's hated the Jews even more then the Iranians, but they understood Israel was a U.S and European colonial project


So you could beat the Jews
What you couldn't do AT THIS TIME was best the combined forces of the Jews the Americans and Europeans, and they were waiting it out and letting the Arab and Muslim population grow

Europe is already a shadow of what it once was
The U.S is a empire in decline with 40 trillion in debt and is behaving irrationally and erratically

The Jews cannot match the youth and birth rates of the people around them, eventually the Jews will be expelled


Iran was planning but it was too blunt and did not cover all it ls bases, no excuse for not having a airforce or sufficient A.D for example

 

[German Angst]

With the strategy Iran has been pursuing the last years, what exactly were they expecting would be the end goal? It is so puzzling because I cannot recognize any reasonable objective

 

[Solomon2]

I don't want the Zionists to win, but I hope a secular nationalist Iranian government rises that can stabilize the borders, agree not to destabilize neighboring countries, make a truce with the Israelis and just focus on building Iran.

You understand what's going to happen if the mullahs fall, right? The Arab states' de facto alliance with Israel and the U.S. will weaken or end as they pivot to China instead. China will be the big winner if the mullahs fail and Iran resumes its alignment with Israel.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Not really. I think Trump has called a temporary time out on the surface with China and Russia but are working to undermine the other powers stealthily at the same time.

no, to the contrary, USA is taking out China oil suppliers!

 

[Unknowntruth]

Well Iran is stupid to want to destroy Israel. Israel is here to stay as long as USA supports Israel.

Two state solution for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

You honestly believe Israel wants a 2 state solution?

If you do, I have prime swamp land to sell to you on the cheap.

 

[tower9]

You understand what's going to happen if the mullahs fall, right? The Arab states' de facto alliance with Israel and the U.S. will weaken or end as they pivot to China instead. China will be the big winner if the mullahs fail and Iran resumes its alignment with Israel.

I doubt it. The UAE is already an Israeli puppet state and Saudi Arabia would probably be worried that it would be next and behave, they will probably stop de-dollarizing.

 

[tower9]

With the strategy Iran has been pursuing the last years, what exactly were they expecting would be the end goal? It is so puzzling because I cannot recognize any reasonable objective

Ideological fervor and hubris.

 

[Musings]

They've asked me to be careful out of consideration, PG. PM me if you think I'm stepping over the bounds.

You always do. You cant help yourself. Bye

 

[mangekyo]

Iran just wasted all it's resources trying to surround and intimidate Saudi Arabia with it's "Shia Crescent" plan. It was a stupid policy.

I never understood what was the Iranian leadership thinking and why they felt they would succeeded with such a misadventure trying to militarily grab the Citadel of Islam.

As soon as Iraq fell in 2003, the Iranian military and civilian leadership practically went ahead with this policy for nearly 20 years non-stop and did not listen to anybody.

Iran worked so hard propping up so many proxies all around Saudi Arabia and actually bragged about it by making so much noise through it's official channels.

When Iranian leadership finally woke up (after the June 2025 conflict), it was just too late.

Let's hope Iran escapes the same fate that faced Libya and Syria.

You will never understand unless you let go of searching for sectarian narratives.

 

[hussain0216]

I doubt it. The UAE is already an Israeli puppet state and Saudi Arabia would probably be worried that it would be next and behave, they will probably stop de-dollarizing.

Nothing is going to stop dedollarisation

It's one of the reasons they attacked Venezuela, but no one wants to invest in the oil industry there

All this chaos is panic within the western bloc and U.S and Europe


People keep asking about China
But China has a simple plan, sit back and do nothing except keep rolling as the manufacturing engin of the world

The U.S, Europe and Israel is doing the work for China and the world is pivoting on its own

 

[tower9]

Nothing is going to stop dedollarisation

It's one of the reasons they attacked Venezuela, but no one wants to invest in the oil industry there

All this chaos is panic within the western bloc and U.S and Europe


People keep asking about China
But China has a simple plan, sit back and do nothing except keep rolling as the manufacturing engin of the world

The U.S, Europe and Israel is doing the work for China and the world is pivoting on its own

That's most likely what will happen.

 

[Maea]

So we are witnessing Iran become another Libya/Sirya where Isreal/US can just come in and bomb/kill the leadership and get away with it.

 

[hussain0216]

That's most likely what will happen.

If you look at American politics, it's clown level stuff a genuine WTF moment for the world

You see the evil Israeli and how international law and values were useless to control the apartheid state

You see a ageing Europe who desperately needs migration to sure up it's economy from collapse and at the same time lurching to the right


You see all this crap


And then you see a calm China, just chugging along


What these clowns don't realise is that the world pivoting towards China is inevitable because of what they have done