Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Liquidator]

That would enrage the dearly beloved Saudis and UAE and hence Pakistan wont do anything.

The gutless, spineless gulf Arabs came to Pakistan and "advised" Pakistan to not retaliate and take the hits. It is clear that they visited us on behalf of the Indians.

They wanted us to humilite ourselves just like they've humiliated themselves, standing by as their brothers are eradicated. They cannot fathom dignity, honour and an Ummah. These are ALIEN concepts. Imagine, Greta tried and was willing to put her neck on the line, meanwhile Saudis were twerking to shakira.

I sincerely hope Pakistan establishment realises that the world respects and listens to those that stand up for themselves in dignity.

 

[lightning f57]

If snapback happens, Iran has to ramp up the pressure and have a nuke test ready in short time.

 

[tsunset]

Iran is currently going full agressive on the nuclear question, I'm starting to grow little hopes that i never had before about a possible nuclear device being built in the future

Steps took by Iran since not even a week:

- Moving of enriched uranium into a secret underground, strikeproof site without notice to IAEA (important to note, that site was built before IAEA BoG vote, without noticing IAEA, which was a very smart move)
- More performant, modern centrifuges installed to replace old ones
- Exposing IAEA collaboration with Israel
- And still more measures to be unveiled according to Iran

What I'm hoping for:

- Surprise commando operation and mass arrest of IAEA inspectors inside Iran and transfer of them to courts for judgement, then transfer into public jail to use them as leverage for talks with the U.S and EU. Iran has the right to do so as they directly threaten Iran's integrity.
- Immediate withdrawal from the NPT if UN sanctions are applied
- Keep nuclear ambiguity without testing a device

Iran should go all out against the IAEA right now, without any limit, even if that means breaking international law, this is for Iranian interests

 

[OldTwilight]

khamenei is too blame , he is still playing while he should ordered building nuke 20 years ago

 

[newb3e]

Pakistan is the only country that can help Iran in a meaningful way. In fact Pakistan can ensure that Israel gives up the idea of attacking Iran indefinitely.

or khakis will bow down to their masters and provides air bases to America? we have done it in past so we can do it again now!

 

[ShapurII]

One important piece of the puzzle is still missing: conversion of UF6 gas into uranium metal. We don't know if Iran has already setup a facility to do this or not.
The parliament voted to start this at Natanz after Trump pulled out of the JCPOA, but there's no evidence any work has been done regarding this.

Iran needs to set up facilities to do this conversation in batches in parallel to increase speed.
If we start with 500kg of 60% UF6 by the end of June/early July, we'd get around 330 kg of 90% UF6. The atomic mass of Flourine is 19. So, the ratio of molecular weight of UF6 to U is ~1.5.

Add a couple of weeks for the conversion of UF6 to U, and we will get 220 kg of highly enriched uranium metal by September. Enough for 12 weapons.
Of course, a small percentage of this has to be enriched to +99.5% to absorb neutrons and start the chain, while the rest of the stockpile can be enriched up to 80% or so. 90% is an upper limit for the average percentage of enrichment.

If we assume that the Israeli intelligence about the efficiency of Iran's old design is reliable and we base our analysis on that information, each device would have a yield of 30 kilotons, that would give Iran 360 kilotons of destructive power. Not bad, not good. Anything below 1 megaton is far from enough in today's world. But I believe Iran can and should increase the yield to over 50-70 kilotons, which is doable given Iran's capacity in production of deuterium and tritium.

 

[Kharral]

That would enrage the dearly beloved Saudis and UAE and hence Pakistan wont do anything.

Yes, but we must realise that the GCC & Israel are the same thing. Two sides of the same coin. GCC made their intentions clear in the last episode of India’s blatant aggression against Pakistan.

or khakis will bow down to their masters and provides air bases to America? we have done it in past so we can do it again now!

Khakis have their own Strategic calculus too & they have resisted & sabotaged any attempts against their Strategic goals.
Iran is one such example.
For all their weaknesses & short comings the Khakis have refused to deliver on Iran to the US. Even Zia withstood all the pressures from US to help them against Iran.

 

[newb3e]

Yes, but we must realise that the GCC & Israel are the same thing. Two sides of the same coin. GCC made their intentions clear in the last episode of India’s blatant aggression against Pakistan.



Khakis have their own Strategic calculus too & they have resisted & sabotaged any attempts against their Strategic goals.
Iran is one such example.
For all their weaknesses & short comings the Khakis have refused to deliver on Iran to the US. Even Zia withstood all the pressures from US to help them against Iran.

asim first landed in sauds lap or uaes laps before going to his real daddy amrika! arabs are desperate for Irans destruction and america will do whatever Jews demand...asim is desperate for support he will destroy Pakistans goodwill to have his arse fixed on the throne!

 

[Watandar]

Yes, but we must realise that the GCC & Israel are the same thing. Two sides of the same coin. GCC made their intentions clear in the last episode of India’s blatant aggression against Pakistan.

hmm, what does that make Pakistan ? We have been among the most loyal trained dogs of GCC and Amreeka.

 

[Kharral]

asim first landed in sauds lap or uaes laps before going to his real daddy amrika! arabs are desperate for Irans destruction and america will do whatever Jews demand...asim is desperate for support he will destroy Pakistans goodwill to have his arse fixed on the throne!

Never believe that that the Army Chief is the sole decision maker when it comes to strategic interests of Pakistani establishment. If Pakistan does give in to the GCC/UK>US>Zionist entity’s demands then it wouldn’t be a single guy’s decision.
It ll be the establishment’s decision.

 

[Sultan Baybars]

Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon must form a joint statement about the upcoming Israeli/US agression against Iran.

 

[Kharral]

hmm, what does that make Pakistan ? We have been among the most loyal trained dogs of GCC and Amreeka.

That terminology is often used by Pakistanis to let out their frustrations & at times it seems believable too & more often than not the Establishment pushes out this narrative in the public too, as it suits them & serves their purpose.
Reality however is different, Pakistani establishment to its credit is extremely Khochal & Kunni. This Kunni & Gujji policy has served us pretty well. Long may it continue.

 

[ShapurII]

That terminology is often used by Pakistanis to let out their frustrations & at times it seems believable too & more often than not the Establishment pushes out this narrative in the public too, as it suits them & serves their purpose.
Reality however is different, Pakistani establishment to its credit is extremely Khochal & Kunni. This Kunni & Gujji policy has served us pretty well. Long may it continue.

Kunni? If it means what I think it means, it means fagg*t?

 

[F-22Raptor]

 

[Kharral]

Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon must form a joint statement about the upcoming Israeli/US agression against Iran.

Turkey & Pakistan are the only relevant powers here. Pakistan must carry on with its policy of working in silence, doing what needs doing & not look for taking credit or being loud mouths. This attitude has served us well & long may it continue.

Leave the verbal part to Turkey & at best give out a joint statement.